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#31 Mystic Kitsune

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 06:38 PM

Probably not...i seriously think the game designers wouldnt bother for accuracy, they make it more for the fun, and not the torment of wasting time and looking for accurate details related to OoT.

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 06:39 PM

Could you restate that, GJ? I'm not sure I understood the wording.

Alright, alright. Lets just get back on track, okay?  

We have been for a while, except that You and that other guy began to talk about TP...

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 06:50 PM

I was curious about Outset's previous placement in OoT Hyrule, and whether Fire Mountain (where you get the Power Bracelets) is or was part of Death Mountain.

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 06:57 PM

I don't think Outset was supposed to have been a place in OoT, it was original to TWW. (Which, for the record, I believe about most of the islands)

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 07:55 PM

Speaking of that... if TP comes after OoT, and befor TWW, then does the TP show the gods flooding Hyrule in the end?

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 08:01 PM

Maybe...maybe not. Well have to wait until the game comes out.

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 10:08 PM

Dragon Roost Island, Forest Haven, and Windfall were already mentioned, although have you noticed that Death Mountain has been replaced by 2 vocanoes, dragon roost and fire mountain?

Outset island is in the southwest. Lake Hylia was in the southwest. Lake hylia had two islands in the middle that look very much like Outset island. outset=lake hylia.

the forsaken fortress is a bit north of where gerudo valley was, but not greatly.

as for Jabun, Lord Jabu-Jabu could have swum across the ocean to Greatfish isle very easily. after all, he's a whale!

zora's domain could possibly have turned into the ice island, which would explain why it never thaws in OoT-- in never does, even centuries later! however, it is located pretty far from where zora's domain should be.

here's a problem, though. Windfall is the market, right? then how is Hyrule Castle under the Tower of the Gods? the Tower is way south of Windfall. it could be that the similarities are just inside referenced to OoT, and don't have any real significance. which would explain how low land became islands.

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 12:16 PM

Good investigative work TR. I wouldn't be suprised if the WW team used that sort of idea. Post any other connections you notice if there are any.

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 12:35 PM

I have one. Since Zoras Domainwould remain frozen forever, wouldent the ice island be the ice cavern where Link would get his iron boots. I mean, come on, Zoras Domain is located a bit beneath the ice cavern.

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 01:16 PM

I have one. Since Zoras Domainwould remain frozen forever, wouldent the ice island be the ice cavern where Link would get his iron boots. I mean, come on, Zoras Domain is located a bit beneath the ice cavern.

But that's not concrete enough to explain why any game would be a direct sequal to OoT. Sure, it may suggest a certain game comes after it, but it doesn't tell us how much longer afterwards.

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 01:33 PM

How about pinnacle island. Lots of people say thats proof of the under world. Come on look. Miyamoto wouldent create the WW for nothing. It has to follow the story line. Now that I think of it, Nintendo knows things that we don't, unexplainable, and weird. It is up to the players to find out Hyruls true past. There are things we ourselves have not found out in the world of Hyrule. If we want to find out how the Great Sea began or its theory, we need to keep this thread alive so that we can get as much information as we can for solving Hyrules past, and atleast find its obvious remains in the overworld.

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 02:00 PM

How about pinnacle island. Lots of people say thats proof of the under world. Come on look. Miyamoto wouldent create the WW for nothing. It has to follow the story line. Now that I think of it, Nintendo knows things that we don't, unexplainable, and weird. It is up to the players to find out Hyruls true past. There are things we  ourselves have not found out in the world of Hyrule. If we want to find out how the Great Sea began or its theory, we need to keep this thread alive so that we can get as much information as we can for solving Hyrules past, and atleast find its obvious remains in the overworld.

Miyamoto didn't have much of a hand in WW, but there are explinations for how WW ties in. There's a quote by Anouma (main guy behind WW) that I feel says it all. He explains that there were 2 endings and that WW is placed after the Adult ending of OoT. I see this as fitting perfectly with the timeline split, with WW coming after Adult Link ending of OoT, and aLttP coming after the Child Link ending. This would also explain how both OoT and aLttP are sequals to OoT without contradicting one another.

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 02:03 PM

(shudders)... Remains, there must be remains. That is the mistery.

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 02:14 PM

Another connection that I have found is that maybe Forsaken Fortress could be located where Gerudo's Fortress was because Tetra mentions that a group of rival pirates formerly lived there, so they could be the descendants from the Gerudos.

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 02:35 PM

Rubbish!...sorry... Forsaken fortress is not the location of Gerudo fortress because it was located south west of Hyrule.

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 03:12 PM

Not, because the compass rose in OoT's map shows that the real north is right from the map's north, so since Gerudo's Fortress is located between the west and the north-west, in TWW it would be located between the north-west and the north.

By the way, could you find something less rude than rubbish? ;)

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 03:27 PM

I don't think it's a coincidence that the Gerudo's Fortress and the forsaken fortress are both northwest of Hyrule, the Gerudo's Terminian doubles would be pirates, the Forsaken Fortress used to be the hideout of a certain group of pirates, AND Ganon, who just happens to be a Gerudo, put his base there. And that "Well OoT had the sun so it's compass must be the one with true North" doesn't work because WW HAS a sun.

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 05:57 PM

*Checks the map of OoT with the compass on it*

...Gerudo Fortress is due west of Hyrule Castle. No north or south about it. Due west.

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 07:18 PM

Well, if you look closely, the map for Wind Waker is a lot bigger than the map of Hyrule in Ocarina. It's possible that some of the islands are things that you couldn't get to because of the game's barriers, and that the "existed" outside the game world.

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Posted 19 August 2005 - 12:14 AM

Since Zoras Domainwould remain frozen forever

Zora's domain does not remain frozen forever. In the OoT credits we see it unfrozen.

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Posted 19 August 2005 - 12:41 AM

And Ruto says that it will be restored to its original state.

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Posted 19 August 2005 - 05:57 PM

That is once Link has gone through time seven years back to find that the domain was unfrozen.

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Posted 19 August 2005 - 06:15 PM

That is once Link has gone through time seven years back to find that the domain was unfrozen.

The credits take place in the future. During the credits we see all the characters as you see them when your an adult. When you see zora's domain in the credits the king is not there because he is in Lon Lon ranch.

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Posted 19 August 2005 - 06:54 PM

No, no, no you got it all wrong. In the end Link finds himself as a kid again, and thats where the celebration takes place. Zelda brought him back through time, and the part that showed the all the sages were just spirits, but not the actual species Link would have seen if it was for the time portal.

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Posted 19 August 2005 - 06:59 PM

During the Lon Lon party we see Malon and Epona as adults.

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Posted 19 August 2005 - 07:43 PM

The celebrations definately happen during Adult Link's time and not Child Link's time.

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Posted 19 August 2005 - 07:51 PM

Fine you got me there but thats not the point. THe point is of Hyrules history. Lets start from the beginning.

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Posted 19 August 2005 - 07:52 PM

Fine you got me there but thats not the point. The point is of Hyrules history. Lets start from the beginning.

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Posted 19 August 2005 - 07:53 PM

The celebrations definately happen during Adult Link's time and not Child Link's time.

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Posted 19 August 2005 - 08:02 PM

Whats wrong with these page errors? They seem to happen sometimes, but I don't know why.

Don't worry about it. Happens to the best of us. :) Try to delete the posts you don't want though.

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