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[Smertios]

I believe the japanese LA website still says it's a sequel to ALTTP. The 1998 Miyamoto timeline never made any sense anyway. It's a good thing Miyamoto himself said ALTTP occurs before LOZ. Has this been mentioned on ZI yet?

Of course it has, I'm allowed to have a moment of glory too lol

Anyway, the Zi translators are the one working on the translation, so people are aware of this in there...

[ganonlord6000]

I believe the japanese LA website still says it's a sequel to ALTTP. The 1998 Miyamoto timeline never made any sense anyway. It's a good thing Miyamoto himself said ALTTP occurs before LOZ. Has this been mentioned on ZI yet?

Of course it has, I'm allowed to have a moment of glory too lol

Anyway, the Zi translators are the one working on the translation, so people are aware of this in there...

Just making sure because the las t time I was there, a lot of them supported the 98 timeline. When I mentioned this ZU, I noticed that very few of them supported it in the first place.

[Smertios]

I believe the japanese LA website still says it's a sequel to ALTTP. The 1998 Miyamoto timeline never made any sense anyway. It's a good thing Miyamoto himself said ALTTP occurs before LOZ. Has this been mentioned on ZI yet?

Of course it has, I'm allowed to have a moment of glory too lol

Anyway, the Zi translators are the one working on the translation, so people are aware of this in there...

Just making sure because the las t time I was there, a lot of them supported the 98 timeline. When I mentioned this ZU, I noticed that very few of them supported it in the first place.

Yea, that's pretty much just ZI now. I was the only one defending OoT-LttP/LA-LoZ/AoL there. Of course, this news will probably make most of them switch back to the UWM timeline....

[Person]

And thus, some last glimpse of sanity has been restored to the timeline boards.

[Pinecove]

Scary timeline is scary:
http://zeldadungeon....ll=1#post106009

...and just when we were thinking theorizing was getting better.

[ganonlord6000]

Scary timeline is scary:
http://zeldadungeon....ll=1#post106009

...and just when we were thinking theorizing was getting better.

Holy! The only thing sane about that is where that guy placed the oracles. Next stop: disprove the single timeline.

Yea, that's pretty much just ZI now. I was the only one defending OoT-LttP/LA-LoZ/AoL there. Of course, this news will probably make most of them switch back to the UWM timeline....

So was I for a while. How could LOZ-ALTTP have worked out in the first place?

[Person]

So was I for a while. How could LOZ-ALTTP have worked out in the first place?

It doesn't. People were just trying to justify it because A. It was the "official" order, or B. It allowed their theories to work.

[Smertios]

The only actual reason anyone has ever given me is that Miyamoto said it and "Miyamoto is the word of God", so... lol

[Pinecove]

Not quite. I was on that order for a while. It requires some complicated explanations but it COULD have worked.

[Smertios]

http://www.zeldauniv...403-post49.html

personally, I think that one is ridiculous. But anyway, I want to hear your opinion, people: is Link leaving Holodrum/Labrynna or Hyrule at the ending of OoX??

[Jarsh]

^
Judging from the presence of the castle in the background, I'd have to say Hyrule. Nothing else in that scene really suggests it would be Labrynna/Holodrum. I suppose Link returned home and then decided to go on another journey/do some training?

[Average Gamer]

http://www.zeldauniv...ants-reign.html

Now, this theory may admittedly not be kooky at all. However, the way he's written his initial post is certainly kooky.

Edit: finally managed to understand what he was saying. Yeah, it's incredibly unlikely that the Sacred Realm and Twilight Realm are the same.

Edited by Average Gamer, 05 April 2010 - 04:56 PM.

[Person]

http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/zelda-theorizing/108184-regarding-the-forms-taken-in-the-twilight-realm-during-zants-reign.html

Now, this theory may admittedly not be kooky at all. However, the way he's written his initial post is certainly kooky.

The main flaw I find with all "Twilight Realm and Sacred Realm are the same" theories is that it defeats the purpose of why the Twilight Realm exists at all. So this group of dark magic users tries to get into the Sacred Realm and the gods stop them. Then the gods put them right into the very realm they were trying to keep them out of?

[ganonlord6000]

http://www.zeldauniv...ants-reign.html

Now, this theory may admittedly not be kooky at all. However, the way he's written his initial post is certainly kooky.

The main flaw I find with all "Twilight Realm and Sacred Realm are the same" theories is that it defeats the purpose of why the Twilight Realm exists at all. So this group of dark magic users tries to get into the Sacred Realm and the gods stop them. Then the gods put them right into the very realm they were trying to keep them out of?

Why would anyone think they were the same, anyway? The SR and twilight realm have two entirely different purposes.

[MikePetersSucks]

Not to mention they don't share a single property of any sort aside from "alternate dimension."

[Jarsh]

Offical Nintendo Magazine Forums

I don't know what to say. I've only read the first post, but there's a motherload of kooky stuff here.

Adult Timeline (AT)
....................WW - PH - ST......LOZ - AOL.....OOX
....../...................................................................\
OOT.....................................................................LA - MC - FS - FSA.....ALTTP
......\.................................................................../
........MM.......TP............................................OOX
Child Timeline (CT)

[ganonlord6000]

Offical Nintendo Magazine Forums

I don't know what to say. I've only read the first post, but there's a motherload of kooky stuff here.

Adult Timeline (AT)
....................WW - PH - ST......LOZ - AOL.....OOX
....../...................................................................\
OOT.....................................................................LA - MC - FS - FSA.....ALTTP
......\.................................................................../
........MM.......TP............................................OOX
Child Timeline (CT)

This reminds me of a guy who had like four timelines in his theory that branched of from OOT. I posted it in this thread a while back. Oh. And be glad that you didn't look at the other posts. Those guys are just plain crazy.
Like this:

Wow, what a great start to the new thread. It's always good to have a bit of new blood to shake things up a bit.

But yes, that certainly has gotten me thinking, and the Recuits uniform idea really could make a lot of sense. I was looking around on ZeldaPedia (Or ZeldaWiki, I can't remember) and I noticed that some seemed to think the same as you about the link between MC and ST.

I was thinking too, does anyone else see the similarities betweeen the maps for ST and MC.
Basically although they look different, all you need to do is rotate the ST map around a bit, and it looks very much like the MC one.

I don't know about the rest of you, but did you see any similarities whatsoever between ST's and TMC's map? Just looking at FSA's map should fly this idea out the window. I think this site might replace ign as the worst place to find theories at.

Edited by ganonlord6000, 07 April 2010 - 09:52 PM.

[Sir Turtlelot]

Offical Nintendo Magazine Forums

I don't know what to say. I've only read the first post, but there's a motherload of kooky stuff here.

Adult Timeline (AT)
....................WW - PH - ST......LOZ - AOL.....OOX
....../...................................................................\
OOT.....................................................................LA - MC - FS - FSA.....ALTTP
......\.................................................................../
........MM.......TP............................................OOX
Child Timeline (CT)

That reminds me of my Abstract and Otherwise Completely Random Timeline
....../WW - PH - ST
OoT
......\MM - TP - OoS ______
.......................................\
.........................................MC - FS - FSA
......................................./
ALttP - LA - LoZ - AoL - OoA

Edited by Sir Turtlelot, 07 April 2010 - 10:21 PM.

[Person]

There are absolutely no similarities between ST and TMC's maps. Anyone looking for them is reading into them. ST goes out of its way to show that this is a new country by having absolutely none of the old standby landmarks like Death Mountain, Lake Hylia, etc. The only landmarks it shares with old Hyrule are Hyrule Castle (obviously not the same one) and the Lost Woods (which FSA implies are just woods under an enchantment, so they don't have to be the same either).

[ganonlord6000]

There are absolutely no similarities between ST and TMC's maps. Anyone looking for them is reading into them. ST goes out of its way to show that this is a new country by having absolutely none of the old standby landmarks like Death Mountain, Lake Hylia, etc. The only landmarks it shares with old Hyrule are Hyrule Castle (obviously not the same one) and the Lost Woods (which FSA implies are just woods under an enchantment, so they don't have to be the same either).

Doesn't it also make it quite clear that the Ganon story is over on the AT? And people come up with insane stuff to cover up the tower of spirits and the spirit tracks not being there. Nintendo really went out of their way to show that the older games do not occur after ST. Just like they went out of their way with TP to show that ALTTP (as well as LOZ and the oracles) go after it.


Oh. And the OMN forums are very bad. One of the guys said in a responce to one of my posts there that there is no proof that the oracles are on the same timeline. Uh, isn't the fact that they have the same Link all the proof you need? I've only been a member there for a day and they already replace ign. And their stuff was just plain outragus.

Edited by ganonlord6000, 08 April 2010 - 05:12 PM.

[Pinecove]

http://www.zeldauniv...-sw-debate.html

Not the theory itself, but the conversation in it.
Lex is up to his usual BS.

[Jarsh]

I don't know, OoT being the SW in terms of current intent is a pretty kooky theory to me.

[Pinecove]

When did I say it wasn't?

[MikePetersSucks]

Not the theory itself, but the conversation in it.

[Pinecove]

The theory isn't cooky at all. It proposes that OoT IS NOT the SW.

Lex on the other hand is full of it.

[Jarsh]

Is there anyone else in the thread still defending it? I think Lex may be the only one now.

[Pinecove]

I dunno but he hasn't really responded to it since a day after my famous post.

Edited by Destiny, 10 April 2010 - 09:38 AM.

[ganonlord6000]

Is there anyone else in the thread still defending it? I think Lex may be the only one now.

That is not surpriseing. Has lex payed attention to any of the games released in the last 8 years? I'm guessing he hasn't.

And d oany of you think that some guidelines need to be set for map comparisons? And some of you should check the ONM timeline forums. I've been posting many of our common theories there. Check out their responces. Like this:

No, it seems to you mistaken Ganonlord. OOT Ganondorf IS the Ganondorf from WW and TP...in fact, every single Ganondorf is the same, there has only ever been one. I can prove this very simply too. You might say, but there are loads of Zeldas, and Links, so could be more than one Ganondorf, well, here's the lowdown.
There are many Zeldas because of the Prince from AOL requiring all females in the Royal Family to be called Zelda.
Link, well, Link is never called Link in the games, it is always whichever you call him, different names essentially. Whereas Ganondorf on the other hand, is always Ganondorf, because there is only one Ganondorf, the one and only.

Anyways, if YOU pay attention to FSA, it is nowhere clearly stated that it is a new Ganon in FSA...in fact, it actually states that it is Ganon revived through the power of the Hylians...which is very different to what you thought.
I think Ben really covered a good point for the merge.
Consider where OOX are placed in the CATv1, and look at the game before them, on both the AT and CT. for the AT, it's WW, and the CT is TP.
Well, like Ben said, in one OOX game, the Master Sword can be found under the sea...just where it was left in WW, plunged into the forehead of Ganondorf at the bottom of a flooding Hyrule. It says nothing of Hyrule being completely erased.

And, on the CT, there Master Sword, as you rightly said, is placed back in the Sacred Meadow. In the other OOX game, the Master Sword can be found in the Lost Woods (same place as ALTTP. It is too much of a coincidence, and it works brilliantly, don;t you think?

And yeah, PR, what that is, it is a fan view that OOT is a remake of ALTTP, but then again, people also think the same of TP for some reason. It's just a fan view. They are different games, so just forget that view.

EDIT - Also, it isn't clear what happened to Ganondorf in TP

Has this guy actually PLAYED FSA? Seriously. Those guys really need the translations we have here.

Edited by ganonlord6000, 11 April 2010 - 05:14 PM.

[Jarsh]

I guess kingconnor isn't responding to me anymore? Oh well, I guess we'll never know how a merge has ever been intended by the developers.

[Pinecove]

Kingconnor? No way! I knew that guy on ZU like post blue swamp.

Back to his old bullshit is he?