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[Veteran]

I wasn't so much meaning the Bad Wolf/Torchwood thing as I was all the repeated dialogue.

I can only remember "fantastic" from the first series. This series has too many and too frequent.

[Fyxe]

Obviously, but the rest of the references are more subtle... Did you notice the helicopter call sign at first? Or the "Bad Wolf TV" in "The Long Game", it spray painted on the wall in "Fathers Day", in German on the bomb in The Doctor Dances... If you did I take my hat off to you, but I wasnt that observant first time around until it was pointed out, either by the Doctor in Boom Town, or the various websites

I remember Bad Wolf Tv very well, and I saw it spray painted on another wall in a different episode (and no, not the last one). I don't remember it being in German but I noticed at least two of those more subtle references.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

According to Wikipedia, Satan was a synonym for Sutekh the Destroyer, who was defeated by the Fourth Doctor and trapped in a time tunnel for thousands of years. And the person who voiced Sutekh is apparently the person voicing the Beast in these episodes... Does anyone remember if Sutekh was one of the names the beast said he was known as?

Erm, no. I'm not very up to date with the original old episodes. I wished I'd seen this earlier though. It repeated today on BBC Three. I could have checked if I'd known this information.

[Tekky]

Suteck seems to be very Egyptian, if you look at photos of him. Plus, he is supposedly dead (like thats an obstacle in Doctor Who... How many times did Davros come back from the supposed dead?)

But omg, I never look at the emoticons, and have never noticed this...
Wooo

Has anyone checked out the Doctor Who website this week? Its well scary, the beast looks absolutely terrifying! The Fear Factor (all the kids gave it a 5) says "Children are warned that some adults have found this episode especially frightening. Get ready to hold your parents' hands if they get too scared..." Classic!

[Sety II]

Suteck seems to be very Egyptian, if you look at photos of him. Plus, he is supposedly dead (like thats an obstacle in Doctor Who... How many times did Davros come back from the supposed dead?)

I don't think Sutekh is dead, he was only trapped in a time tunnel by the 4th Doctor. Supposedly longer then his lifespan but yeah........

[Wolf O'Donnell]

It's slightly creepy, I must admit. Would be very scary if I was looking at it in the dark, except I'm not. This Satan-like characters looks very fake and plasticky, though.

[Tekky]

It wouldnt be Doctor Who if he looked real

[Wolf O'Donnell]

I just noticed something when I was going over the screencaps for the last episode. We actually saw an image of the Beast appear.

http://www.gallifrey....php?id=2006-08

It's the seventh image down.

I don't believe I missed that.

Also, I noticed something...

http://www.gallifrey...pguide-dw10.php

See the episode name for the last episode? Doomsday. Perhaps, God *IS* the series buzzword after all.

Edited by Wolf_ODonnell, 10 June 2006 - 10:36 AM.

[Fyxe]

You missed the Beast appearing in the hologram? I thought it was fairly obvious... It was only for a moment, though.

'Doomsday' could mean anything, though...

[Wolf O'Donnell]

You missed the Beast appearing in the hologram? I thought it was fairly obvious... It was only for a moment, though.

Yup, I missed it completely.

[Fyxe]

Well I doubt you missed it *that* time.

[Showsni]

Well, that was good.

Why the long farewell to Jeffereson when they just ignore the other two crew members deaths, though?

[Fyxe]

Cos... The script is never as good as it's cracked up to be.

I didn't expect the beast to be so big. Smart.

[Veteran]

That was quite possibly the best episode of the series so far. I hope the mystique of 'what happens after you get sucked into a black hole' resurfaces with an Ood return sometime.


And at last! Peter Kay episode next week! *glee*

[Fyxe]

Fuck Peter Kay.

[/VGCats reference]

EDIT: Seriously, the next episode looks crap. What's with all the celebrity cash-ins this series? I mean, Peter Kay? Bloody Peter Kay? And that guy from Hustle only has one method of acting.

Fuck Peter Kay!!

Edited by Fyxe, 11 June 2006 - 05:47 PM.

[GJ Skywalker]

What happened on Saturday? I had to go to a BBQ.

[Tekky]

Well, that was good.

Why the long farewell to Jeffereson when they just ignore the other two crew members deaths, though?

Cause the others (apart from Toby) were Redshirts

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Well, it's Saturday again. I'm not sure whether I should really look forward to today's Doctor Who episode. The entire premise seems kinda pathetically conceived.

And is it just me or are the directors and scriptwriters completely full of themselves?

[Tekky]

Meh, it's Doctor Who, it'll be awesome! Apparently there are Autons and Slitheen in tonights episode, it should be good!

Also, have you read the news...

Billie Piper is leaving! I didnt believe it at first when my friends told me, but I read it on the BBC Website so it's def true... Thats well sucky! Completely changing the starring cast after 2 seasons! I'm going to miss her...

[Veteran]

Nah, Billie's run her course.


Regarding tonight's episode, it was bound to happen sooner or later - the first really god awful Doctor Who episode of the 'new generation'.

[Fyxe]

I find it very hard to know which bits to take seriously and which bits are basically it taking the piss out of itself.

Also, next week... A WHOLE SIX YEARS INTO THE FUTURE. ON EARTH. AGAIN. WITH LIVING PICTURES. You know, like bloody PENNY CRAYON.

...It's almost a purely kid's show now, not a family show. Except for the occasional episode that's... Not. Like the Satan episode and the werewolf episode. It's like it has no idea what it's meant to be, and that some writers have completely different ideas from others.

[Tekky]

I dunno, I found tonights episode quite amusing! Was weird like, but a good laugh

[Veteran]

Whilst the whole Earth-centric theme doesn't bother me at all, and that this episode was the first one I didn't like, I agree with Fyxe about the unpredictableness of this second series.

The first was all about developing the characters. Every episode built upon the previous, and all of them lead up to the finale. It was also good in that it revisited previous episode locations or alluded to past events because it made the series one giant plotline.

This series isn't doing that. It is regarding Torchwood, but that's too small a hook. I imagine the series finale will be very good (it's all about Torchwood), but a few of the episodes are made pointless in the overall scheme. Since we know absolutely everything about Rose, Mickey, Jackie, all that's left for this series is introducing the new personality of the new Doctor. And that was accomplished within the Christmas special and New Earth. What's left? Fillers. Random bad guy aliens that reference Torchwood and then meet their end.


Billie leaving will be excellent for the next series as it gives it something stronger to build the series around.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Okay, I got the point... the message behind the episode, but really did they need a 45-minute episode just for that one simplistic message? Surely, they'd covered it in the "Girl in the Fireplace" episode.

My God, it sucked, and I don't like the premise for the next episode either.

No doubt, the writers will find some smug artsy, smarmy psuedo-justification for the next episode that'll make me want to puke my guts out.

[Fyxe]

Not only that, but after the next episode we're already into the two-parter finale. They're gonna hafta pull out something special, because they need to make up for these two episodes (and for that dumb clockwork robots episode, and the anitclimax of the Cybermen).

[Tekky]

Dont judge the episode before you've seen it, it could turn out to be really good...

Of course, it could turn out to be shocking! I watched the Cyberman episode again today (was repeated on BBC 3) and I really enjoyed it, even though it was 2nd time around. Then again, I am a bit of a kid at heart

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Sorry, but after that dismal Peter Kay episode, I'm not feeling very optimistic about this coming Saturday's episode. Hopefully it'll have some creepy-little-child thing going on, but I severely doubt it.

I think they kinda screwed up by having the struggle against Satan so soon. Now that would have made a great finale! The Doctor defeats the Devil!

Edited by Wolf_ODonnell, 20 June 2006 - 07:40 AM.

[Tekky]

Its strange, you guys are the only people I know who didnt like Saturdays episode, everyone else I talk to liked it! Myself included, I thought it was weird, but enjoyable. Ah well, better than us all being Cybermen and the same

[Fyxe]

They're probably people who think Peter Kay's standup is the best standup comedy ever and that Hustle is a deep and thoughtful series.

...The next episode is taking it's premise from bloody PENNY CRAYON for heck's sake. Argh. It's only gonna be worse. Bring back the Daleks instead of 'random alien of the week'.

[Kwicky Koala]

I don't know, those moving pictures actually looked pretty scary. I mean, if I was younger, they're the sort of things that would scare me.

Also, saturdays episode I rather liked, the Hustle guy wasn't annoying (gives me hope considering he's the lead in a tv adaption of a Pratchett book) and the alien was funny because he had a northern accent. It had some stupid bits in it, but overall it was okay. Well, until Tennant turned up of course, with his smart-alec one liners and overexcited demeanour. Come to think of it, that's probably why I liked the episode, he was hardly in it.