He doesn't appear in the prologue as of 2003
LOL PROLOGUE LOL
Oh yes, I'm sorry. Excuse me for not considering the fan translation of a fictional, inconsistent language by a backwater, obscure fansite.
It's by the same guy who did the translation for the ALttP SNES manual and Hylian has been officially announced by the creators as a cipher.
LTTP and IW Ganon not being the same is impossible, and you're the only person who contests it for your own personal interpretations.
Not true. Others have come to the same conclusion based on creator quotes. Everyone else just contests the Miyamoto quotes for their own personal interpretations.
As for the changes, it doesn't get more blatant as getting rid of the one detail that makes it impossible for OoT to be the IW (Ganon) while leaving the one detail that makes it impossible for OoT NOT to be the IW (Triforce still in the Sacred Realm from creation) while at the same time relocalizing the game to fit OoT lingo (wise men was a perfectly acceptable translation).
LOL, this is a good one. How picky you seem to be with what constitutes an acceptable retcon clearly shows your biases. Despite your garbage list, we're arguing for a single retcon, one that has been CLEARLY evident in the games ever since TWW came out and replaced ALttP's previous position.
Your single retcon contradicts the most recent version of ALttP which was released after TWW in Japan.
Japan's TWW release: 12/13/2002
Japan's ALttP GBA release: 3/14/2003
The GBA version cites the creation as the reference point for the ALttP IW, saying that the people went for the "place that held the gold"; if they intended to replace ALttP's previous position, this is an error, as the creation is no longer the reference point and has nothing to do with the position of the Triforce.
Anything to try to manipulate Nintendo's obvious INTENT regarding Ganon's seal (which there was no need to state more explicitly than they did) to baseless speculation that is pretty clearly NOT what Nintendo meant for us to understand happened. The point is never to nitpick at semantics the way you do CONSTANTLY, we're looking for the whole spirit and intended meaning of the story.
Here is their most recent intent regarding Ganon's seal:
1) It was cast when the Sacred Realm was first invaded by the seven sages after the Knights' sacrifice
2) It cannot be broken except by use of the sages' power
3) Ganon in ALttP couldn't figure out how to return to the world of light (although inevitably does via Agahnim)
The Deku Tree tells us that he plans to turn all
the islands into one big island
--this would include the islands of the Great Sea which are over the original land of Hyrule. That the people would name the land "Hyrule" in no way contradicts whether or not that land would or would not be Daphnes's "Hyrule."
There is no evidence of this in ALttP. None of the references to Ganon in ALttP explicitly line out his connection to the IW; just how he got into the Sacred Realm in ALttP and what he plans to do now. Whether they actually are references to the IW is up for debate certainly, but none of them are explicit ones.
The knowledge of Ganon in the Imprisoning War possessed by the descendants of the sages who sealed him.
Except you're ignoring the goddamn obvious implication because you refuse to apply logic to this situation, out of fear for how it affects your theory.
It doesn't really matter. If the islanders know of Ganon it doesn't affect my theory. All I'm saying is that I see no evidence that they do. The legends we hear do not mention Ganon by name in any case.
The legend of the Hero of Time is known to people on Outset Island (and to Tetra, by the way). This legend is recounted to the player at the start of the game. It's the SAME LEGEND.
We don't know precisely what the legend is. It may be the legend at the start of the game. It may be parts of it. That legend might have surfaced posthumously and is being told by a narrator. I don't know. I won't presume to know.
This legend, as the KoRL says, speaks of an evil named Ganon.
The evil is rather nameless.
The fishmen don't mention him; they do mention his monsters. The kidnapped girls may never even encounter him, and even if they did, why recognize him? I'll give you the Rito point; in fact, I cited them myself. As for NPCs in TP, see: Auru, Zelda, Midna.
Also, the seal of the gods does not refer to the sages' seal. It could not, not in reference to the current threat. Ganon was supposed to be sealed below the sea, but he was not. The King of Red Lions does not know why he was able to "break" the seal of the gods. This is revealed later-- he stole the Master Sword's power and so its power over him is null. The seal itself still seems to be intact, however.
And we now know that there was not still a seal on Ganon during TWW, anyway. There was a seal on Hyrule (intact through to the end of the game), and a seal on Ganon's monsters (intact until Link draws the MS).
Of course not; he stole the Master Sword's power and himself muses that it is powerless against him. I always wondered about the confusion in the NoA text; now I understand that it was a mistranslation and the Master Sword's power could never have affected him.
I like how Lex just outright lies, and ignores the fact that Jumbie translated the ALttP GBA manual, and that the bullshit ONE WORD, a pure semantic point and nothing else, that his theory was resting on, was not present in that translation.
It wasn't the same word, but they're still flocking to the "place that hid the gold" in the creation, so it's not as though the point doesn't apply.
You assume that developer intent regarding ALttP's backstory/the story told by the sages, being the IW/the first appearance of Ganon, has changed.
The IW backstory is exactly the same. It is still ALttP's backstory; just not its immediate backstory. It takes a role similar to the Shadow Clan wars in TP.
The story by the sages is exactly the same, except where it involves the appearance of Ganon in ALttP (I noted that I made this assumption in my list of assumptions).
Like pretending that the manual story of a game, and the in-game backstory, refer to completely different events.
The "two backstory" thing has been done at least three times:
1) TWW- sages' seal is referenced in the manual and immediate backstory; flood seal (unrelated to sages' seal) plays a direct role in the story
2) FSA- Vaati is referenced as Hyrule's threat; Ganon is later revealed to be behind everything (unrelated to Vaati's seal)
3) TP- Shadow Clan is referenced as the cause of the calamities; Ganon is later revealed to be behind everything (unrelated to Shadow Clan)
Why not ALttP?
4) ALttP- Sacred Realm is sealed by the sages in the Imprisoning War, while Agahnim tries to kidnap the maidens to break the seal; Ganon is later revealed to be behind everything (unrelated to Imprisoning War)
Actually, no, there's only one Imprisoning War and one sage's seal on the SR, it just occurs on both timelines, at different points. TP seems to imply that many things of that nature are ultimately fated (look at Ganon's removed ending dialogue).
Removed ending dialogue, yes. You rely on outdated creator intent rather than the most recent quotes.
The KoRL first provided Ganondorfs name, then described the evils he committed in Hyrule, then clarified he was the man spoken of in the ancient legends. Had Link not known the ancient legends, there would be absolutely no need to refer to it.
The ancient legends are
the evils the King describes.
It's even funnier that the new translation shows that the Master Sword's seal was not on Ganondorf, but on the Demon Tribe.
Of course it wasn't. The Master Sword seal couldn't hold him, at least, not for long, because it lacked the power. The translation clarified a long-standing confusion of mine as to how Ganondorf was able to cite imprisonment by a seal cast by an object with no long-standing power over him.