But do we have reasons to think that he is? I mean, everybody and their dog(s) have doubles in Termina, so he might just as well.
Yeah, but why would they make him a traveler, like Link, if he was Terminian? Why have him assaulted in the forest at all? And why doesn?t he seem to belong in Termina (he has no house, no friends, and no intent to stay)?
Sure we meet Skull Kid in Hyrule, but he could have gotten there after stealing Majora's Mask. Or the salesman may have had his own reasons to go there.
I'm not sure I get you, here. I don't really consider the Skull Kids you can fight in adult OoT to be the
Skull Kid from MM. And as for the Mask Salesman, well that's just another assumption you have to make. If he was the salesman from OoT, it would make perfect sense for him to appear in MM as he is a traveling man.
That I would. He seems to belong to a different Asian-like race, with slanted eyes and yellow skin.
And what about the wind mill man, for example? It's not like he's the only Hylian that looks like that.
Was that stated? I only remember it happening in (non specified) woods. But regardless, I agree even if it's not stated it would be a logical assumption. However I don't think this has to mean the mask was in Hyrule before the Salesman retrieved it.
I agree with all of that.
The first point toward a Majora/Termina connection, is that the people of Termina are (and probably always have been) obsessed by masks. Just consider the carnival of time or how many masks are seen hanging in Clock Town. Not to mention that with the possible exception of the Mask of Truth, we didn't get any magical masks in Hyrule. So it seems to be a Terminian thing and would appear reasonable for the most powerful of magical masks to originate there. But that's the weakest part of my argument.
Yeah, that's one of the reasons why you would expect Majora's Mask to be from Termina. However, it still doesn't appear in any of the legends told in the land, and that's something I would expect when dealing with an item of that power.
Personally, I think the implication is that the use of masks is supposed to be a universal (that's why the mask salesman travels the world looking for them, and why the people of Hyrule, Termina and indeed the race that created Majora uses them), and Termina is simply a land in which masks are a particularly important part of the religion.
So about the Garo, I already mentioned how the Mask Salesman looks Asian. Well the Garo's are actually said to be ninjas (whereas, as ninja like as they may be, I don't think the Sheikah ever were) so that may already be a connection: the Mask Salesman may belong to the same tribe as the Garo did (I presume the name Garo applies to a warrior class. According to Jumbie their country of origin was called the Teki Kingdom, which was an actual, real world, Asian kingdom).
I think that's a pretty big stretch, honestly.
Now we also see that the kids wearing the masks on the moon bear the same features as the mask salesman and they talk about becoming mask salesmans themselves. If the connection between Majora and the Salesman was only that he recently found the mask, why would the other masks who serve Majora (and Majora itself, sitting under the tree) take on his appearence? Personally, I believe this to be indication that the Asian like race of the salesman is the tribe that created Majora (which would explain why we never see any other people like him, since that tribe has been destroyed. He might be one of very few survivors, kind of like Impa and the Sheikah the racial traits of whom seem to be pretty much gone completely by games set later on in the timeline).
You have a point, there. I never thought about the kids looking like the Mask Salesman. Well, assuming it means something, it is obvious that the whole place was created by Majora. So why did he chose the salesman as his avatar? I could say it was the salesman was who awakened the mask, and that it took his form for that reason. Or maybe FDL was right about the mystery surrounding the salesman, and that would have something to do with it? Or perhaps the vision is influenced by the previous owners of the mask, mirroring the Mask Salesman?s appearance and profession, as well as the Skull Kids loneliness? However, I admit this part of your theory is sound. It would explain why the Mask Salesman knew where to find the mask, although then it doesn?t make sense that he does not know Majora?s true power.
So if we go off that supposition, the curse which originated from Stone Tower could have been the great calamity Majora caused before the ancients sealed it off. Sealed it how? Possibly by locking it inside the Stone Tower, which apparently was built by the Ikanians enemies. So that would mean, the ancient ones were in fact the Ikanians.
I agree the Stone Tower might have been built by the enemies of the Ikanians (though it's also the shrine of one of the giants...) I don't think it was the Garo however, because they were supposed to be scouts sent to spy on the enemy, and they wouldn't build something of that magnitude. What's more, the Ikanians apparently fought a lot of wars. In fact, the King says it was their perpetual quarrelling that left the Kingdom in it's ruined state...
After all, there IS a gigantic stone structure shaped like Majora in the Tower's entry room which doesn't seem like a later addition but an integral part of the structure. Heck it pretty much makes up the entrance room seeing how it connects to the platforms you walk unto.
Uh, well, except that statue really doesn't look like Majora at all.
Of course that would mean it was the Mask Salesman who brought back the curse on Ikana by opening the doors of the tower, and it just so happens that Skull Kid is never blamed for that. Just... someone (whereas Skull Kid is very specifically blamed for persuading Sharp in keeping things that way as well as a lot of other wrongdoings in the game).
To be fair, that might be because the King of Ikana had no way of knowing what happened outside of his castle.
Edited by Hero of Legend, 16 October 2008 - 04:06 PM.