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[Bond Extreme]

God created hell for Satan and the unbeleivers of earth. The only way to prevent going to hell is accept Jesus Christ as your savior. God gives every human on the earth to get the chance to accept Jesus as your savior. The thing is that a lot of people don't wanna beleive in it. God wants everyone to know the truth before dieing and getting screwed.

[Nevermind]

So when exactly do you think God created Hell?


And Selena, according to the whole forgiveness thing, it is during this life that you get your chances. Infinite chances. But when it's over, it's over. No more chances. You choose your fate, so you take it.

[Delphi]

God created hell for Satan and the unbeleivers of earth. The only way to prevent going to hell is accept Jesus Christ as your savior. God gives every human on the earth to get the chance to accept Jesus as your savior. The thing is that a lot of people don't wanna beleive in it. God wants everyone to know the truth before dieing and getting screwed.

What about some tribesman in like Central Africa that has no access to the outside world and is not exposed to the doctrine of Christ? They had no chance in their life and because of the circumstances in which they were born they could have HIV since they were born and lead an extremely short life with NO chance of receiving the gospel. What happens to them? That doesn't sound like they had a chance. Just curious what you think, not inciting a flame war.

[arunma]

Wow, this thread has grown quickly.

[Isis]

So if we believe in your God, no matter how many sins we commit we'd go to Heaven? Sounds like a gimmick for the weak minded to me.

[spunky-monkey]

So basically...we have no purpose, because that is finite? We are wasting our time trying to define why we exist using Man's Logic? God is the beginning and the end so God is above such things as fate and ultimate goal?
*brain dies horribly*

[Mystic Kitsune]

Does this mean if you dont believe in heaven or hell...that you dont end up going to hell? XD *brain dies aswell*

[Isis]

Nope, according to them, you go to the worse of the two places you don't believe in XD

[spunky-monkey]

Hell is what you make it I suppose, you may hate the idea of winding up somewhere at all, but imagine staying there forever. *_*

[Isis]

Uhhuh, forever's a long time.

[spunky-monkey]

Trapped in an office job f-o-r-e-v-e-r...NOOO!

[Mystic Kitsune]

Oh, another thing just occured to me. If hell WAS at the center of the earth, and its says "forever", well then it doesnt make sense for this reason. Scientists predict that eventually the core will cool down stopping the plate movememnt. So if thats going to happen, then it really isnt forever.

Sorry im being stupid x_x

[Isis]

You've got a point XD

Maybe when that does happen, all the heathens would be free! XD

[Nevermind]

So if we believe in your God, no matter how many sins we commit we'd go to Heaven? Sounds like a gimmick for the weak minded to me.

So long as you are truly and honestly repentant for said sins. What exactly a sin is, I cannot say; that's something you have to work out for yourself abiding by your own moral values.

[arunma]

So if we believe in your God, no matter how many sins we commit we'd go to Heaven? Sounds like a gimmick for the weak minded to me.

Sorry, but that isn't how it works. Anyone who is saved will hate sin, and will thus turn away from sinful lifestyles. The process of sanctification is usually slow, but anyone who becomes a Christian will abandon his sins.

[Bond Extreme]

YES YES, arunma! That's true. And anyone who does not become a Christian will go to hell forever. Anyone who admits that the Jesus died for us and is our savior will automatically not go to hell. Instead of going to hell for eternal life you get the grace of going to Heaven for eternal life. In heaven there is absolutely no sin. It is perfect and you will stay there forever.

[Showsni]

If you sin, you go to hell. Everyone has sinned, therefore everyone will go to hell. However, Jesus didn't sin, so He didn't have to go to hell. But He went anyway, in place of those us us who do deserve to go there - all we have to do is acknowledge that He paid our debt.

I suppose that you could not sin at all and avoid hell too... But that would be very hard to do.

[Bond Extreme]

All sinners do not go to hell. Anyone who accepts Jesus as their savior will then be graced by Jesus forgiving their sins. Jesus died on the cross for everyones sins therefor when you become saved he will then forgive all of your sins.

[wisp]

You didn't read what he said past the first line, did you?

[31-Year-Old-From-Georgia]

So, Bond, are you expecting Hitler to great you once you get to Heaven?

[Delphi]

My question still hasn't been answered directly...

[spunky-monkey]

Originally Posted by Bond Extreme  
Anyone who admits that the Jesus died for us and is our savior will automatically not go to hell.

Not quite true I'm a Christian, yet out of anger and depression I said terrible things to God (venial sin). So now I'm screwed...Being a Christian cannot stop Satan nor can it purge you of original sin.

[Bond Extreme]

Sinners do not go to hell. Everyone sins. If your a follower of christ yeah you sin, but your not going to hell.

and Ricky Jesus forgives everyones sins. Thats the one of the greatest things about him.

[31-Year-Old-From-Georgia]

I love how Bond just totally ignores our questions and comments.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Sinners do not go to hell. Everyone sins. If your a follower of christ yeah you sin, but your not going to hell.

and Ricky Jesus forgives everyones sins. Thats the one of the greatest things about him.

So he'd forgive you for not believing in him?

[Chikara Nadir]

My question still hasn't been answered directly...

Funny, I hadn't even seen your question, but I was gonna ask about the same thing as you were. XD

Where there are places in the world that know nothing about western religion, is it their fault for not believing? Are they going to hell for not believing in and following God's rules- simply because they don't know what those rules or this god are? What if they live in a place so basely concentrated on surviving in the same way that they have for thousands of years that they don't even really know what law is, let alone disobediance of law?

And that goes into one of the most controversial questions of our own culture- if a child dies before they are old enough to accept Christ and fully understand the meaning of accepting him, will that child go to hell for being an unbeliever?

[Bond Extreme]

So he'd forgive you for not believing in him?

If you would pay attention you would know.

[31-Year-Old-From-Georgia]

Bond, could you please respond to Chik's and Delph's question? It really brings up a controversy if your opinions were correct.

[Korhend]

So, Bond, are you expecting Hitler to great you once you get to Heaven?

Hitler wasn't christian though.

Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of human failure."

"Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless— A negro with his taboos is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in transubstantiation."

"Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone, and it is the Jew who, thanks to this diabolic invention, has thrown him back fifteen centuries.

"It is a great pity that this tendency towards religious thought can find no better outlet than the Jewish pettifoggery of the Old Testament; for a religious Folk who, in the solitude of winter, continually seek ultimate light on their religious problems with the assistance of the Bible, must eventually become spiritually deformed. The wretched Folk strive to extract truths from these Jewish chicaneries, where in fact no truths exist. As a result they become embedded in some rut of thought and, unless they possess an exceptionally commonsense mind, degenerate into religious maniacs."

Theres more, but I really don't like to quote Adolf Shicklegrubber.