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[coinilius]

But it can still be read as having sexual connotations, which was how I originally read it BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION SHIEK WAS A WOMAN< AND THUS OPEN TO INTERPRETING IT AS A ROMANTIC SITUATION more than if I had realised from the begining Shiek was ment to be a man. I can still legitimately see sexual subtext to it, through visual and audio clues such as the rapid intercutting between juxtaposed with the mounting crescendo and release of tension in the musical score.

It's nothing like just saying something like the example you gave - I can analyse the text and come away with that interpretation, and it is a valid interpretation even if it is not what was ment by the writer as it is backed up by my reading of the text. It's like how people have different interpretations of meaning from 'Mobey Dick' or 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?' Unless you can provide an arguement as for why you think the opening of Star Wars is Obi Wan playing the bagpipes, it isn't the same situation.

The question then becomes 'what did the author intend and how well did they convey that intention', but I'm not going to go into that - do we really know what the authors intended when they wrote, scored and directed that scene? I can point out visual and musical cues which seem to play on and suggest a sexual undercurrent... was that intended? It doesn't really matter in this instance, as I only brought it up because I was pointing out a misconception that I originally held that coloured my original reading of that scene.

[monique]

Monique, he was largely arguing against your posts. Don't get into Storyline and Contro levels of debate, guys!

I don't care! He's the one who made the biggest point out!

[SOAP]

Psh. Guys. No respect for intelligent thought.

Psh. Females. No respect for their place in society.

Some of y'all need to grow up. Sex is a beautiful thing and more so in music. Advertizement of it (porn, smut, the like) however is not always so. There's a big difference between the two. Anything you can dance to and has a good beat, specifically something with drums is sexually suggestive because women (and I mean women not little girls who aren't mature enough to handle the idea of having sex) link dancing to sex. Dancing with a guy is one failsafe way to check out if a guy is good in bed without actually having to sleep with him. Also a guy who is well coordinated makes a good father that can handle a bunch of little kids running around house.

[monique]

Okay uhm... I sure don't believe a EV game could have actually thought of Link having sex..
Now the teenrated! Oh yea!! I would see that one coming! WOOHOO!!

[Zythe]

Psh. Females. No respect for their place in society.

Holt shit! You really don't like women, do you MJ?

Okay uhm... I sure don't believe a EV game could have actually thought of Link having sex..
Now the teenrated! Oh yea!! I would see that one coming! WOOHOO!!

That's exactly what we need, "Zelda: Princess of Persia".

[SOAP]

Don't be silly Zythe. I like women. I just don't trust anything that bleeds for a week and doesn't die.

I think a little sexual tension between Link and Zelda would be fine if it's something like IndieZelda's TWW comic. Like the the scene where in the dark alley way in Windfall where Tetra lead Link to her secret stash of Bombs. Yeah, I could so see that in the next Zelda for GCN. After all, they said Link is a teen and teens do go through some crazy emotions. I miss those days...

[coinilius]

Okay uhm... I sure don't believe a EV game could have actually thought of Link having sex..
Now the teenrated! Oh yea!! I would see that one coming! WOOHOO!!

Justy because something is rated for all ages doesn't mean that the authors are incapable of interjecting subtle clues, innuendoes or symbollogy that plays of particular age groups expectations or experiences. It just means that perhaps there are more levels at work in the narrative of the game than just a surface level reading would suggest - I mean, there are less than subtle references towards things of a more sexual nature with the carpenters and the Poe vendor commenting on how attractive Link is, and Nabarou's suggestions towards him as well.

[Clayvman]

Yah thats uhh thats great of course i go bla at the thought of Link getting some so.

BOB DOLE

[monique]

guy's it was just a joke. -_-'' Don't take some stuff to serious! And yes that Ww comic from indiezelda that was so great! XD I hope they put something like that in the game!

[SOAP]

GIT-R-DONE!

I find it silly how some people hear the word sexual tension and automatically think it involves people boinking each other like a bunch of horny rabbits. Really folks! It's when two people like each other but one of them or both are too bull-headed to admit their feelings for each other, making alone time painfully awkward. That said, sexual tension can exist in a Zelda game without taking away it's "innocence" (not that hacking away at enemies with a sharp blade doesn't do that already XP). In fact, the Wind Waker has a few scenes with sexual tension in 'em like the cat burgular scene between Link and Mila. Yeah, she ran off because she knew she wanted to be all over him like white on rice.... in an innocent nonsexual sense of course.

Come to think of it, Husse reminds me of Mila...

[Husse]

like the cat burgular scene between Link and Mila.

Oh my gosh! I was just going to comment on that! o_O

But I'm not LIKE Mila...

[SOAP]

Oh my gosh! I was just going to comment on that! o_O

But I'm not LIKE Mila...

Yeah but I LIKE you.











Naw, I'm just messing with ya! You're alright.

[Husse]

Oh, what a shame. I'd be MORTIFIED if someone liked me. *rolls eyes*

I don't think LOZ contains sexual parallels, but, because of the story being told, almost any hormone driven teen can take it that way.

[SOAP]

C'mon Husse. I bet you could turn me straight.

[coinilius]

I thought you said before you were bi, mario? Or was that somone else?

Funnily enough, I don't think I ever read any sexual tension in the Link/Mila scene, but it's been awhile since I last played that scene...

[Husse]

No sexual tension, but there is a little boy/girl playing. You'll have to review it.

Yes, MJ, we know you're bi...or gay...can't tell.

Don't trust anything that bleeds for a week, psh! And if I could turn everyone on the planet straight, that would be keen, but seeing as I can't, I won't pick on you.

[SOAP]

I like keeping people on their toes.

Husse, you should believe more in yourself. God does.

[Clayvman]

I like being random and shoing so out of nowhere and make them laugh.

[Husse]

I like keeping people on their toes.

Husse, you should believe more in yourself. God does.

I quite honestly don't know what you're trying to say in that one at all.....

[SOAP]

I was referring to when you said that you're not able to turn everyone straight. But really the fact of the matter is that it's not about looks are being good in bed in whatever because if that stuff attracted gay men to women no one would be gay. It's about confidence and if you believe you're the shit and you're all that and a bag a chips then gay guys will be... Bah! I forgot where I was going with this.

*wanders off*

[Husse]

o_O

Okay, STILL don't know where you're going with that, ANYWAY, I'm not revolted with gays, I just think it's a perversity, and they don't need to do it, basically. It's a sad one at that. I don't hate gays, I mean, love the sinner, hate the sin, right?

[SOAP]

How can you say you're not revolted by something but still consider it a pervesity? That's like me say I'm not turned off by girls, I just think they're nasty. Wait. I did say that. And it was to prove a point. Somehow I got off track though. Better we talk in Contro I suppose. Or better yet AIM if you want. That is, if you don't think I'm not too much of a "pervesity." XP

[Husse]

Correction: Gayss are not sick.

The practice of homosexuality is.

I'll stop now.

[SOAP]

Well then I reserve my right to think that idea that womens' opinions count is.... cute.

[Husse]

You're a poo...where were we again?

[SOAP]

A poo am I? Well this "poo" just so happens to be the most bootilcious peice of prime 100 % Boriqua goodness you'll ever meet. Sorry but you lucked out girl friend. I guess you was just Kissing a Fool. As for that second part, hell if I know. We got so far off topic I don't even remember what it was about anymore.

[Eric]

Wow. This should be added to, 'When Decent Topics Attack'.

How'd this go from a 'Who Should Link Nail?' topic to a topic on homosexuality.

To bring things back to the topic.. cough..

I voted that Link should play Mack Daddy. He's a smart guy, and I think he can play it off well enough to get away with it. Then, when they all realize that he's seeing the other, it's a huge fight, with the winner being the true woman for Link. Or, whomever can cast the best magic, or throw the best punch.

I'd go to watch it.

[SOAP]

Ah fresh meat!

Anyways, I'd watch Malon and Zelda go at any day. In a pig mud pit. With hair pulling and teeth biting and nails scratching. That'd be awesome.

[Eric]

Mario Jr., you're my only friend.

XD

I have to agree, though; i'd love to see.. wait.. I take that back.. every male in the entire WORLD, Zelda fan or not, would love to see Zelda and Malon go at it. In a mud pit. With bathing suits on. That'd rock.

[Vazor]

Or without bathing suits. Either way really.