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#1 Bond Extreme

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 02:16 PM

Any of you who don't beleive in hell should read this. http://amightywind.c...aboutsounds.htm

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 03:03 PM

And why exactly, did the Soviet Union can the project? Its a planned Economy and an aethiest government? In the very least, if the soviets believed it, they would have studied it. However,
http://www.truthorfi...llingtohell.htm
http://www.truthorfi...tohellfacts.htm
Poor Kremlinology. You have in fact, fell for a red herring.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 08:44 PM

That website reminds me of one of those booths at the fair that advertise "3-headed cow inside!" and make you pay five dollars to get in, where you find yourself staring at a picture of a 3-headed cow which may or may not be real.

They're drilling into the earth, and find heat, fire, and sounds that remind them of human screaming? Well, let's think about this. They're drilling into a layer of magma inside the planet. Magma is hot, so that explains the heat and fire... and of course the air escaping through the holes drilled in the ground would produce a high-pitched "screaming" sound. A tea kettle does the same thing.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 08:51 PM

.....................Bond. You REALLY can't be serious about this.

If you are...I'm just not even going there.

This is a joke, right?

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 09:05 PM

Sadly, I don't think it is a joke, Delphi. ;_;

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 09:06 PM

I don't believe in a hell, but if I did I always pictured it as being a figurative place in another dimension or something. Not literally at the center of the earth underground.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 09:13 PM

OK, let's get serious here. If you can drill into hell, that means you can rescue souls from hell by a physical means. If hell were inside the earth, that would indeed be happy news to unbelievers! One day, humans could open the gates of hell, and release the prisoners. This would betray the Biblical statement that those who reject our Lord Jesus Christ will be cast into everlasting fire, and will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 09:14 PM

Hey I listened to the sounds. It's funny, that 'woman' who is 'screaming' does the exact same scream, and the exact same interval. It just sounds so natural, and unedited :|

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 09:52 PM

Ok well now I know that article I posted is now fake. I do though still believe in hell being in the center of the earth. And arunma that would be impossible. When people die they leave there human bodies behind. And when they get to hell that is there souls (spirit) . So it would be impossible to save them. And the bible says once your there your there and there is no escape. So even if we did somehow manage to drill into hell we would't even be able to see them.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 09:53 PM

Mmmm. Tabloid tasty.


I'm with Flint. If there's a hell, I would imagine both it (and heaven) to be on entirely separate dimensions of existence.




Kinda like Event Horizon.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 09:58 PM

Yeah. I always pictured Hell as existing on another plane as well, but not necessarily a firey, overheated one. I think Hell is more... a place that is completely devoid of any contact with God.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 09:59 PM

OK, let's get serious here. If you can drill into hell, that means you can rescue souls from hell by a physical means. If hell were inside the earth, that would indeed be happy news to unbelievers! One day, humans could open the gates of hell, and release the prisoners. This would betray the Biblical statement that those who reject our Lord Jesus Christ will be cast into everlasting fire, and will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

In that way, even I can turn my telephone into a god.

Back to Topic, Bond, you have just gone far this time. Do you intend to insult our intelligence? That article is completely ridiculous. I won't give further explanation unless it's really needed, which I would doubt with other people.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 10:19 PM

Unless it happened to turn out to be real...that way all you would be screwed and bond would be right.

But that recording, sounded more like the malfunction of machinery, because back when I was in Osaka, with my father at a car manufacturing facillity, one of the machiens broke down, making those exact same sounds. So yeah, it mustve been a malfunction in the drill or something...or it couldve been a lazy worker playing a practical joke to stop the project...XD Oh well

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 10:42 PM

Yeah. I always pictured Hell as existing on another plane as well, but not necessarily a firey, overheated one. I think Hell is more... a place that is completely devoid of any contact with God.


I agree. I also think it's more of a state of mind. Like being so wracked with guilt that you wish you could just wink out of existance.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 10:48 PM

Yeah... if anyone's seen the movie What Dreams May Come, that gives a pretty accurate picture of my impression of Hell.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 11:47 PM

^ Oh come on, it wasn't that bad. It was better than Matrix Reloaded.

(kidding)

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 12:25 AM

Frankly, my religious side would prefer to think of the afterlife in more of a Jewish sense- we die, we stay dead, and we go just about nowhere until the Messiah comes again and decides what to do with us. At least, that's what I figure most people in the time of Jesus and before then pictured the afterlife to be like (at least unless God found them worthy of going elsewhere) - much like in the epic of Gilgamesh, where they constantly speak of going to a land of darkness where you have nothing to eat but dirt. Just...darkness, emptiness, loneliness, three things that the social human animal detests by nature.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 12:34 AM

I think it's kind of like that. Not necessarily fiery, but rather a place where that which brings you the most suffering is inflicted upon you again and again, and you never, ever, get used to it. It's something that digs deeper than mere physical pain. It rips into your soul, and drives you to the point where you would wish for death that would never come, and would be right on the verge of insanity, but not quite tipping; remaining sane enough to feel pain and suffering and know what it is.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 12:42 AM

Are you guys high or something? Hell is right beneath our feet and that article proves it. In fact, not only that but Satan is a fat, naked red guy with horns and giant pitchfork. And God is a balding white dude and he and his angels live in heaven which is another earth built right ontop of the clouds. Honestly people. Don't you watch cartoons?

Don't let these foolish unbelievers deter you, Bond. ;)

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 01:21 AM

I can't believe this. A 2nd person on the forums that actually agrees with me on this.:D Thanks, Soap.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 01:27 AM

Unfortunately, he was being sarcastic. ;)

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 01:36 AM

You had to shatter Bonds spirit didn't you Lena? I see hell as a place without love, laughter, tears and emotion. I see it as a greyscale eternity, nothing but dullness forever. Peopel speak like history teachers , in that dull monotonus voice. Thats hell.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 01:42 AM

Yes, Lena likes raining on people's parade. Oh well, that's Lena for you.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 01:47 AM

It's my job in life. Yes. ;)

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:06 AM

Unfortunately, he was being sarcastic.  ;)


And I was also being sarcastic.;) Its kinda hard to beleive there are any people here that would actually agree with me, exept Brian the Hedgehog. Its pretty sad.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:08 AM

My parade never gets rained on. I'm in the band.

I remember hearing this story a while back. I remembered it not too long ago and researched it, mainly to see if I heard the story correctly. I stumbled upon the site that Korhend posted. However, it makes a pretty good Haloween story if your audience hasn't heard it before.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:11 AM

It's my job in life. Yes.

Yes. And far be it for me to try and take it from you.

Anyways. What do I think about hell? Well, to quote the Ring 2, everyone has their own version of hell. Some see it as a fiery underworld. Others see it as a cold, desolate world void of any light. I think Lena's reference to Event Horizon is probably the best intepretaion of hell there is: a totally different dimension filled with chaos and destruction. Persoanlly, assuming it even exists wherever it exists, I think it's a whole heck of [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img] cooler than Heaven.

Evidence: http://www.lhup.edu/...imanek/hell.htm

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 04:45 AM

This is one bad joke.
Hell...even if it does exist is, accordingly to modern theology is 'a state of separation from God'. If you are full of sin and reject Jesus then God will reject you, it's that simple. Hell is not a "place" it is a state, same applies to Heaven. A pure God does not (or cannot) create evil things.
Actually I just realized something, if Hell is to be apart from the Almighty God, then consider us all already in 'Hell' then...

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 12:03 PM

Soap thhat is ridiculous. No one could investigate heaven and the temperture. Heaven is undescribable and can never be investigated from the technology we have on earth. Heaven has nothing to do with the sun or the moon. Its in a totally different place. Its a spiritual place.

And Ricky of course hell is apart of God. God created it. And I'm not going to say the way to not go to hell. Everyone would then argue about it and I'm not up for that.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 12:20 PM

OK, let's get serious here. If you can drill into hell, that means you can rescue souls from hell by a physical means. If hell were inside the earth, that would indeed be happy news to unbelievers! One day, humans could open the gates of hell, and release the prisoners. This would betray the Biblical statement that those who reject our Lord Jesus Christ will be cast into everlasting fire, and will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Arun, you ALMOST figured it out. Here's the truth:

After Stalin died the USSR embarked on a top-secret project to burrow in to Hell and recover him. As you can see from that article Bond posted, they were somewhat succesful, but could not recover Uncle Joe himself. Soon after, however, four people appeared, each claiming to be Stalin: One, without superpowers, wearing a suit of power-armour complete with the "S" symbol, a cyborg claiming to be Stalin himself, A young Stalin claiming to be a clone of the original, and and Energy Being called the Last Son of Russia, who said he had previously been Stalin. The cyborg turned out to be evil, and the real Stalin reemerged from his Kryptonian birthing matrix to put the rest in their respective places.




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