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[Showsni]

"Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin."
Watch with mother goes evil!

[Fyxe]

This next one better be as good as the werewolf one. That one was the best one this series. Although I am tired of the 'it's an alien' answer to *everything*.

Ghosts? Aliens. Werewolves? Aliens. Vampires? Aliens. I bet the Loch Ness Monster was an alien too.

[Showsni]

Um, yep. http://www.physics.m...serials/4f.html

[Tekky]

By the same argument, why is everything in Buffy/Charmed etc demonic? That's the genre of the show, because it's sci fi, the monsters are going to be alien

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Seriously, those "men in black" are agents from Torchwood. They must be!

[GJ Skywalker]

Well, we only have till tomorrow to see!

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Well, we only have till tomorrow to see!

Yes... *gets VCR ready*

[Fyxe]

By the same argument, why is everything in Buffy/Charmed etc demonic? That's the genre of the show, because it's sci fi, the monsters are going to be alien

Actually, ignoring Charmed because it's lame, in Buffy they had a government agency and a robot, and, of course, magic users gone bad. But yes, it's majority demons, but the difference is they don't throw in some aliens and say 'ALIENS ARE REALLY DEMONS'. That's the difference.

[Tekky]

Even at that, with the exception really of the Buffy bot and its predecessor, most things in Buffy had their origin in mythological things. Even the Initiative, as they captured and experimented on Demons. Magic Users gone bad is still in the mythological theme. It wouldnt make as much sense to have Buffy battling aliens from the Planet Zog, any more than it makes sense to have the Doctor NOT battling aliens... (after all, the protagonist is an alien himself!)

Looks like they werent Torchwood agents, just normal police!!

[GJ Skywalker]

What did everyone think of today's episode?

BTW there were some ambiguous and suggestive lines from what I can recall.

[Fyxe]

I miss Chris. I only like Tennant when he gets angry, not when he's acting like a kid's Tv presenter.

Also, that rediculously loud and over the top musical score is getting very *annoying*.

Hopefully next week's episode will be as good as the werewolf one, because so far nothing's come close to that one in this series. It looks interesting, based on Cthuhlu by the looks of things.
I bet you anything... It'll be an alien.

Tekky, the problem I have is when the Doctor encounters a *clearly* mythological beast and says 'it's actually an alien'. Which seems to be happening a lot. It's just a bit of a cop-out and stops them from coming up with unique alien ideas or a backstory for a monster that means it's NOT an alien. Like the Cybermen, those weren't aliens, not in this series, and they actually had a backstory. Shame the episodes were a bit predictable...
I understand he's an alien and it's all about other worlds and aliens, but in that case... HAVE SOME ACTUAL ALIENS.

Also, have Rose and the Doctor EVER visited someplace that *isn't* Earth or a space station? Where are all the other planets?

Edited by Fyxe, 27 May 2006 - 06:08 PM.

[Tekky]

Fair enough with the werewolf thing. At least the Gelth were reasonably well explained (what with the whole Time War thing), you could let them off with that. The "wolf alien" was quite cheesy...

LOL, that is so true [the Earth thing]! Apparently they took the piss out of that in one of the 9th Doctor Books. Still, at least we're finally going somewhere other than Earth or New Earth (amazingly their first "alien" planet) this week! Even though they all look suspiciously human and are referring to the empire (4th and great bountiful human empire perhaps?)
When are we going to visit a genuine alien planet and not see humans all the time? That was the nice thing about "The end of the world" (even though it was in orbit of the Earth, the Doctor and Rose were the only human looking people there)

I too miss Chris, although David has really grown on me. But Chris was fantastic. Absolutely fantastic... (yes that was intentional)
I want David Tennants coat!!

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Bah, so they weren't Torchwood agents after all, but working from orders from "higher up". No mention of Torchwood, one mention of the word, God in the phrase "God save the Queen", which really does add to my theory that God is the "Bad Wolf" phrase of this season...

Plus was it just me or did those TV aerials look like they were shaped like Nazi Swastikas?

[Tekky]

Torchwood was mentioned, apparently during the faceless Rose bit, one of them said something like "this'll get torchwood on our backs"

I'm pretty sure Torchwood is the buzz word, I think perhaps you're looking a little too much into the God thing. Afterall, look hard enough and you're bound to find things showing up!

[GJ Skywalker]

Today's ep looks good:

Part one of two. The Doctor is trapped on a desolate planet with a team of exploreres and a sinister alien race.

That was from Ceefax...

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Ah, Ceefax... I haven't used that thing for such a long time.

[GJ Skywalker]

TV guide for free! Except for the TV license...

[Fyxe]

Well they *definitely* mentioned 'God' in that episode.

Good one, this one, despite the use of the DOOM 'door opening' sound effect. Still, in an episode about Satan, I suppose it's appropriate.

[Veteran]

I missed the first minute or so, so I don't know how the Doctor and Rose came to be on that station. There seems to be [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img] of that this series - them ending up in random places and sometimes the TARDIS doesn't go where the Doc tells it to go. More to this maybe?


Another great line from the Doctor:

Well there's no turning back.

Ohhh did you have to? No turning back? That's almost as bad as "nothing can possibly go wrong" or "this is going to be the best Christmas Walford's ever had."

[Fyxe]

I missed the first minute or so, so I don't know how the Doctor and Rose came to be on that station. There seems to be [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img] of that this series - them ending up in random places and sometimes the TARDIS doesn't go where the Doc tells it to go. More to this maybe?

Well, they just ended up there. In a storage room, basically. I don't think there's ever a reason where the TARDIS ends up where it does. o.o The Doctor did say the TARDIS seemed to be 'ill', though, so I expect that'll come up again later. And we just know they're gonna find the TARDIS down that pit somewhere.

Also, FINALLY they're on another planet.

Edited by Fyxe, 03 June 2006 - 02:07 PM.

[Tekky]

Place your bets now, will "The Beast" turn out to be actually the beast, or another alien...

That episode was awesome! Glad I aint the only person who noticed the Doom door sound effect!

[GJ Skywalker]

It was great, but what's with all those Hollywood-type mistakes. If you need to communicate, communicate! Don't stand there gaping or the Doctor won't know what he's dealing with!

But yeah, a great ep today. Really creepy and tense how that guy got possessed by the Legion.

BTW, does anyone watch the Tardisodes? If yes, what are they like?

[Fyxe]

Technically, Tekky, they're already on another planet, so, yep, it's an alien. >.>

Skywalker, they couldn't communicate because none of their communicators were workin' as soon as things started going bad. This episode didn't have that many plotholes.

Not like that episode with the clockwork robots. That had THOUSANDS.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

I'm pretty sure Torchwood is the buzz word, I think perhaps you're looking a little too much into the God thing. Afterall, look hard enough and you're bound to find things showing up!

Looking a little too much into the God thing, am I?

Now we have to see whether the "God" buzzword was building up to this two-parter or whether it will continue after it and build up to something else entirely.

And yes, though it is no doubt going to be an alien, it is quite astonishing that it knows so much about Earth culture, isn't it? They may be implying that the Beast is an alien and has always been an alien or this could be merely an alien that has been feeding off their thoughts and dreams for so long.

[Tekky]

Yes, I shot myself somewhat in the foot with that one... Good call!

[Veteran]

Other buzzwords include "that's/it's beautiful" and "I'm so sorry".

I'm sure this wasn't as noticable in the first series.

[Tekky]

It wasnt, Bad Wolf was quite subtle... Until the Doctor notices it anyway!

[Fyxe]

I thought we all noticed Bad Wolf when it first appeared quite obviously on the side of the TARDIS...

[Showsni]

And yes, though it is no doubt going to be an alien, it is quite astonishing that it knows so much about Earth culture, isn't it? They may be implying that the Beast is an alien and has always been an alien or this could be merely an alien that has been feeding off their thoughts and dreams for so long.

Or that there's only one Satan in the universe whichever planet you're on.

So, the Doctor versus the devil? Hmm...

According to Wikipedia, Satan was a synonym for Sutekh the Destroyer, who was defeated by the Fourth Doctor and trapped in a time tunnel for thousands of years. And the person who voiced Sutekh is apparently the person voicing the Beast in these episodes... Does anyone remember if Sutekh was one of the names the beast said he was known as?

[Tekky]

I thought we all noticed Bad Wolf when it first appeared quite obviously on the side of the TARDIS...

Obviously, but the rest of the references are more subtle... Did you notice the helicopter call sign at first? Or the "Bad Wolf TV" in "The Long Game", it spray painted on the wall in "Fathers Day", in German on the bomb in The Doctor Dances... If you did I take my hat off to you, but I wasnt that observant first time around until it was pointed out, either by the Doctor in Boom Town, or the various websites