I dislike the theory that the woods go from Hyrule's northwest corner along north of the Death Mountain range, around Zora's Fountain and to the east where once Kokiri Forest was (later the Eastern area).
It's not a theory, it's a simple fact that the woods go beyond Death Mountain. All you have to do is go up Death Mountain in ALttP and look. How far it reaches is another matter.
Also, AoL's overworld makes clear that the northward extension of the DM range is actually 10 times larger than the horizontal view we usually see. There are some trees on AoL's DM range, but by no means complete woods.
TLoZ and AoL use a completely different map to other Zelda games. Honestly, I think arguing about stuff based in in-game geography is rather pointless.
We've seen the White Sword becoming the Four Sword, but the Master Sword has always been the Master Sword, never a Noble Sword to start with.
...The Four Sword was always the Four Sword until TMC. What's your point? If you find a rusted magical sword that's called the Noble Sword and you later find out that it's actually the legendary Master Sword, what's the problem?
We never saw or read of any other hero than Link roaming Hyrule, so we have to assume there was never one.
There was the hero in TMC's backstory, who wasn't named. Why can't there be more than one hero? That's a massive assumption to make.
I can't tell you what sense that makes, you'd have to ask Capcom.
No, YOU are the one coming up with the idea that it is a copy, not Capcom.
...That is, granted you're not interested in a merry-go-round discussion!
Whee. Round and round. I find it hard to drop an argument if people start insulting my intelligence for no good reason. And with that, onto mohammedali's comments...
The point is that OoX doesn't work if the MS is one sword. The different facts about the MS in the game contradict each other if the MS is supposed to be the same sword suggesting either there are multiple MSs, or it's just a silly easter egg. There is no other way it can work.
Yes. It. Can. On a single playthrough, there are no contradictions. On a second playthrough, the backstory of the MS might be different. Big whoop. I hardly see this as a problem, it's merely a result of the way the Oracle games are designed.
It's not difficult Fyxe.
...Hey, Mr. Patronisatron, instead of thinking I'm the stupid one, open your mind for a second.
Irrespective of what Link does in OoX, it's not going to change the past/facts about the MS.
That's true. But the ORDER you play the games DOES affect the past about the sword. And so what? The order you play the games affects the present history and the order you play the games affects the past history. What does that matter to anything?
If we find out different facts about the MS (irrespective of the path Link takes to find them), then the facts still hold.
No, because that's not the way the game is designed. On a single playthrough, one fact holds true, and on another playthrough, another fact holds true. Which one is the true fact? You might as well ask which country Link saves first, or what name Link should give to that kid, or whether the queen's message to the skeletal pirate guy gets to him or not. It's as simple as asking which game you play first. And since there is no answer, then you'll just have to deal with there being two possiblities.
That's different as it's something that IS effected by the path Link takes.
MS past NOT effected by Links actions in OoX. Where Link first meets Zelda IS effected by Links actions.
Actually, it's not Link's actions at all. It's the Triforce's actions. If the present is variable, then why can't the past be the same? What difference does it make?
Let's try again. aLttP ending which is 100% canon says the MS sleeps forever. If OoX comes after aLttP then the MS is not to feature in it. The MS is an optional item in OoX - therefore to make it consistant, the optional MS in OoX does not happen.
Why does optional mean it's less canon? In what way does that affect the rules of canon in any shape or form? Why not argue that the ALttP ending was just retroactively changed, or that the ending was written from the perspective of the moment rather than some all-seeing narration?
To spell it out: A canon fact holds more weight than an optional point.
Why? Because you say so?
My point is that there is nothing supporting it being canon, and lists supporting it isn't canon as it is not part of the franchise.
...It was made by Nintendo, if you ask me that's ENOUGH.
No. It's not part of the franchise according to Nintendo.
You're basing that on one seminar. What rubbish.
Aonuma said what is part of the franchise himself. Get over it.
Get over your sodding ego. All he did was give a list in a seminar. There are perfectly logical reason for why he didn't mention KnS, and not being part of the franchise is not one of them. That's jumping to big conclusions just to support your own biased viewpoint.
I'm not saying anything too difficult Fyxe.
Seriously, shut the fuck up now, I feel I should report you if you keep treating me like I'm an idiot.