I hope they got rid of the numbers when diving under water, i want an H2o bar or oxygen, and i hope that once it goes down you dont have to go back up the serfice.
That and i want to see the new style of gibdo/redead cause you know there the most "loved" enemy ever. Thats what i thought the ghosts in the sewer were at first. I hope there [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img] badder and [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img] more powerful.
NEW ZELDA TRAILER!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 10 March 2005 - 08:40 PM
It seems totally awesome. I don't know why you would say it was LotR-ish, but even if it was, who cares? It's still gonna be fun!
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Posted 10 March 2005 - 08:42 PM
Ah yes cats. I don't have speakers and my computer's crappy. I thought they was canine.
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Posted 10 March 2005 - 09:04 PM
This=teh win. Period.
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Posted 10 March 2005 - 09:21 PM
I love it. <3
If anybody hates this may they burn in Hell...
If anybody hates this may they burn in Hell...
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Posted 10 March 2005 - 09:45 PM
*dies of sheer OMG*
THE WOLFOS ARE BAAAAACK! WOOOOOOOOOO!
I can die happy. *is blown away*
THE WOLFOS ARE BAAAAACK! WOOOOOOOOOO!
I can die happy. *is blown away*
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Posted 10 March 2005 - 09:51 PM
First off let Link talk in the boxs and this is a little idea so stay with me
The Link from TWW should meet the Ghost of The Link from Oot.
That whould be a good little cut scene.
The Link from TWW should meet the Ghost of The Link from Oot.
That whould be a good little cut scene.
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Posted 10 March 2005 - 09:57 PM
Does anyone else think/hope that the boomerang throwing baboon might be an updated version of the Goriya? They were always more like rat creatures in the old days (LoZ and AoL), but given the way that the morphology of the enemies change quite drastically in other games (Toucan Wizrobe, Pig Moblin vs Bulldog Moblin, etc) it might be possible.
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Posted 10 March 2005 - 10:09 PM
Well, I don't want Link to talk for one thing, for another, if OoT Link is at ALL involved...RESERVE ME A COPY!
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Posted 10 March 2005 - 10:38 PM
AHHH!!!!
I must have now. I'm going to watch the trailer over and over and over and over and over and over and over until I buy the game. Even if the game sucks the trailers are freaking awesome.
But I seriously doubt the game will suck. I was rather pleased with MC, so hopefully this will be story-propelled as well. Geez....I need to let my breathing settle.
I must have now. I'm going to watch the trailer over and over and over and over and over and over and over until I buy the game. Even if the game sucks the trailers are freaking awesome.
But I seriously doubt the game will suck. I was rather pleased with MC, so hopefully this will be story-propelled as well. Geez....I need to let my breathing settle.
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Posted 10 March 2005 - 11:50 PM
in the graveyard scene, at about the 31 second mark, when Link uses his sword I believe, the screen lights up and you can make out some Hylian Text on a tombstone...
Someone translate it!!!
Someone translate it!!!
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Posted 10 March 2005 - 11:52 PM
Another point of, er, interest I suppose.. what's with the nappy on the Goron? The jock strap thing looks kind of odd... actually, the Goron in general looked a little goofy.
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Posted 10 March 2005 - 11:53 PM
since Goron's are "better rendered," rather than being just blobish now, they gotta cover up their "genitalia"
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 12:05 AM
I don't think Gorons were ever ment to have visible genitalia though, but I suppose that could be an excuse...
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 01:28 AM
This thing looks even more LOTRish than the last one. I mean look at those ghosts, they could have been taken right out of the ROTK movie. The moss giant thing does seem sort of original, and the animal transformation could be pretty cool, but other than that, I see allot of LOTR in it. As to the graphical style, somebody said it earlier: use space world original trailer graphics. This look far darker and grittier than space world, and frankly I think that the darker style tends to accent pixilization and polygon corners more than a brighter style.
However, I'm not going to be too doom and gloomy. As much as this game may be like LOTR, the next Zelda will not. Think about it, apart from some of the gameboy games, every single Zelda had its own distinct style. They might each have the same story, characters, locations, items, etc. but each is almost as different as possible wile staying within those boundaries. Zelda has achieved the ultimate sequel success by having no two games be the same.
However, I'm not going to be too doom and gloomy. As much as this game may be like LOTR, the next Zelda will not. Think about it, apart from some of the gameboy games, every single Zelda had its own distinct style. They might each have the same story, characters, locations, items, etc. but each is almost as different as possible wile staying within those boundaries. Zelda has achieved the ultimate sequel success by having no two games be the same.
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 02:24 AM
This is the most amazing thing I've seen since Metal Gear Solid 3. Amazing amazing amazing. My favorite parts are the cat-toting (probably part of some side quest), the ghosts in the catacombs, and the Gohma chase.
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 04:09 AM
I thought the trailer was very cool. Not as jaw-dropping as the first, because now we already know what the graphics are like, but still very interesting. I'm intrigued by a few things: mainly, why is Link fighting a Goron, and the wolf at the end. It feels to me that the ending is some kind of hint, maybe the game has a wolf theme. I hope, however, that Link does not turn into a warewolf. Warewolves are evil, so this does not sit with my ideas of the Hero Link, and it seems completely un-Zelda-ish. I'm not even too keen with the idea of Link being able to transform into a wolf. I like Link best when he's human, and we had plenty of transformations in Majora's Mask.
I may have said this before on this forum, but I'm so sick of people trying to draw parallels between Zelda and Lord of the Rings. When the LOTR movies first came out, people started saying, "If they make a Zelda movie, Orlando Bloom HAS to play Link. Legolas looks JUST LIKE Link!" Not true! Okay, there is some sort of fire monster in the first trailer. That doesn't mean it's a Balrog. It's been a while since I saw the movie, but I don't think they really look the same, apart from the black-and-fire look. When Link was running from the spider, I didn't think of Shelob. In fact, I actually thought of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - the game of which I played a few months ago. It reminded me of fighting Aragog. When the HP movie came out, I didn't hear screams of "Aragog is just like Shelob!". Yes, Zelda and LoTR are both fantasy. So what. Just cuz LoTR is popular right now, many people seem to want Zelda to go in this direction. Well guess what? They are completely different series. And if Zelda did take a turn towards LoTR, I'd cry. Nintendo would be making a foolish decision, cuz all they could ever make is a crappy LoTR ripoff. No sir, please let's keep Zelda the unique, amazing, legendary series it is. If you want LoTR, go watch the movies again :roll:
In the old trailer, Link was fighting what was clearly a Balrog
I may have said this before on this forum, but I'm so sick of people trying to draw parallels between Zelda and Lord of the Rings. When the LOTR movies first came out, people started saying, "If they make a Zelda movie, Orlando Bloom HAS to play Link. Legolas looks JUST LIKE Link!" Not true! Okay, there is some sort of fire monster in the first trailer. That doesn't mean it's a Balrog. It's been a while since I saw the movie, but I don't think they really look the same, apart from the black-and-fire look. When Link was running from the spider, I didn't think of Shelob. In fact, I actually thought of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - the game of which I played a few months ago. It reminded me of fighting Aragog. When the HP movie came out, I didn't hear screams of "Aragog is just like Shelob!". Yes, Zelda and LoTR are both fantasy. So what. Just cuz LoTR is popular right now, many people seem to want Zelda to go in this direction. Well guess what? They are completely different series. And if Zelda did take a turn towards LoTR, I'd cry. Nintendo would be making a foolish decision, cuz all they could ever make is a crappy LoTR ripoff. No sir, please let's keep Zelda the unique, amazing, legendary series it is. If you want LoTR, go watch the movies again :roll:
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 04:51 AM
Has anyone else noticed the complete lack of a Heads-Up Display? I sure wish it could stay that way. It's so nice to just see the scenery and action withough the big button icons covering the corners and map that just refuses to stay put away.
Now, where are you guys getting the impression that animal transformation is going on? I saw no indication of this. If the theme has anything to do with controlling animals, I would expect it to be more like Wind Waker, in that you can "spiritually commune" to control them. It's possible there's transforming, of course, I just didn't see it.
That was my first thought, too. Later I wondered if it's just a one time encounter with a helpful monkey, like Kiki in Link to the Past (if Kiki tried to kill you to death with a boomerang).
That moment with the "moss giant" is so Miyazaki to me. I'm so glad Legola--I mean Link... can ride the Warg--I mean boars! Excitement!
Now, where are you guys getting the impression that animal transformation is going on? I saw no indication of this. If the theme has anything to do with controlling animals, I would expect it to be more like Wind Waker, in that you can "spiritually commune" to control them. It's possible there's transforming, of course, I just didn't see it.
Does anyone else think/hope that the boomerang throwing baboon might be an updated version of the Goriya? They were always more like rat creatures in the old days (LoZ and AoL), but given the way that the morphology of the enemies change quite drastically in other games (Toucan Wizrobe, Pig Moblin vs Bulldog Moblin, etc) it might be possible.
That was my first thought, too. Later I wondered if it's just a one time encounter with a helpful monkey, like Kiki in Link to the Past (if Kiki tried to kill you to death with a boomerang).
That moment with the "moss giant" is so Miyazaki to me. I'm so glad Legola--I mean Link... can ride the Warg--I mean boars! Excitement!
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 05:36 AM
It's unfair to say this zelda is ripping off lotr...
1: Everyone has ripped off lotr since it was just a book many many years ago (elves were not considered "elegant" and "pretty" till that book set us straight)
2: It's beautiful, judge it as its own medium!
3: Even if it is a complete ripoff of lotr, so what, lotr ruled, zelda rules, it's win-win...
1: Everyone has ripped off lotr since it was just a book many many years ago (elves were not considered "elegant" and "pretty" till that book set us straight)
2: It's beautiful, judge it as its own medium!
3: Even if it is a complete ripoff of lotr, so what, lotr ruled, zelda rules, it's win-win...
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But the point is that Zelda is NOT ripping off LoTR >:-( If they did, it would certainly *not* be a win-win. Everyone would start going on that LoTR did whatever got ripped off better, cuz it's the original. And that's usually the case with anything original that gets ripped off. So why should Zelda, a series that has constantly been raising the bar for video gaming for nearly 20 years suddenly fall back into a cheap rip-off? The very idea makes me sick. I'd be pissed off if Zelda ripped anything off, not just LoTR. Anyway, LoTR bores the crap out of me; Zelda doesn't. So there must be something different <.<
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 07:40 AM
I don't know if this has already been mentioned but has anyone noticed the markings on the back of the spider that wraps its legs around Link? Looks like we're going to see a redesigned Skulltulla.
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 08:43 AM
First of all, there's a difference between ripoff and inspiration. They're two very different things. Ripoffs tend to be a blatant copy of the original, inspiration pulls themes out of the original, reinterpret them and put them into your own world. There's no doubt that in a couple of the scenes, you can clearly see inspiration, especially from LotR.
The scene where Link is on a horse running towards a castle and being chased by those flying things, and the scene where he's running away from a spider both reminded me of LotR. Not in a "omg, it's a ripoff!" but in a "hey! cool!". They've maintained there Zeldaness on both occasions too.
Also, people should take these trailers with a grain of salt. Nintendo (as most other smart companies) has a habbit of showing only very small parts of the game in trailers, to keep the rest a surprise. To everyone whose saying "but it's too dark!" or "the wide open spaces are too bare!", remember that what you saw probably makes up less than 5% of the locations within the game. We haven't seen any villages, any large parts of dungeons, any castles/temples/characters. This trailer's more of a "Hey! We're making a new Zelda! Don't forget about it!"
Plus, this trailer has kitties. Kitties!
The scene where Link is on a horse running towards a castle and being chased by those flying things, and the scene where he's running away from a spider both reminded me of LotR. Not in a "omg, it's a ripoff!" but in a "hey! cool!". They've maintained there Zeldaness on both occasions too.
Also, people should take these trailers with a grain of salt. Nintendo (as most other smart companies) has a habbit of showing only very small parts of the game in trailers, to keep the rest a surprise. To everyone whose saying "but it's too dark!" or "the wide open spaces are too bare!", remember that what you saw probably makes up less than 5% of the locations within the game. We haven't seen any villages, any large parts of dungeons, any castles/temples/characters. This trailer's more of a "Hey! We're making a new Zelda! Don't forget about it!"
Plus, this trailer has kitties. Kitties!
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Yep. What Khuffie said. There are scenes that definately reminded me of LotR (the ghost scene in particular) but it's bound to happen, especially with LotR being in recent memory. At first I was kind of disappointed, but then the more I watched it and the more I thought about it, the more excited I got. I'm currently adding a page to my site detailing the bad-guys shown in the trailer - there looks like there's going to be some interesting new ones - I mean, there's a boomerang throwing baboon in there for goodness sake! What's not to like? 
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Link is fighting a Goron! 
That opens up possibilities for a very interesting story. Too bad though, since the Gorons are one of my favourite characters in the Zelda games.
That opens up possibilities for a very interesting story. Too bad though, since the Gorons are one of my favourite characters in the Zelda games.
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 09:33 AM
A friend had a very good and interesting point considering the Goron:
First off, she said it could be a 'boxing minigame' such as the one in the Oracles (finding Ricky's Boxing Gloves, right?). I pointed out the Goron looked a little more businesslike than that.
Then my friend said that maybe it was a 'test.' Like a 'prove yourself' sort of sequence, where Link has to take down x number of Gorons or something to get their respect. That seemed quite possible.
If I'm not too mistaken, Link wasn't fighting the Goron with his sword. Was he boxing, or just blocking? That part goes by a little too fast, and the Goron nails him in the first few seconds anyway.
First off, she said it could be a 'boxing minigame' such as the one in the Oracles (finding Ricky's Boxing Gloves, right?). I pointed out the Goron looked a little more businesslike than that.
Then my friend said that maybe it was a 'test.' Like a 'prove yourself' sort of sequence, where Link has to take down x number of Gorons or something to get their respect. That seemed quite possible.
If I'm not too mistaken, Link wasn't fighting the Goron with his sword. Was he boxing, or just blocking? That part goes by a little too fast, and the Goron nails him in the first few seconds anyway.
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 09:57 AM
Link has his shield to block, but his sword isn't drawn. He doesn't appear to use his free hand to do anything thought, so I guess it's not unarmed combat. I thought it could be something similar to the sword master training in TWW, that guy always looks businesslike when he's fighting you.
Also, the Gorons always seem to want you to prove yourself to them in someway, so this could be something similar. The Gorons being evil would be cool though! They were always my favourite Hylian race.
Also, the Gorons always seem to want you to prove yourself to them in someway, so this could be something similar. The Gorons being evil would be cool though! They were always my favourite Hylian race.
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 10:46 AM
I can just imagine a brilliant story, though. And story's in games are all that matter, well, tied with, you know, the gaming.
EDIT: Maybe it was Gorons throwing stones at Link all along...
EDIT: Maybe it was Gorons throwing stones at Link all along...
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 03:51 PM
I have been watching this over and over. I want to play this game more.
I've got several ideas as to what the story is, all of them probably wrong. One of my ideas is that this is the official game of the Imprisoning War.
Even if the wolf at the end means nothing, and was just added for dramatic effect, the idea of Link transforming into a wolf sounds awesome...
I've got several ideas as to what the story is, all of them probably wrong. One of my ideas is that this is the official game of the Imprisoning War.
Even if the wolf at the end means nothing, and was just added for dramatic effect, the idea of Link transforming into a wolf sounds awesome...
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 04:25 PM
Whats all this talk about warewolves i mean all it did was show a wolf howling that dosnt mean anything, It might just be there to spice up the video or to show that its night and that theres a full moon.
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Posted 11 March 2005 - 04:38 PM
Shapeshifting is something Zelda could work with, he could get a new transormation between levels (a la OoA's time spells) and get to new places with his new animal skills.
Lycanthropy alone, though, would rock.
Lycanthropy alone, though, would rock.
