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[krismas]

oo but the thing is inuyasha is considered violent as theres like mad fights so they kept it on ad.naruto really should be on it...dunno y u would take all of that good stuff out jus to put it on cn...makes no sense

[Chikara Nadir]

Believe me. I know what looks dumb and what doesn't thankyou very much

Posting twice in the same thread only to say that you don't like the subject is what we like to call spam. Please don't do it.

And InuYasha does still have enough violence to be Adult Swim-worthy...which is exactly what Naruto originally was, before their mad cutting to have it 'appeal to a larger audience'. Which makes it sad that by trying to 'appeal to more people', it's just pissing off more fans into not wanting to see it at all.

As a side note..Kris, could you please try to use full words and at least put spaces between the period and the first word of the next sentence? It'd just make reading your posts a little easier. ^^;

[krismas]

lmao well since you asked so nicely chik! yea and i totally agree with ur post. why would you want to turn off such loyal fans for such meaningless fresh viewers? dont they know that that only leads to disaster?

[Gabe Puratekuta]

If I was a Naruto fan before they started showing it, then I'm not anymore

[krismas]

ouch!!...i odnt blame you though...dam u cartoon network execs!!!!!

[Gabe Puratekuta]

They will never corrupt Ranma 1/2 in such a manner!!!! Nor in the manner they did with Dragonball Z!!! STORY IS IMPORTANT!!!!

[krismas]

lol prolly not as bad as naruto but u never know...but niether do i!

[Custommagnum]

And InuYasha does still have enough violence to be Adult Swim-worthy...which is exactly what Naruto originally was, before their mad cutting to have it 'appeal to a larger audience'. Which makes it sad that by trying to 'appeal to more people', it's just pissing off more fans into not wanting to see it at all.
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Exactly. The only reason I started watching Naruto in the first place was because the writing group that I'm apart of, The Diaries Guild, currently has a fic called Naruto Diaries. I wanted to understand what was going on in that.

So I watched the first episode, and thought it was cool.

Then I found out that we were probably going to get nowhere in a year's worth of time.

Therefore I went for the Manga, and grinned at the sight of all the blood.

So the lesson of this thread is: read the manga, don't give the Toonami dub credit and wait until the DVD's come out, and laugh at the people who are three story arcs behind because they waited for cartoon network to show episodes 53-104.

(That last part is exaguration).

I'm currently on Manga Chapter 120.

[krismas]

ive watched the japanese dvd's. dont know the ep isode num and i dont wanna spoil anything so i wont say what im up to. and yes, its time to rebel against tooonami.evry get the remotes ready and change at the site of naruto on cn!!

[Gabe Puratekuta]

As i've said before, I've only seen the first two epps. Unfortunately, they were on CN....*gives self Ranma inauculation to make Naruto CN memories go away*

[dcLx]

Ranma 1/2 is the best

[Gabe Puratekuta]

Yes. Yes, it is

[BrendantheJedi]

The dub, to be quite frank, sucks. While it isn't as bad as say, One Piece or any other 4kids dub, it still sucks. Not all the characters seem bad (heck I like Kakashi), but Naruto himself is what ruins it for me. The way he talks is annoying. Also he the way he say believe it every 5 seconds makes me and my friends want to kill him.

[Gabe Puratekuta]

I cannot be in any more in agreement with you than I am now

[Chikara Nadir]

Ranma is the best? Pfft. If you're talking about the anime, it's drivel compared to the manga. And if you're talking about the manga...it's fine for a while, but after twenty or thirty volumes of them going through the same issues with little plot change, it gets old. Of all of Rumiko Takahashi's works, InuYasha's still my fave.

Oi, and now you've got me thinking, Brendan. One thing I dislike about the dub is the obsession with saying Naruto's name (and mispronouncing it every time). It can't be "that punk kid", it hasta be "that punk Naruto". It can't be "I don't like him", it hasta be "I don't like that Naruto". "Naruto's an idiot, but Naruto is also great at surprising people, which makes Naruto blah blah blah..." They can be staring directly at the guy and pointing their finger at him, and still find it necessary to say his name when making any reference about him, as though otherwise we won't know who they're talking about. XP

[Gabe Puratekuta]

Ranma is the best? Pfft. If you're talking about the anime, it's drivel compared to the manga. And if you're talking about the manga...it's fine for a while, but after twenty or thirty volumes of them going through the same issues with little plot change, it gets old. Of all of Rumiko Takahashi's works, InuYasha's still my fave.

Oi, and now you've got me thinking, Brendan. One thing I dislike about the dub is the obsession with saying Naruto's name (and mispronouncing it every time). It can't be "that punk kid", it hasta be "that punk Naruto". It can't be "I don't like him", it hasta be "I don't like that Naruto". "Naruto's an idiot, but Naruto is also great at surprising people, which makes Naruto blah blah blah..." They can be staring directly at the guy and pointing their finger at him, and still find it necessary to say his name when making any reference about him, as though otherwise we won't know who they're talking about. XP

That's just retarded

[Bond Extreme]

I actually watched some of this one episode last night and it was pretty boring. Talk, talk, and more talk. A little fightning but with a lot of the talking.

[Chikara Nadir]

Obviously you haven't seen Dragonball Z. XD Now that show has a lotta talk with little going on, most of the time.

[Bond Extreme]

Well actually I have seen DragonBall, DBZ, and Dragon Ball GT. Yes those shows are also very boring. I remember some of the last episodes in DBZ where they just talked for 3 episodes staight....

[BrendantheJedi]

You know, both of you are wrongs. FLCL is the best anime evar! It is short, funny, and has uber rapid plot development. It is one of those shows which gets better with each viewing. If only it had a sequel (preferably movie or just 6 more episodes)

Inuyasha is great, but way too long. I haven't seen Ranma, but knowing it is from Rumiko Takashi as well, it probably suffers from the same problems.

[Gabe Puratekuta]

TAKAHASHI-SAMA PWNS ALL!!!!

[dcLx]

The dub, to be quite frank, sucks. While it isn't as bad as say, One Piece or any other 4kids dub, it still sucks. Not all the characters seem bad (heck I like Kakashi), but Naruto himself is what ruins it for me. The way he talks is annoying. Also he the way he say believe it every 5 seconds makes me and my friends want to kill him.

I like One Piece and Shaman King...

But Heck Yeah...Naruto is SOOOO Annoyhing in this one

[Custommagnum]

Yeah, we should look on the bright side. Haku's still a boy.

[Dai Grepher]

I think Haku is a girl posing as a boy, and I will not think otherwise until I see proof that she is not.

[Dai Grepher]

Naruto was intended for kids in Japan. Yes, it has killing and blood (Maybe nudity, but I don't remember seeing any nudity in Naruto), but the censors in Japan are more different then America, Japanese kids are much more mature than American kids.

Dai Grepher: No, they are just products of a sexually deviant society.

[Custommagnum]

I think Haku is a girl posing as a boy, and I will not think otherwise until I see proof that she is not.

Haku is a boy. He says he's a boy, and every SINGLE freaking time he's referred to with a pronoun the pronoun is 'he'. The whole "But he's prettier that Sakura!" was more of a joke on bishounen than anything else.

[Chikara Nadir]

Actually, the dub has been prounouncing Naruto's name right.

Mmm...nope. They haven't been. I may be able to speak Japanese on the level of a three year old, but the difference in pronunciation of a lot of their names still sounds grating to me.

Naruto's VA is a beginner, so give her a break

I know she's a beginner. The point is that they should NOT have put a beginner into the lead role of a series that much anticipated. And the voice is...similar to the original one, but still not all that perfect (though admittedly, it's hard to do with a generally small selection of American VA's).

It has less edits, they keep the original names, and they actually call the Sharingan Eye the Sharingan Eye instead of the "evil eye" like in the manga.

They says Sharingan in all the official Shonen Jump manga that I have.


Anyway...Dai, Haku's a boy. Get over it. The mystery to his gender is supposed to be a joke, and I think him having the soft features and gentleness of a girl is supposed to accent how innocent his mind is (he doesn't find joy in killing - he just wants to be a perfect tool to make Zabuza happy).

And Dai - if you want to see a deviant society, you'd better remember that we live in a culture that includes families with small children who like to sit around the tv watching professional wrestlers beat the crud out of each other while scantily clad, fake-breasted women cheer them on. Please try to keep the talk about personal morals and beliefs about society to the Contro section.

[Dai Grepher]

Haku is a boy. He says he's a boy, and every SINGLE freaking time he's referred to with a pronoun the pronoun is 'he'. The whole "But he's prettier that Sakura!" was more of a joke on bishounen than anything else.

Dai Grepher: Haku has said before that deceiving your opponent is essential in battle. How do you know that Haku calling herself a boy is not a deception to protect her true identity? If her moto were about being deceptive to the opponent then why would she outright say that she is a boy? Wouldn’t it be better having them believe her to be a female, who we all know are weaker in battle? Also, all those other times she was called a boy it was by people who were told Haku was a boy.

Anyway...Dai, Haku's a boy. Get over it. The mystery to his gender is supposed to be a joke, and I think him having the soft features and gentleness of a girl is supposed to accent how innocent his mind is (he doesn't find joy in killing - he just wants to be a perfect tool to make Zabuza happy).

Dai Grepher: Like I said, I will not be convinced of that until I see proof. Her battle clothing is a dress, she has painted fingernails, she wore a pink dress when she found Naruto in the forest, she has long hair, some of which she keeps in a "Chung Li" type hair bonnet, and her voice is acted out by a woman. Now, I know that last one is not really strong evidence because many male anime characters have female voiceover artists. However, most of these male characters are little kids and only a very few are teens or adults. The only one that I can think of right now is that one from Inuyasha that was one of the band of seven, but there were a lot of things that gave that character away as a male.

And Dai - if you want to see a deviant society, you'd better remember that we live in a culture that includes families with small children who like to sit around the tv watching professional wrestlers beat the crud out of each other while scantily clad, fake-breasted women cheer them on. Please try to keep the talk about personal morals and beliefs about society to the Contro section.

Dai Grepher: The WWE is entertainment for older teens and adults. If some people allow their children to watch it then it is their choice and their problem. Also, the fans know that it is fake, so they know that it is hurting no one. They do not enjoy it because of the things you stated.

[Fyxe]

Dai Grepher: No, they are just products of a sexually deviant society.

What, and America isn't sexually deviant?

This is the most bemusing thing I've seen. In a discussion about censorship, Dai comes up with this totally random quote that makes little to no sense.

I'm sorry, Dai, but when it comes to censorship, they totally screw the hell out of animes shown in America. They remove references to death, or hell, and most kids watching uncensored anime will not turn into some kind of twisted weirdo.

And I have no idea how it would make them sexually deviant, and why that has any relevance.

Anyway, on the subject of Naruto - they have stupid headband things. Stupid stupid stupid.