Psh. Guys. No respect for intelligent thought.
Who should Link end up with?
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 07:09 PM
Yes, because fabricating a love story between two characters with little to no basis is so intelligent...:-P
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 07:15 PM
Intelligent thought? Where? I haven't seen anything to indicate that those who feel like Link and Zelda should be together is any less intelligent than Malon and Link to be together. All I am seeing is Malon and Link lovers bashing any ideas of Zelda and Link to be together. It is a matter of opinion, and I have stated mine, and a thread like this has nothing to do with intelligence, it is just a matter of opinion. What I have been seeing actually is quite the opposite. A basis of stupidity in my eyes for anyone that even suggests that they think that Zelda and Link should be together gets bashed. Constantly ridiculing someone who has done stated that their english is not the best in the world, but yet continually decides to make bad comments about it despite saying that they do not have the best skills in that area is just demeaning and immoral.
Now as I stated I have done said who I would like for Link to end up with and by all means that is my opinion and I have a right to it. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just biast and being subjective to their own beliefs.
Now as I stated I have done said who I would like for Link to end up with and by all means that is my opinion and I have a right to it. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just biast and being subjective to their own beliefs.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 07:28 PM
People always try to look for profanity in innocent things. First, disney movies, they succeed and now Zelda... Bolero of Fire isn't sexual in any way. I picture the little freakin drummer boy drumming in the background. Not Link getting it on. None of the songs are sexual in any way. Seriously, if you want sex, look at p0rno and listen to p0rn groove, not Zelda.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 07:40 PM
Very true HousesofHoly. Zelda is about adventure, mystery, and about an intriguing legend, not about who is going to end up banging who in the end.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 07:56 PM
Thank You.
Some people I guess just perfer fanwanking to the actual games...
Some people I guess just perfer fanwanking to the actual games...
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 07:57 PM
Heh heh, Darkseid funny.
I never fabricated a love story, and that wasn't what I was talking about in the FIRST place. I think it's probable that Link will end up alone or with Malon, because there is little and ludicrous evidence to suggest otherwise.
Yes, because fabricating a love story between two characters with little to no basis is so intelligent...:-P
I never fabricated a love story, and that wasn't what I was talking about in the FIRST place. I think it's probable that Link will end up alone or with Malon, because there is little and ludicrous evidence to suggest otherwise.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 08:01 PM
There may be no evidence to suggest otherwise, but there is also no evidence to support your claim. Honestly.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 08:04 PM
Oh no? There's plenty of evidence to suggest that Link is a loner...and more evidence than any other girl that he will end up with Malon, leaving us two most plausible options.
In the end, Vazor, almost everything is fanwanking in something that's supposed to be a legend, and that's fine.
In the end, Vazor, almost everything is fanwanking in something that's supposed to be a legend, and that's fine.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 08:16 PM
fanwanking? what's that? is that when you make up your own crap? or.?
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 08:40 PM
Pretty much. It's using your own personal fabrications or takes on events (ie: fanfiction) and stating them as canon.fanwanking? what's that? is that when you make up your own crap? or.?
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 08:52 PM
In that case, I NEVER stated my theories as canon. X:(
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 09:07 PM
I know that. I was mainly talking about a certain someone else who posted repeatedly in this thread.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 10:08 PM
Oh no? There's plenty of evidence to suggest that Link is a loner...and more evidence than any other girl that he will end up with Malon, leaving us two most plausible options.
Honestly a loner would probably be the best suggestion, but if he was to end up with someone I would honestly have to say it was probably someone like Romani. The backstory of the Wind Waker says that the Hero did not return, and if he was stuck in Termina then he could have just settled down there and the person he was best suited for from there in my eyes would be Romani.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 10:48 PM
And WHO is Romani's clone in the land he returns to? 
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 10:56 PM
BLARG!
There is no evidence in either OoT or MM that he was "destined" to end up with any of the girls. There just isn't. Period. End of story.
There is no evidence in either OoT or MM that he was "destined" to end up with any of the girls. There just isn't. Period. End of story.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 11:04 PM
And WHO is Romani's clone in the land he returns to?
Well Malon of course. My point was though if we was going to actually sit down and think of who Link was with the most suitable girl for him would be Romani, that is the Link from Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask that is.
Of course I still feel like he had a better connection to Zelda than any of the other girls, but that's me.
Most likely he could have just ended up a loner, but like I said if I had to pick honestly who he ended up with I would suggest Romani.
There is no evidence in either OoT or MM that he was "destined" to end up with any of the girls. There just isn't. Period. End of story.
True. But the title of this thread is to speculate who should Link end up with, or who people think is most suited for Link.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 11:08 PM
There is no evidence of a complex Butterfly Effect in Zelda. We know. We are guessing all sorts of things in waiting for the next Zelda installments. W/o groundless theories, there would be no board. Stop screaming.There is no evidence in either OoT or MM that he was "destined" to end up with any of the girls. There just isn't. Period. End of story.
Well, Darkseid, that's a good way of deciding. It seems SOMEONE'S realized that no matter how many times we see Link with Zelda, there is no romance. Look at how they react to each other!Of course I still feel like he had a better connection to Zelda than any of the other girls, but that's me.
Most likely he could have just ended up a loner, but like I said if I had to pick honestly who he ended up with I would suggest Romani.
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 12:01 AM
what the heck is canon?
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 12:04 AM
How many things must we define? 
Canon is all the theories from a game that have no fanfiction. It's stuff that you can assume safely cause it's in-game content. That's about it.
Canon is all the theories from a game that have no fanfiction. It's stuff that you can assume safely cause it's in-game content. That's about it.
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 12:12 AM
Well, Darkseid, that's a good way of deciding. It seems SOMEONE'S realized that no matter how many times we see Link with Zelda, there is no romance. Look at how they react to each other!
Well I wasn't actually saying that. I was saying that because of time restraints and how the legend plays out Link couldn't be with Zelda, and most likely got stuck in Termina due to the backstory and the Hylain text of the Wind Waker.
So in that sense I think that the Link from the Ocarina of Time could never ever end up with Zelda, but I do feel that he had more emotion towards her than any other girl. Whether you think of them as close friends or not, the fact is that Link thinks about Zelda more than any other girl in the Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask included. Even Ruto herself thinks that Link is attracted to Zelda, or at least has strong feelings for her, stronger than what he should have since Ruto thinks of Link as her husband. Here is what Ruto said.
As a reward... I grant my eternal love to you. Well, that's what I want to say, but I don't think I can offer that now. I have to guard the Water Temple as the Sage of Water... And you... You're searching for the princess, Zelda? Hah! You can't hide anything from me! Princess Zelda... She's alive. I can sense it...so don't be discouraged.
Ruto wanted to grant her eternal love to Link, but she couldn't offer that because she had to play her role as the Sage of Water. Then she knows, she somehow senses that Link is searching for Princess Zelda, and tells him that she is okay and not to be discouraged. Ruto never mentioned Link having this kind of feeling towards any other girl.
I could go on, but I just feel that Link had the strongest connection and feelings towards Zelda, but he can't be with her because of how the story is written. That is how I see it.
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 12:35 AM
So in that sense I think that the Link from the Ocarina of Time could never ever end up with Zelda,
That's what a lot of dumb people don't realize. No matter what, even if they were madly in love with one another, they would not be able to wed. And they didn't.
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 01:09 AM
That's what a lot of dumb people don't realize. No matter what, even if they were madly in love with one another, they would not be able to wed. And they didn't.
Yeah a person could pretty much state that as canon that they didn't get married since Link never did return to Hyrule. Even though at the end of Majora's Mask it looks like he is headed back home we still know from the exploits of the Wind Waker's backstory that he never did make it back, thus concluding that there was no relationship between Link and Zelda. And I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but one could also assume that Link couldn't end up with Malon either, at least not the one from Ocarina of Time.
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 02:29 AM
Maybe this is just too much of my College Literature classes talking, but to me it seems that the weary hero is destined to be alone in terms of a female lover... sure he has friends and possibly even a whole group of supporters who believe in him, yet he still must bare being alone because he "is" the hero...
Now, of course once his travels are over, it's a different story, but even then, heroes tend to be be alone (in my opinion)...
Now, of course once his travels are over, it's a different story, but even then, heroes tend to be be alone (in my opinion)...
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 04:01 AM
Maybe this is just too much of my College Literature classes talking, but to me it seems that the weary hero is destined to be alone in terms of a female lover... sure he has friends and possibly even a whole group of supporters who believe in him, yet he still must bare being alone because he "is" the hero...
Now, of course once his travels are over, it's a different story, but even then, heroes tend to be be alone (in my opinion)...
This is probably the most realistic comment made on this entire damn thread.
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 02:38 PM
Maybe this is just too much of my College Literature classes talking, but to me it seems that the weary hero is destined to be alone in terms of a female lover... sure he has friends and possibly even a whole group of supporters who believe in him, yet he still must bare being alone because he "is" the hero...
Now, of course once his travels are over, it's a different story, but even then, heroes tend to be be alone (in my opinion)...
I freaken support this one!
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 02:45 PM
Monique, he was largely arguing against your posts. Don't get into Storyline and Contro levels of debate, guys!
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 11:53 PM
People always try to look for profanity in innocent things. First, disney movies, they succeed and now Zelda... Bolero of Fire isn't sexual in any way. I picture the little freakin drummer boy drumming in the background. Not Link getting it on. None of the songs are sexual in any way. Seriously, if you want sex, look at p0rno and listen to p0rn groove, not Zelda.
It's not about looking for profanity or anything dirty, but people can read sexual or other messages into a piece of literature, which all the Zelda games do qaulify as (literature does not just refer to books - it can be movies and video games). I can see a sexual subtext to the way in which the Bolero of Fire is staged, in the way the music and camera editing are used together to create a sense of mounting tension and release. It's not about pornography, but about reading textual references and symbolic meanings that are embedded within the text.
But that doesn't mean that it was intended as having sexual connotations by the author, or that everyone has to share the same opinion; I can identify encoded sexual subtext, but that doesn't mean that everyone has to read it in the same way, nor am I suggesting that it is a cannonical interpreation of the events.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 12:08 AM
It obviously wasn't meant sexually. That idea is completely obsurd.
It's like me saying, "Oh, that opening song in the beginning of Star Wars is Obi Wan playing his bagpipe!" Or something.
It's like me saying, "Oh, that opening song in the beginning of Star Wars is Obi Wan playing his bagpipe!" Or something.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 02:59 AM
Actually I think coinilius has a point here. I mean people read into things differently and to some it might have had some sexual tension involved. He also stated that he wasn't acknowledging the scene as a sexual subtext just saying that some people could view it that way. It has been a while since I last seen the Bolero of Fire ordeal. I remember Link and Shiek on the bridge and it shows clips of their eyes back and forth and the fire raises, and Shiek leaves behind the flames on the bridge. Though come to think about it.......nah it couldn't be, could it.
