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#841 lord-of-shadow

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:33 PM

Other new things in these videos:

-There's a scene where Fox gets his Final Smash when Zero Suit Samus on on the stage. This means one of two things: Zero Suit Samus is independantly selectable, or final smashes drop more than once per battle. My money's still on both, actually, but now we know for sure that one or the other is true.

-Character icons on the bottom fade when a character goes behind them. Look at Pit's icon at the 0:05 mark.

-We see Lucas doing some sort of move at 0:48 that is NOT one of Ness's old moves.

-Taunts are back. Look at Ike at the 0:50 mark.


Adventure mode looks incredibly awesome, too.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:39 PM

You mean it's not possible to play a game without owning it?

They sure could've had me fooled.

Apparently you did not spend enough time with it to learn much the game at all (evidently not even bothering to watch and/or memorize the beautiful intro), and I assume you therefore did not experience the growing monotony of its stupidly simple minigames.

-We see Lucas doing some sort of move at 0:48 that is NOT one of Ness's old moves.

That could be a modified PK Flash, or simply his taunt.

Moreover, the trailer revealed several new stages (Lave Caves, Ice Climbers and (?) Subspace/Final Destination) as well as some new moves/additions. Peach's taunt appears to have a paralyzing effect this time. Link summons Navi... Even though she wasn't in TP. Oh well...

Edited by Hero of Legend, 10 October 2007 - 02:54 PM.


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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:43 PM

Wait, what? I heard about a FE DS game, but it's actually a remake?

Dude, it's like, right here, pay attention to the very forum you're on. XP


Aha! You've made the classic blunder of assuming I feel anything else in this forum is worth reading! Ahahaha!

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:49 PM

It's not like we didn't expect this, but it's nice to have it confirmed all the same. I'll note that the release date has changed back to "TBD" though, which sucks a great deal.

Personally, if they're limited to one more third party character, I would expect to a Square-Enix character, given all the musical talent from them seemingly randomly involved in the same.


Nobuo Uematsu is technically a free lancer - he still does quite a bit for SE, but he's free to work for other companies now. Sorta like how he did the Brawl theme.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:53 PM

Apparently you did not spend enough time with it to learn much the game at all

Um, no. I haven't. When have I ever said otherwise?

I've played it once at my friend's house, once at my cousin's house, and I rented it once. The most recent of those (renting) was over half of a year ago.

you therefore did not experience the growing monotony of its stupidly simple minigames.

Of course I haven't had nearly enough access to it to get to that point, having only played it a few times.

I don't get where all this contradicting me is coming from. Especially when it stems from me noting a sandbag trophy, and making an intentionally stupid comment about it.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:56 PM

Frankly, depending on how many more we get, I see it breaking down like this - in order of who would get in first.

Namco's Pac-Man
Capcom's Mega Man
Hudson's Bomberman (Hudson may be a part of Konami, but have longed enjoyed a close working relationship with Nintendo)
Square's Generic Character (Either "Black Mage" or "Chocobo")

I just don't see Square being that high of priority. They've only warmed up to Nintendo's handheld platform, whereas the other three have been a bit more friendly to the Gamecube and Wii. Namco is also part of the Triforce Arcade board along with Sega and Nintendo. Although not a founder of the board, Capcom has made a few games for it.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 03:24 PM

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It just keeps looking better and better.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 04:05 PM

Holy Fuck.

...okay, it's not that big of an announcement, but still a megaton nonetheless. I hope he is balanced; he looks way too fast right now. I mean, I'm sure he has drawbacks, but I can only base these opinions off of what I see.

This is so sweet! :)

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 04:16 PM

Well, it's an introduction movie, they're hardly going to show him getting pummeled. XP

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 07:30 PM

Sonic? Hmm. Well.

I never had a Sega system, so I can't really comment. My only real exposure to Sonic is the cartoon. (The old one, I assume. With "Sonic Says" segment at the end.)

They should get Megaman and Simon Belmont, and you could do Captain N fights...


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Posted 11 October 2007 - 01:56 AM

Here's another version which seems to be non-photoshopped:

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Let's see. There's: Mario, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus, Fox, Pikachu, Diddy, Pit, Meta Knight, Ike, Peach, Yoshi, Sonic, Bowser... No Jiggs?

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 02:34 AM

That screen only shows fifteen of the 21 already-revealed, so it's obviously completely... er.. incomplete.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 04:35 AM

No Jiggs?

Sod Jiggs, there's no KIRBY.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 01:58 PM

And Jiggs will be an unlockable character, as always. Hence why he's not shown.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 02:15 PM

North America release delayed to February 10, 2008

Japan release delayed to January 24, 2008

PAL release delayed to TBA 2008 (i.e. never)

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 02:27 PM

PAL release delayed to TBA 2008 (i.e. never)

It was always TBA. Now at least we get it the same year. I would kill if this turns out to be another Super Paper Mario though.

Sod Jiggs, there's no KIRBY.

But there is a blue Kirby that pwns everyone! There's also Dark Link! ...As a skin for Link, I mean.

No, I'm not being very funny. Sucks for you (and me).

Edited by Hero of Legend, 11 October 2007 - 04:21 PM.


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Posted 11 October 2007 - 04:00 PM

So....we've got.... two more months to go... ._.

can't...wait...agghh!!

...Well, since there's going to be another few months, plus the fact that we have Sonic AND Snake in Brawl, we're probably going to get one or two more 3rd party characters, no? Any guesses? I'm thinking of two more: Bomberman, and Rayman. Perhaps we'll also get Nightmare from SoulCalibur (or someone from that series), and Mega Man. Anyone else more likely now that they've anounced Sonic?

Edited by D~N, 11 October 2007 - 04:01 PM.


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Posted 11 October 2007 - 04:10 PM

Nightmare is a bit out there, but I've never considered Rayman. He certainly is a possibility, given UbiSoft's love affair with Nintendo.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 04:53 PM

Megaman is my top bet. Capcom is still on relatively good terms with Nintendo, and Megaman is such an integral part of any NES fan's memories that Nintendo would have to be crazy to NOT try to get him in.

Plus he matches the SMash aesthetic perfectly.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 05:09 PM

So....we've got.... two more months to go... ._.


Four more months.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 06:13 PM

He meant two more on top of the two we previously thought.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 06:14 PM

I think Megaman is also the best bet for a third 3rd party character. Nintendo, Capcom, Sega, and Konami were the Masters of the 8-Bit era, and Capcom's most Nintendo-associated character is Megaman. He looks the Smash Bros part, and his move set would be easy enough given the absurd number of abilities he's stolen from level bosses over the years.

His Final Smash would be to transform into Megaman-X for some 16-bit style butt-whoopery.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 08:20 PM

I'd love to see Geno on the roster, to be honest.

Though Megaman definitely gets the nostalgia vote.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 06:58 AM

I'd love to see Geno on the roster, to be honest.

That would be awesome in many ways.

Now, about today's update, any guesses on the blurred out selection? I'm fairly sure it'll be an 'Edit' feature of some kind, possibly allowing you to make simple stylish adjustments like lighting effects, sepia and other little things like that.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 09:14 AM

Now you can take pictures whenever you want? 'Cause if so.... yeeeees. ^^ That will make everything so much more awesome, since the best situations always pop up when you're playing a normal game in a group or something.

Also, Fyxe, I think that's astute. :D Would be cool, tool; maybe it could even have stamps or voice bubbles or something of the sort.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 10:23 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
MY LIFE IS RUINED!!!


Well on a completely different note, it'd be cool if Jack Sparrow appeared in smash, so unlikely it borders impossible, but cool.

Edited by Captain Jack Sparrow, 12 October 2007 - 11:05 AM.


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Posted 12 October 2007 - 10:41 AM

What the hell?

And it's not "not likely," it just not going to happen.
Thank the gods.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 10:49 AM

I'm... guessing his life is ruined because of the delay.


And I want Gimli in smash bros but it's not gonna happen.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 10:58 AM

Captain Jack Sparrow?

That certainly puts the anti-Sonic people into perspective.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 11:08 AM

Jeez, guys. Remember everything is possible. He could be put in, but the odds are so minuscule. That's all. I think he would be a cool character though. Sort of like marth with links bombs and ranged stuffs. Thats my next guess for the advancement of smash, Movie characters! (smash 4 or 5...)

And my life is ruined because of the delay.

Edited by Captain Jack Sparrow, 12 October 2007 - 11:09 AM.





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