Ganondorf and the Dark World

#91 MikePetersSucks

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 08:47 PM

Because the Sword has never been through his brain into his SPINE for centuries BEFORE! -.-; the Sword repels evil! obvious long exposers will kill someone

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 12:07 AM

ok...im not gonna bother reading the entire thread since it will only confuse the Mah and thats bad...
the thing is, we really dont know how Ganon got a hold of the entire triforce and exactly how the Sacred Realm or Golden Land became entirely corrupted (well...the logical theory on the last point is that in OoT, the Sacred Realm began to become a world of evil due to the Wish of Ganondorf)...we also dont know exactly how Ganondorf became Ganon...theorize all you want but there is no real answer...i feel the next games will tell us..

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 12:37 AM

Actually, come to think of it, is there ever a time where the Master Sword is said to specifically repel evil? I mean, it was created to withstand the power granted by the tri-force, it's called The Sword of Evil's Bane simply because it's never had to be used against a goodhearted person (and as far as we know against anybody who isn't Ganon) and really never could be considering it could only be used by a purehearted person.

Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is this, once Ganon is no longer in possesion of the Triforce of Power would the Master Sword be any more use than a conventional weapon? Not that a normal sword plunged into the brain and down the spinal cord wouldn't generally kill a person, then again, Ganon has proved time and time again to be more than just your average every day guy.

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 12:40 AM

but dude..in ALttP, the Master Sword was used for the reason of repelling the magic of Agahnim...for some reason in OoT and WW it was used as the sword that could kill Ganon...
this makes me think....is the Silver Arrows in the first three games made from the same stuff as the Master Sword? they arent the Master Sword melted down since we see Link weild both in ALttP...

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 12:53 AM

Actually, it's always either the light arrows or the silver arrows that kill Ganon, not really the sword, they're the only consistency throughout the games as far as killing/banishing/sealing/generally getting rid of Ganon goes...as far as I can tell anyway.

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 03:37 AM

Actually, it's always either the light arrows or the silver arrows that kill Ganon, not really the sword, they're the only consistency throughout the games as far as killing/banishing/sealing/generally getting rid of Ganon goes...as far as I can tell anyway.

Nope. Never the Light Arrows. They never killed Ganondorf/Ganon. They were only used to stun him.

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 03:01 PM

Oh...okay. Makes sense, in OoT he never really dies anyway does he, he's just banished, so it makes sense that the silver and light arrows are completely separate.

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 05:11 PM

If we go by your theory...then that's one too many events that are unaccounted for in the LTTP backstory and game itself.

1) Ganon returns/ ravages Hyrule; 2) the Gods flood Hyrule to stop him; 3) the events of the wind waker; 4) the lands reconnecting or whatever; 5) a new Kindom being established; 6) the events of LoZ and FSA; 7) and Ganon ending up back in the Sacred Realm with the united Triforce...

That's too much vital and I mean really vital info that LTTP misses out on if we go by your far shot theory. I could understand if some of it becomes obscured, but all of it--that's ridiculous! Some of those events were just as important as the Imprisoning War! That's too much pertinent history that was skipped over. I don't buy it.

Is it really that far-fetched? Anyways, I'm not exactly married to the idea. It just works for me settings-wise because with that you see that in LoZ and AoL, the great sea islands have become one big forest so at least one part of the Deku Tree's prophecy became true. The foresty area later become incorporated into the new lands up north and to the north-east founded by Link and the pirates. Then we have everyone moving back to the old Hyrule in LttP which completes the Deku Tree's prophecy with everyone being a one nation again.

Any obscurities of the events between OoT and LttP could be explain by the fact that in LoZ, the people lived in a desolate era of chaos and ignorance. So any recorded history (including the great flood and the founding of the new Hyrule) probably became lost or undecipherable. It could be that the people forgot ancient Hylian (we know this to be true in LttP) so they probably couldn't even read there own recorded history, much less record any recent events. The only thing that survived were the Legend of the Hero and most of the IW.

Also, we see that in TWW's backstory, the Hero of Time is percieved as some sort of "god" or great guardian that can cross the boundaries of Time and save them no matter what era it was. So any breakouts of Ganon with a green-clad hero appearing out of no where to stop him would just be automatically pinned to the collective Legend of the Hero.

There's also the other possibilitiy that these events were indeed remembered and recorded in text books but just weren't mentioned in LttP because they weren't important to what was going right then and there. Hyrule was in peril. Link doesn't have the time to listen to a complete history to the exact whens and hows of Ganon's each and every outbreak. He only needs to know how it all began and how to defeat him right now.

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 05:52 PM

There's also the other possibilitiy that these events were indeed remembered and recorded in text books but just weren't mentioned in LttP because they weren't important to what was going right then and there. Hyrule was in peril. Link doesn't have the time to listen to a complete history to the exact whens and hows of Ganon's each and every outbreak. He only needs to know how it all began and how to defeat him right now.

How about they should focus on the last time Ganon was sealed as opposed to the 1st time he was sealed--that's if Ganon ever escaped after the IW. Yes--you heard--if he ever escaped after the IW. We don't know if OOT is officially the IW...we don't know if the events in TWW happened before LTTP. As I was saying the LTTP backstory makes it seem as if Ganon was always inside of the Dark World since the time he was sealed in the IW. Also, the LTTP backstory and also some of the information revealed by the maidens in LTTP makes it seems as if the only time Ganon was sealed was in the IW. One maiden spoke about how the knights would hold off Ganon's forces while the sages did their sealing.