Exactly how bad is the IGN board? Like, is there a topic you can show which demonstrates that level of idiocy? I mean, if GameFAQs has decent timeline topics, IGN can't be that terrible, can it?
Before you read this thread, keep in mind that the member named Volvagia_slayer is supposed to be IGN's main Zelda "intellectual".
Owwww... My brain got hurted.
No no no no nononononononononononono... Make it stop, mommy!
It makes the most sense to me that TP Ganondorf is a different Ganondorf altogether than OoT/TWW Ganondorf. After all, Nintendo said TP takes place at least 100 years after OoT, which would mean a new male Gerudo had been born during that time period. So while OoT Ganondorf was in the Sacred Realm, TP Ganondorf was trying to take over Hyrule before being imprisoned in the Twilight Realm.
But...how...the ToP...in the cutscene...
OoT/TWW Ganondorf was the relatively unknown king of the Gerudo who wanted to get the Triforce to be able to take over Hyrule because he hated the desert and the life it brought. He infiltrated the Hylian Royal Family by swearing allegiance to the king. He attacked Hyrule Castle and got the Triforce of Power. He became known as the King of Evil once he had taken over and continued searching for the missing pieces of the Triforce he didn't get.
TP Ganondorf was widely known throughout Hyrule as an evil demon thief. He wanted to take over the Sacred Realm so he got together a band of thieves and invaded Hyrule, but he was captured and thrown into the Twilight Realm. He then formed a bond with Zant in order to escape the realm and merge light and shadow to create darkness. He tried to stop Midna, whom he viewed as his biggest threat (he had obviously never heard of Link or any other hero for that matter, despite the fact that the legends of the Hero of Time were being spread throughout Hyrule at this time). He took on the title Dark Lord, and never sought any piece of the Triforce.
That's not all Nintendo said. In addition they said that even though Link told Zelda, they decided to tell no one else and they decided to do nothing. Then Ganondorf went and did something horrible causing him to be captured and sent to the Arbiter's Grounds to be executed.
Find a happy place, find a happy place, find a happy place!
However, even with all of this evidence that TWW fits in the child timeline, TWW Ganondorf remembers fighting the Hero of Time, something that only happened in the adult timeline... TWW's back story tells the tale of the Hero of Time fighting OoT Ganon which took place in the adult timeline... TWW logically has to follow both the adult AND child timelines. That can only happen if they're both the same timeline... something that is only possible with the single timeline.
ARGH! NoA ALttP manual is a no-go! Bad! Bad!
Not necessarily. If there has ever only been one Master Sword, I totally agree with you. However, the Master Sword in ALttP seems to have a different origin story than the Master Sword we see in OoT, TP, and TWW. We know very little about the earlier Master Sword, but ALttP's Master Sword was supposedly forged in a time AFTER Ganon had already been trapped in the Dark World and had started sending evil minions out of the realm and into Hyrule. The sages created the sword but couldn't find anyone who had the physical or spiritual strength to wield the sword, so they hid it away in the forest. A seal was then placed on the Dark World so that Ganon couldn't escape the Dark World and no more of his minions could easily escape it. According to this story it seems as if ALttP Link was the very first person to wield this Master Sword, and if that's the case, ALttP could very easily take place after TWW. (Top that off with the rumored fact that ST takes place in an unflooded land at least a century after PH, and there still remains the possibility of Old Hyrule unflooding and someone being able to reclaim the original Master Sword.)
Hey Average Gamer, when you debate with these cretins, do you ever post links to the Japanese Translation topic here that disprove their stupid theories? I think I can see something in common with these bad theorizers. One guy posts in a topic explaining his theory in every detail. The casual players don't think to double-check him and just go along, pointing newbies to his theory as the best one. That's what happened at ZU with the United Wise Men and all of the sheeple blindly following them.
EDIT: Well, I was browsing over at IGN, and everybody there apparently thinks Zelda Wii is another OoT sequel because of Link's hair.
EDIT AGAIN: I found a web archive of TMSword.com (the site I mentioned earlier) and found this tibit of "information." Notice that nothing in this theory is based on canon, it's based on the ALttP comic book and the cartoon show. Here's again where he threw around dates like how OoT was "60-80" years before ALttP.
Edited by Person, 10 June 2009 - 11:17 PM.