If you were going to tell a story about the Triforce, you would explain its origins no matter what, assuming you knew them. It's illogical to say that you would only include the creation story if the story you were telling had complete continuity, because it's necessary to explain where the Triforce came from, as well as setting the stage for the story from the player's perspective.
If you were going to tell a story about the Sages' Seal, you would explain its origins no matter what, assuming you knew them. It's illogical to say that you would only include the Imprisoning War story if the story you were telling had complete continuity, because it's necessary to explain where the Sages' Seal came from, as well as setting the stage for the story from the player's perspective.
For the love of peace.
If we're going by that, then apparently, Lex would have us believe that the Triforce never left the Sacred Realm before ALttP
My God, you don't read.
I never said anything to this end. It's precisely because I won't say that that I even go with the two Ganon theory.
ALttP doesn't allow for TWW's events, because of that implied continuity, and yet you think it's perfectly okay to screw with that for the sake of one thing.
ALttP COULD allow for TWW's events, and should, because of the intent of OoT, and yet you think it's perfectly okay to screw with that for the sake of your one thing (Ganon).
I simply value OoT's story more than ALttP's, because OoT's backstory hasn't been chopped up and scattered throughout the timeline like ALttP's has.
You say that ALttP somehow says (which it doesn't) that the Triforce couldn't have left the SR before the IW, but if ALttP is accounting for events so damn precisely from the creation to ALttP, there's a metric shitload missing. Like the fact that the Ganon from what you claim to be the IW is dead. Like TWW. Like the flooding of Hyrule. While you ignore that the maidens make it a clear fact that Ganon in ALttP is the one from the IW.
1) The Triforce was in the Sacred Realm from the time the goddesses put it there at the beginning of the world to the time of the Imprisoning War. That's why it's "still there" when it begins? This is fact, and it is stated precisely as quoted.
2) Ganon dies and is revived all the time. Ganon from ALttP died, but is back in LoZ without any explicable cause.
3) TWW and the flooding of Hyrule both contribute to the idea that: (1) legends fade over time; (2) the Hylian descendants spread to all parts of the world; (3) the location of the Sacred Realm was lost completely. All of these happen before ALttP.
If you seriously believe that ALttP isn't wrong about some events, you're delusional.
Precisely, my friend.
Why the hell do a million facts matter less than one single interpretation?
Stop seeing things from only your perspective, because this is just beyond any rational belief.
I would say that blatantly disregarding a stated fact is immensely more irrational than simply accepting a situation is more complicated than it is, especially when it's proven to be more complicated than it is.
You're so hell bent on one theory that you can't see anything in an objective way anymore.
Not really. This theory has changed at least half a dozen times.
one of which is that there's only one Ganon in both the IW and ALttP.
This was back when there was only one Ganon in the series.
You seriously think you can deny that as ALttP's intent, but that this supposed continuity in ALttP's backstory can't be ignored? Even thought ALttP is missing a fucking million other important things that would be necessary for that continuity?
OoT's intent can't be ignored.
What ALttP is missing, according to you, is a Ganon, because Ganon dies in TP and TWW, but there's a Ganon in FSA.
So explain to me what's missing.
You really have warped reality in your favour here.
ALttP's manual suggests that the story is from some kind of text that exists in Hyrule, so yes, it evidently is known to some. But why the hell is it necessary for the Triforce to have been undisturbed before the IW? That's not even said to be the case. It's also entirely possible that people didn't KNOW that was the case, because that was hundreds of years ago and whoever wrote that story was unaware of the events of OoT and TP.
1) The entire story of the seizure of the Triforce is told with the creation story as a reference point. This by itself doesn't mean that there's continuity, like you said, but coupled with the fact that the GBA manual BLATANTLY STATES that is was "still there" (to use the exact words: "the Triforce still rested") from the creation, seems to tell me that this is definitely the case.
ALttP tells us Ganon is the one who has changed the Sacred Realm into the Dark World, but, really, that happens all the time, and besides, who said it ever reverted back between OoT and ALttP? If Ganon is the same character from OoT, revived (which I and you presumably both believe), then he IS the same Ganon from ALttP. Just this time he's managed to steal the whole Triforce somehow inexplicably.
So, we have one fact, the Triforce is still resting in the Sacred Realm, which becomes impossible after OoT
and another fact, Ganon has transformed the Sacred Realm into the Dark World, which is true anyway, if you're saying the Sacred Realm was left alone after he escaped in TWW.
2) As for your last point, this is exactly why I say there can be another Ganon. Quit being a hypocrite.
It's amazing how you seem to find it so impossible for ALttP's role to have changed
It has? (That question mark indicates sarcasm, by the way.)
Lex conveniently ignores the fact that the Triforce never even left the Sacred Realm between the creation and ALttP, assuming that facts established in 1991 are still the case.
No. I conveniently ignore the fact that GANON never left the Sacred Realm between the IW and ALttP, because I'm assuming that facts established in 1991 aren't the case (and that facts established in 1998 - OoT - and subsequently in 2002 - ALttP GBA - ARE).