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#391 mohammedali

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 01:41 PM

Um....no they didn't? Because they made all that fuss about the Triforce being used and the pieces flying off and such.

Zelda still has the ToW on her hand in the WW ending even though the King is touching the whole Triforce.

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 03:15 PM

Fyxe. It's a simple battle tactic: If your enemy knows where you are, don't be there. The castle may be relatively safe at the time, but Zelda and Impa wouldn't have returned if they knew Ganondorf went after the Triforce. Because once he came back, no amount of soldiers could protect them. You're right though about outside castle not being any safer. Which is why the only way Zelda could protect herself is not just be somwhere else, but BE someone else. Which is exactly what she does in OoT's dark future.

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 03:15 PM

Zelda tells Link to return the MS and close the Door of Time, that is clearly open in the ending. Therefore, Zelda has already flied away. But since Zelda is in the castle, we can assume Ganon has been sealed. It's the only possibility.

Eh? We have never been told how much time Ganon spends in the Sacred Realm. Also, we are never told if Zelda returned to the castle or not. So you can't tell I'm contradicting canon. And your theory isn't possible in a single timeline because Ganon can't be sealed in the past and be free in that past's future!

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 06:19 PM

Fyxe. It's a simple battle tactic: If your enemy knows where you are, don't be there. The castle may be relatively safe at the time, but Zelda and Impa wouldn't have returned if they knew Ganondorf went after the Triforce. Because once he came back, no amount of soldiers could protect them. You're right though about outside castle not being any safer. Which is why the only way Zelda could protect herself is not just be somwhere else, but BE someone else. Which is exactly what she does in OoT's dark future.


Well, yes. But until then, the castle is as good a place as any, I assume. It'd be better than it previously was.

I'm just working on the ending. It's hard to imagine Link coming back before Zelda has fled with Impa, especially because in-game text says it isn't, and the fact that Link has the ToC proves it isn't. It's definitely not a replay of the first meeting with Zelda. So we can just assume that Zelda goes back to the castle at some point. Why, I don't know, but there's no other option.

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 10:54 PM

As good a place as any? Akay, if we assume this was all after Ganondorf had followed Link into the Temple of Time, Zelda would've assumed Ganondorf got his nasty paws on the Triforce by then. Being in Hyrule castle would be the last place she'd wanna be, no matter how peaceful things seemed. No amount of guards could protect her from Ganon. The whole place is a lavafilled CRATER when you arrive in the future. Yeah, that beefed up security sure helped.

I don't know about uyou but a Triforce crest that takes some time to fade away or a replay of the same scene at a different angle seems more logical than Zelda returning to castle for God knows why.

Also, exactly what in-game text does it contradict?

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 11:02 PM

It'll be too long to post in here. But anyhow I have a thread on my timeline. And I'm certain it is the perfect timeline. Thank you all and make way for the HeroOfTime's Zelda Timeline!

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 10:53 AM

I don't know about uyou but a Triforce crest that takes some time to fade away or a replay of the same scene at a different angle seems more logical than Zelda returning to castle for God knows why.

Also, exactly what in-game text does it contradict?


1 - The crests have never taken time to 'fade away'. That's a bad assumption to make, and clearly not the intended assumption the player is meant to make.

2 - It's not the same scene at different angles. It just isn't, and cannot be. Zelda turns much sooner, for instance. There are other differences.

3 - Zelda told Link to put the Master Sword back and close the Door of Time - she would not of said this if she was sending him back before the DoT was open and before the Master Sword was drawn. She just wouldn't.

Look, I'm just going with what the game is showing. It shows Link and Zelda back at Hyrule Castle at a scene which seems for all intents and purposes to be set after the DoT was open and the Master Sword was drawn.

If you have any problem with Zelda being in the castle, don't complain to me because I didn't make the game. O.o''

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 11:03 AM

I see you all are confused with the timeline, correct? Well, I think I can explain some of these things. Anyways, HeroOfTime5 and I have been doing a lot of timeline debating over at Zelda Universe, and we (okay, and five other people) actually got a new sub-forum to be created for timeline discussion. Okay, here's what I think happens at the end of OoT.

Zelda sends Link back in time, we know that. She says that he must lay the Master Sword to rest and close the Door of Time. So, if she doesn't want history to repeat itself, what does she do? She sends Link back to after he drew the Master Sword (because it's impossible for him to be sent back to before he did it) but after Ganondorf entered the Sacred Realm. When Link closes the Door of Time, he seals Ganon away inside the Sacred Realm. This fits nicely with some text on the Seal War in ALttP which talks of Ganon not being able to find his way out of the Golden Land. This is known as the "metaphorical hole" on ZU, because in a way he has fallen into a hole and he can't get out. When Ganon gets the Triforce, it will split, which won't contradict the events before TWW.

Edited by Master of ALttP, 11 July 2006 - 11:03 AM.


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Posted 11 July 2006 - 11:45 AM

The well thing implies that history is set in stone; Link has already played the Song of Storms in the past, even though he hasn;t yet don it in the future. Thus Ganon does destroy Hyrule Castleand rule for nearly 7 years; he will escape the SR in OoT.

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 11:53 AM

I see you all are confused with the timeline, correct? Well, I think I can explain some of these things. Anyways, HeroOfTime5 and I have been doing a lot of timeline debating over at Zelda Universe, and we (okay, and five other people) actually got a new sub-forum to be created for timeline discussion. Okay, here's what I think happens at the end of OoT.

Zelda sends Link back in time, we know that. She says that he must lay the Master Sword to rest and close the Door of Time. So, if she doesn't want history to repeat itself, what does she do? She sends Link back to after he drew the Master Sword (because it's impossible for him to be sent back to before he did it) but after Ganondorf entered the Sacred Realm. When Link closes the Door of Time, he seals Ganon away inside the Sacred Realm. This fits nicely with some text on the Seal War in ALttP which talks of Ganon not being able to find his way out of the Golden Land. This is known as the "metaphorical hole" on ZU, because in a way he has fallen into a hole and he can't get out. When Ganon gets the Triforce, it will split, which won't contradict the events before TWW.


This theory doesn't work, because in TWW Ganon had been sealed by the Seven Sages. And though the MS can be a wonderful seal if you want, it's not the Sages' Seal. The only theory I have found that explain those facts without contradicting anyone just works in a split timeline, and it is considering that the Sages' Seal of the Future Timeline trascends timelines, that Ganondorf is sealed in both. I ellaborated more on this time ago in this topic, and I don't want to bring it oput, because this would turn everything really repetitive.

EDIT: Personally I'm not confused with timeline, I just love discussing it.

Edited by Arturo, 11 July 2006 - 12:43 PM.





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