If the Sages' bloodline doesn't have to be literal, then surely the same can be said for the hero. Personally, I think ALTTP Link's connection to the Knights of Hyrule has been the only distinct bloodline relation.
Not necessarily. The Sages have the implication of being Arahitogami, so they form a branch of "descendants" by passing on spiritual powers. Link can't exactly replicate this.
There are two seals on Hyrule: the flood itself and the Master Sword. Clearly Ganon circumvented at least one, probably both because Ganondorf is 1) not in Hyrule; 2) managed to avoid the Master Sword one by stealing its power.
1) Well obviously he was in Hyrule when the seal was cast. 2) He didn't exactly "steal" the power, technically speaking, he kinda killed it outright.
I keep referring to the TWW seals (the one broken that the King refers to is a TWW seal; what other seal would he refer to at that time?) and then am countered with "LOL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAGES' SEAL". Stop pretending that makes ME an idiot.
The SR seal could not have been broken (coming from the not-really-an-assumption position that OoT is the IW and the seals are the same) because it requires the sages' power to be broken, and it is apparent that Ganon was revived from the Sacred Realm before he attacked the sages. You have to provide evidence that the seal was broken. You keep saying you have, but no one talks about the seal from OoT in TWW.
Have you read the translation at all?
The bolded assumption is actually rather illogical.
The Hero of Time has no family, that's why he was raised by a god damned tree.
Did it ever occur to you that he might be wrong?
He's clearly out of the loop about a lot of things, like the Master Sword losing its power, Link being able to harness the Triforce of Courage, etc.
Souls can reincarnated into parallel histories now? Good to know.
And, as for how to break the seal, he could do it in the ALttP way... murdering the descendants from the Seven Sages.
Right, or he could've found another way around it, just like we were shown that there's multiple ways to revive Ganon from the dead.
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"Now that Ganon has been revived" (from the "seal of the gods") he once again poses a threat.
If the KoRL is talking about the present threat, his reference to a seal that ceased to matter a long time ago doesn't make sense. He's talking about Ganon's present escape and how it has allowed him to once again threaten the world. Furthermore, he references the "seal of the gods," and the seal Link knows about was never in any way connected to the gods.
Also, doesn't the fact that he clarifies that Ganondorf is the same one from the legends (the Ganondorf Link has heard of, as some would have it) also somewhat show that the seal he talks about is different. If he's talking about the seal Link already knows, there would be no need to clarify the identity of the villain in relation to the legends, would there?
....You have absolutely no grasp on context, do you?
No, I'm not saying there's an extra Triforce. The point of what I'm saying is that it was literally the timeline split that splits the Triforce to 8 pieces, not Zelda, Link, or the King (all of which were theories) What may give you that impression is that I think that the timeline didn't split right when Zelda sent Link back, but rather when he changed history by closing the Door of Time, tipping everyone off about Ganondorf, and/or leaving for Termina. (unless, of course, Zelda sent him back to an earlier time than he usually goes back to, which would be enough by itself to change history)
So where would the ToC of the Adult Timeline have been inbetween Link being sent back and the splitting of the timeline? The idea I presented is much simpler.
As others have already noted, it also seems fishy that he would describe Ganondorf and the legends Link already knows in detail and then clarify that this is the guy from the legends Link already knows.
Elaboration purposes.
In the first place, "Ancient Creators of Hyrule" need not necessarily refer to the gods. TP, for instance, says that the Hylians were thought to have created Hyrule. The Japanese says "pantheon of ancient times" which could easily refer to the sages or the gods. Since Zelda relates to us earlier that the sages will open the sealed door and the line you cite mimics Zelda's description perfectly, I'd say it's referring to the sages.
Are you fucking kidding me? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
Bah, I already told you, that's not what the King says. In fact, nothing - nothing - in the game supports what you are now saying. You only claim that because you think that due to the HoT being sent back at the end of OoT, his soul can no longer exist within that timeline. And I ask you, why is that?
Well, now that he's in the Child Timeline, his soul will reincarnate along there. He can't be in two bodies at once, now can he?
Certainly, if you ask me, they wouldn't send the KoRL to search for the Hero of Time if there was no Hero to find.
I highly doubt the Goddesses came down and said "rofl find the Hero of Time." He probably assumed that on his own. We know from Zelda's accounts that the goddesses speak in dreams, prophecy, and vague symbolic imagery.
On the contrary, the game employs a common plot progression where the truth about the Hero's identity is withheld until the end, when it is revealed that he is in fact the Hero of Time reborn.
But no, you say, this information must be false! The villain cannot be right, he is contradicting what the good guy said earlier!
Yeah, right. Other than the fact that this is a common narrative technique, I have do to wonder, do you realize what you are saying? You're effectively denying the possibility that Darth Vader is Luke's father because the 'good and wise' Obi-Wan Kenobi denied it before Vader told Luke the truth!
That's hardly a valid comparison, considering Ganondorf said this on his OWN assumptions because of his inability to let go, and decided that this kid was the HoT just because he kicked a monster's ass. Nevermind that Letting go of the past is the biggest theme of the game. Nevermind that TWW Link had to "earn" his destiny. Nevermind that him NOT being the reincarnation of the Hero of Time is probably what allowed him to break the karmic Zarathustra the characters were all stuck in.
There's really no reasonable excuse against Ganondorf's revelation, other than the argument that the writers really didn't know what the fuck they were doing. It's either that the game lies to the player for no reason, that it is inconsistent with the split timeline, or that the writers simply did not see the split as a problem. Everything I've seen so far points to the latter, including the minor differences between the Japanese and NoA versions.
Or that Ganondorf has become so obsessed with returning to how things were that he LOST HIS GRIP ON REALITY.
Honestly, there's more to these characters than being exposition mouthpieces.
