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[SOAP]

Soap thhat is ridiculous. No one could investigate heaven and the temperture. Heaven is undescribable and can never be investigated from the technology we have on earth. Heaven has nothing to do with the sun or the moon. Its in a totally different place. Its a spiritual place.

And Ricky of course hell is apart of God. God created it. And I'm not going to say the way to not go to hell. Everyone would then argue about it and I'm not up for that.

The article is meant to be a joke. The creators say so themselves.

Even still, at least they noted their sources unlike the article you posted. The pot calling the kettle black...

[Bond Extreme]

Even if that article was considered a joke it sounds so dumb.

[RevolutionDude]

Hell and Heaven exist... but not under our feet or on top of the clouds...
They are not even other dimensions...
They are places God made for unbelivers and for belivers.

EDIT: when i read this I was like, what the hell!... literally!

[Bond Extreme]

Now even if Revolution is being sarcastic that is still true. Though I am still having trouble on where hell is located. I have a huge devotional bible where you can look up so many things. I found hell in there and it gave me a lot of different verses where to find it talking about hell. Right now I have just looked up half of the verses on there. Still non of them tell me where hell is.

[Selena]

Even if that article was considered a joke it sounds so dumb.

And your article wasn't?

[spunky-monkey]

They are places God made for unbelivers and for belivers.

God made an evil place? I really find that hard to believe. A loving God cannot associate himself with anything that is evil. It's true God created Satan, but he rebelled and rejected God, thus he spawned the evil trinity of Satan, Sin & Death...not God.

As bad as it sounds we seem to have two images of God, one a loving creator, the other a wrathful, vengeful, stereotype God...

[Bond Extreme]

Well, Ricky God made hell for the people who do not beleive in him.

And, Selena of course my article was dumb I posted. I found it was not true after I posted it.

[RevolutionDude]

God made hell to for a punishment... you wouldnt think a punishment would be nice wouldnt you? so that is why its like that...

[SOAP]

Except it wasn't a punishment designed for us. It was designed for Satan and all his angels. Satan just drags us there.

*takes off religious hat*

[spunky-monkey]

How can God knowingly make something evil? Sin and Punishment are evil.

[Selena]

Not that I'm Christian or anything.... but how are you to punish wrong do-ers if you don't have some kind of negative place involved? Shall God tell them 'no no' and smack them with a rolled up newspaper?


My idea of a Judeo-Christian hell, without all the Dante's Inferno stuff, was that you spent time in your own private hell (on a different plane), until you've learned the error of your ways and are ready to ascend to heaven. God is supposedly about redemption, so I don't think he would want them to stay there for eternity if they change their mindset.


Except for Lucifer and his pals. They get to keep surfing on those lakes of fire.


Personally, I'm more afraid of heaven. I have a feeling it's gonna be like the South Park version. However, I guess I'm glad I believe in neither of them. Resurrection all the way, biatch!

[RevolutionDude]

^ you are suposed to have all your earthly life to think about you sins and then believe

[Delphi]

Well think of it this way. There is opposition in everything. Up and down, light and dark, blah blah blah. So we have God's presence and light. That is Heaven. On the flip side, we've got the absence of God's presence and light, IE: Hell. God did not CREATE Hell, but since I believe that God abides by the laws of Nature (he just has a greater understanding of them than we do. And if God is "the same yesturday, today and forever" or however the quote goes, he cannot break or change these rules at whim or he would not be the same) there must be an opposite of his kingdom.

And if God is our Father in Heaven and we are his children, don't parents need to chastise their child ever once and a while? I don't believe that's what Hell is for, but I think it explains things like the destruction of Soddom and Gomora.

Then again, I'm only a mere mortal speculating on the omnipotant God so I'm gonna quit while I'm behind!

[spunky-monkey]

Originally Posted by Selena  
Personally, I'm more afraid of heaven.

Strange, I feel that way too. That brings up the issue of how can people love and fear God at the same time...

Originally Posted by Delphi  
God abides by the laws of Nature

God is above Nature. Nothing is impossible for God...which puzzles me as to why Hell must exist in the first place...

[Delphi]

^ you are suposed to have all your earthly life to think about you sins and then believe

What about those who didn't have a chance to learn of God? Do they just get to sit and rot because they were born where they weren't exposed to the gospel? I personally think a just God wouldn't let that happen.


EDIT: I'm saying that if God created nature and the laws of Nature than he must abide by them. Nothing is impossible for God, but I do think he abides by the laws that he has created. God breaking his own rules wouldn't set a very good example, ne? He just has a better understanding of the rules and can work with them in ways we can't even comprehend.

[RevolutionDude]

God created Hell for Satan to live an everlasting punishment along with everyone who dont believe.

[spunky-monkey]

You got a very good point; if those rules were broken then the very Universe would collapse. Of course that’s of no threat to God - but it wouldn't glorify him in the slightest if it did happen...

[Delphi]

You got a very good point; if those rules were broken then the very Universe would collapse. Of course that’s of no threat to God - but it wouldn't glorify him in the slightest if it did happen...

Tee hee! Exactly!

And I still say that saying God created Hell is like saying I created darkness by turning off the light.

[Selena]

Oh, yeah, that'd be a great thing to add to a god's resume.



God: "You know, I'm getting pretty sick of hell. I think I'll just get rid of it."
Angel 1: "I really wouldn't do that."
God: "Who's the god here, huh? You wanna wear the god pants in this family?"
Angel 1: "Well, no, not really... but..."
God: "Then do me a favor and stfu."
Angel 2: "But what about the rules of the universe! For light, there must be dark!"
God: "I wrote those rules, didn't I?"
Angel 2: "Well, yes, but..."
God: "Go get me the biblical nukes. I'm sending Lucy a present."
Angel 2: "You know he doesn't like to be called that."
God: "That's the point."

*god nukes Hell*
*destroys it*
*fabric of the universe collapses*
*everything except god destroyed*


God: "Um... whoops. Time to reformat. Noooobody saw that, right?"

[Delphi]

Oh, yeah, that'd be a great thing to add to a god's resume.



God: "You know, I'm getting pretty sick of hell. I think I'll just get rid of it."
Angel 1: "I really wouldn't do that."
God: "Who's the god here, huh? You wanna wear the god pants in this family?"
Angel 1: "Well, no, not really... but..."
God: "Then do me a favor and stfu."
Angel 2: "But what about the rules of the universe! For light, there must be dark!"
God: "I wrote those rules, didn't I?"
Angel 2: "Well, yes, but..."
God: "Go get me the biblical nukes. I'm sending Lucy a present."
Angel 2: "You know he doesn't like to be called that."
God: "That's the point."

*god nukes Hell*
*destroys it*
*fabric of the universe collapses*
*everything except god destroyed*


God: "Um... whoops. Time to reformat. Noooobody saw that, right?"

:rotfl: Lucy...XD

[RevolutionDude]

^ i'm not even gonna say anything...

[spunky-monkey]

Looking at this whole 'Hell' thing I just realized that to God, we are just creations. Satan was one of God's children (angels). If God condemns his own angels then I suppose a few billion humans mean nothing then...

[Alakhriveion]

Judeo-Christian hell

Ain't no damn "Judeo-Christian" anything.

[Delphi]

Unless you believe that we are the literal children of God. *shrug*

[spunky-monkey]

God chooses us, not the other way around I'm afraid. Anyway, after an Eternity or two what would the purpose of Hell be then? Nothing that I can think of...a spare room perhaps? Heheh, the more we talk about 'Hell' the more we realize it’s all meaningless.

[31-Year-Old-From-Georgia]

Oh, yeah, that'd be a great thing to add to a god's resume.



God: "You know, I'm getting pretty sick of hell. I think I'll just get rid of it."
Angel 1: "I really wouldn't do that."
God: "Who's the god here, huh? You wanna wear the god pants in this family?"
Angel 1: "Well, no, not really... but..."
God: "Then do me a favor and stfu."
Angel 2: "But what about the rules of the universe! For light, there must be dark!"
God: "I wrote those rules, didn't I?"
Angel 2: "Well, yes, but..."
God: "Go get me the biblical nukes. I'm sending Lucy a present."
Angel 2: "You know he doesn't like to be called that."
God: "That's the point."

*god nukes Hell*
*destroys it*
*fabric of the universe collapses*
*everything except god destroyed*


God: "Um... whoops. Time to reformat. Noooobody saw that, right?"

*Literally fell onto the floor laughing at that*

Anywayz... if I did believe in Heaven and all, the main concern I would have is if I could continue watching my favorite shows and our Earthly things. I don't want to just drop something as important as television.

[Selena]

How does that one saying go? Heaven gets good satellite feeds of all stations, and hell only gets PBS? XP

[Delphi]

Dude...that WOULD be Hell!!!!

[Nevermind]

*Literally fell onto the floor laughing at that*

Anywayz... if I did believe in Heaven and all, the main concern I would have is if I could continue watching my favorite shows and our Earthly things. I don't want to just drop something as important as television.

You're gonna die anyway, bud. Expect it.

[Doopliss]

*Literally fell onto the floor laughing at that*

Are you being sarcastic, or is it that I didn't get the joke?