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[Chukchi Husky]

I did think Starlight did sound like something from their previous albums.

The albums versions will probably have more to their sound than the live ones, simply because Bellamy doesn't have to exchange between guitar and keys, so they'll be piano/keys/synth, guitar and bass at the same time.

[Fyxe]

Indeed, so I expect Knights of Cydonia will sound even *more* epic. If that's possible. Appropriate that it's the last song on the album, anyway. Starlight definitely sounds like a track 2 as well.

[Chukchi Husky]

Knights could end up sounding a bit like a Rush space epic (without whiney vocals), and still have their own unique sound. They're a three member band with one member changing instruments.

Edited by Chukchi Husky, 09 June 2006 - 04:57 PM.

[Steel Samurai]

Interestingly, all from Absolution... If you haven't already, listen to Origin of Symmetry, their second album, and argued by many as their best. Personally I can't decide between all three. In fact, I can't decide between four, if I include the B-Sides Cd included with the live album Hullabaloo.

Their Wiki is fairly detailed.

Hmm . . . my friend's sister has the cd, maybe I'll try and borrow it . . . I've heard a couple songs, but I don't remember being too impressed, being more of a heavy guitar guy myself, I wasn't too into some of the discordant piano pieces (map of your head, Dark shines) (although dark shines was pretty sweet otherwise)
Me and my friend (some of you might possibly remember Ransom) made an anime music video to Stockhom Syndrome . . . I'm uploading it to youtube now, I'll post the link when it's finished. If you're a member of AMV.org, then you can find it here

[Fyxe]

Well bloody hell, if you like heavy guitar, the first song (and the single) from Origin of Symmetry, New Born, is one freakin' heavy song when it gets going. You have a minute of piano-based intro, then it just goes 'bang'. It's definitely one of my favourite Muse songs of all time. Favourite ever song, even.

Really though, there's plenty of heavy guitar in their early stuff. A good chunk of it is heavier than Absolution. I suggest you listen to New Born, Hyper Music, Plug In Baby, and the wonderfully bizarre Micro Cuts. But at the same time, don't let your preference of guitar over piano let you miss out on the freakin' excellent Dead Star.
Also, Cave from their first album is a good guitar-based piece.

Darkshines doesn't have piano... Maybe you're mixing it up with Dead Star (similar name, after all). Darkshines is full-on guitar.

Map Of Your Head is actually a B-Side (may have been a single), not one of my favourite tracks, but hey, I like anything they do.

When it comes to Absolution, my favourite tracks are often the lesser known ones. Stockholm Syndrome and Time Is Running Out are brilliant, but I personally love The Small Print and Butterflies & Hurricanes lots.

Edited by Fyxe, 11 June 2006 - 08:50 AM.

[Chukchi Husky]

Is there a version of Dead Star that isn't live, or was it the only time they played it was where Hullabaloo was recorded?

Edited by Chukchi Husky, 11 June 2006 - 08:56 AM.

[Fyxe]

Wait, bugger, sorry, whenever I said 'Dead Star' replace that with 'Space Dementia'. For some reason I thought track 3 on Origin of Symmetry was called Dead Star.

But still, Darkshines doesn't have piano, and Dead Star is another very heavy track for most of it.

Husky, Dead Star was a single, but the studio version never appeared on any of the albums. Just on the singles.

[Chukchi Husky]

Explains why I don't have it, I only have the albums. Space Dementia is one of my favourite Muse songs.

[Fyxe]

That's because it's brilliant.

I have two singles, Hysteria, and the Dvd version of Butterflies & Hurricanes. Soon I'll have Supermassive Black Hole, come next Monday.

[Steel Samurai]

Well bloody hell, if you like heavy guitar, the first song (and the single) from Origin of Symmetry, New Born, is one freakin' heavy song when it gets going. You have a minute of piano-based intro, then it just goes 'bang'. It's definitely one of my favourite Muse songs of all time. Favourite ever song, even.

Really though, there's plenty of heavy guitar in their early stuff. A good chunk of it is heavier than Absolution. I suggest you listen to New Born, Hyper Music, Plug In Baby, and the wonderfully bizarre Micro Cuts. But at the same time, don't let your preference of guitar over piano let you miss out on the freakin' excellent Dead Star.
Also, Cave from their first album is a good guitar-based piece.

Darkshines doesn't have piano... Maybe you're mixing it up with Dead Star (similar name, after all). Darkshines is full-on guitar.

Map Of Your Head is actually a B-Side (may have been a single), not one of my favourite tracks, but hey, I like anything they do.

When it comes to Absolution, my favourite tracks are often the lesser known ones. Stockholm Syndrome and Time Is Running Out are brilliant, but I personally love The Small Print and Butterflies & Hurricanes lots.

Hyper music does have a little piano in it. plunkity plunk. I'll have a listen to those you recommended from origin of symmetry. I don't really like guitar over piano I suppose, just an addiction to moderately heavy music in general. My all time favorite muse song is prob Hysteria, Butterflies and hurricanes close second. The album info on my version of Map of Your Head says it's from Hullaballoo Soundtrack cd1. Anyway, Youtube's finally finished loading, but I do not recommend it, as the quality is the crappiest thing I've seen in my life, Get it from AMV.org! www.youtube.com/watch?=pkb0gDqogli

Edited by Steel Samurai, 11 June 2006 - 10:12 AM.

[Fyxe]

Youtube is always bad.

I didn't pick those tracks specifically because they had no piano, just that they were somewhat heavy and had plenty of twangingty twang (read: guitars).

The first Hullaballoo Cd is a collection of B-sides, and is actually an excellent album on it's own.

[Chukchi Husky]

One Muse fan I know didn't like the first Hullabaloo disc that much, he said it's too weird.

[Fyxe]

You can't complain that it's weird. Muse are weird anyway. It's part of their schtick. His loss.

Edited by Fyxe, 11 June 2006 - 12:36 PM.

[Steel Samurai]

Just listened to supermassive Black hole . . . Frankly, I'm not really impressed. I was never into the high choral type stuff.

[Chukchi Husky]

Don't let it put you off the next album.

[Fyxe]

Yes, from what I've heard, Supermassive Black Hole sounds quite different from the other tracks.

Plus, it's a grower. It'll grow on you the more you hear it.

[Steel Samurai]

Heh. We'll see. I will definitely listen to the rest of it, but my first impression is not so good.

[Chukchi Husky]

Listen to Knights of Cydonia. You can find a live recording of it.

Edited by Chukchi Husky, 12 June 2006 - 07:42 AM.

[Fyxe]

Heh. We'll see. I will definitely listen to the rest of it, but my first impression is not so good.

Oh, be more open minded. Muse can't do the exact same thing over and over and over. I'm glad they're trying something a bit different.

And yes, listen to Knights, it's a brilliant track.

Better yet, go ahead and listen to Origin of Symmetry, you deprived child.

[Chukchi Husky]

Oh, be more open minded. Muse can't do the exact same thing over and over and over. I'm glad they're trying something a bit different.

Except for some people, when a band tries something different, they accuse them of "selling out".

[Steel Samurai]

Heh. I'm not one to let my view of one song colour my view of an entire album, so fear not there. I jsut ordered OOS from the library. I would acquire it by less than legal methods, but I really can't be screwed at the moment. I'm downloading Knights of Cydonia now. I'm not faulting them for trying something new, I'm jsut saying that with me high choral+rock=/=good to listen to.

[Chukchi Husky]

Better avoid anything influenced by eighties metal.

[Steel Samurai]

I do. Except for queen. Just listened to Knights. Not bad, not as enjoyable for me as most of the songs from Absolution, but, nonetheless, not bad. I'm quite interested to see how the rest of the album turns out.

[Fyxe]

Remember, the version of Knights you can download is only a crappy version from the radio. I reckon the studio one will sound full on Butterflies & Hurriacansey.

...I don't like Queen. Well, I tolerate them, but apparently everyone else in the world thinks they're great. And I don't. I just think they're sorta alright, but at the same time, sorta annoying.

[Chukchi Husky]

Queen isn't eighties metal or influenced by eighties metal. They're seventies opera rock with some prog and metal elements. I know a couple of people who don't like Queen, one of them calls them "The Queers" and would rather listen to a speech by the Queen.

Edited by Chukchi Husky, 14 June 2006 - 07:54 AM.

[Steel Samurai]

Queen isn't eighties metal or influenced by eighties metal. They're seventies opera rock with some prog and metal elements.

Let me rephrase my answer then. I don't listen to anything majorly influenced by 80s music period except for queen. Queen is the exception because they're funny. Very funny. If the full KOC sounds like butterflies and hurricanes . . . then I am going to be wowified . . .

[Fyxe]

The thing is, there are only so many times you can hear Bohemian Rhapsody before... The 'joke' wears slightly thin. Basically I've just heard it way, way, way way way way too many times and everyone else can seem to listen to it five thousand times a day and *still* not get tired of it. I mean for heck's sake, it doesn't have to be played at the bar EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. But it is.

The reason I think Knights will sound like Butterflies is because it sounds to me like one of those songs that will gain more oomph when they've got the fully mixed studio version. Not that the live version of Butterflies is bad, but it's one of those songs where the studio version has something extra.

[Steel Samurai]

As a matter of fact, I've only listened to Bohemian Rhapsody once. There's more to queen than that. The bicycle song, Flash (one of my all time favorites) and of course the eternally aw3some we will rock you.

I'll reserve judgment on knights till I've heard the full studio version I s'pose.

[Chukchi Husky]

Most of Queen's hits from the seventies are overplayed, especially Bohemian Rhapsody, Killer Queen, Don't Stop Me Now, Bicycle Race, We Will Rock You and We Are The Champions. I would also say Another One Bites The Dust, A Kind Of Magic and I Want To Break Free, but they're from the eighties.

[Fyxe]

Oh, I've heard all their songs (except maybe some lesser-known ones). Problem is, I've heard all their songs FIVE BILLION FRICKIN' TIMES.

And a lot of their songs do sound very similar, which doesn't help. We Will Rock You and We Are The Champions are basically the same song but with a different beat.

The Bicycle one annoys the hell out of me because I heard it a lot when I was a kid and I thought it was stupid then, it's even *more* stupid now.

I Want To Break Free is painfully, painfully camp. Hurts.

Don't Stop Me Now is the only one I can listen to without being totally annoyed. But even that one has some problems. Repetativeness, mainly.