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[MikePetersSucks]

Tingle has been in every non-remake game since he entered in MM.

Yea, and Octoroks have been in every game PERIOD, but that doesn't mean that they're the Guardians of the Triforce or some long-forgotten race that built the Tower of the Gods.

[D~N]

This is so off-topic, so I had an idea. What if there was a thread that was for when people get off topic in the zelda timeline (this happens quite [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img], I'm seeing), they can go to the thread (if they don't want to start a whole new thread), talk it over, and when they are done and satisfied, they can delete their coments for the next arguement. Any rules against this, or people against this? ANY-way, I'm getting off topic about a thread for when you get off topic , so, I'll gt back on track. Now, should the MC be before or after LttP and LA?????? Because I'm clueless here, but neither seem to be wrong...But which is more 'correct'?

[Crazy Penguin]

Now, should the MC be before or after LttP and LA?????? Because I'm clueless here, but neither seem to be wrong...But which is more 'correct'?

It works better before because Ganon obtains the trident in Four Swords Adventures and the Dark World exists.

[Chaltab]

Yeah, FSA and there fore Minish Cap need to come before AlttP because of the reason Crazy Penguin gave.

OoT-MM  | WW-Z'05  | MC-ALttP-LA  | LoZ-AoL-OoX | FS-FSA

FSA throws a monkey wrench into so many older timelines it is ridiculous, and it has to fall somewhere befor ALttP, but all that does is make it harder and harder for OoT to be the Imprisoning War

[D~N]

It doesn't have to be before, unless you are refering to the palce of the 4swords. That, I belive, is not important, although you may think otherwise, but it was an add-on to make the game longer. Besides, I don't evern know how to get in or what there is to do there. I havn't played FS, because of lack of people.... So I can't get in. So I will disreguard it until I know what goes on in there.

[MikePetersSucks]

1) FS and FSA should go atleast a century before LTTP. It paves the way for the Imprisoning War perfectly, the geography is undeniable, and it's a seperate Link.
2) Obviously, TMC comes before any other FS game, so right there it's before FS. But there's geography, characters, and general plotholes, along with the origin of several key Zelda plot elements, so I would put it as early as possible.
3) You can't just disregard something because you haven't played it >.> That's a Mike-Petersism. The Palace of the Four Sword is right inside the Pyramid of Power. You basically gather the four individual swords, defeat Shadow Link, and reconstruct the Four Sword and place it in it's proper Sanctuary. Since it's part of a retcon, it can be taken as canon. There's a big difference in things like hidden items and hidden DUNGEONS O_o
4) If we DO take it as canon, that makes the FSA>LTTP Connection even MORE solid. Vaati is gone and Ganon is sealed away. The Four Sword may have either acted as a portal to the Dark World, or the Four Sword could have been placed in the Sacred Realm. Either way, Ganon gets to the Dark World, breaks up the Four Sword and seals them, and either finds the Shadow Link that got away in FSA (long story) or he could've created one to guard the Palace.
5) Speaking of the Dark World, your placement of FS-FSA is inaccurate. The Dark World is destroyed after LTTP, and Ganon never travels there again to create it, so it can't exist. Thusly, FS-FSA HAVE to be moved.

[D~N]

Hmmm, I'll move FS(A) indeed, but where should MC go then?
OoT-MM|WW-Z'05|FS-FSA|LttP-LA|LoZ-AoL-OoX
But wait, then isn't this your timeline?????? Or very close to it?????

[Crazy Penguin]

Hmmm, I'll move FS(A) indeed, but where should MC go then?

Before Four Swords, there's no reason to break the Four Sword storyline up.

[D~N]

I know that, but where??? I like to think there was no hero before OoT, why, I don't know . I think we've established that it can't be WW link, somewhere in this thread. Or did we?......... What about this- *|OoT-MM|WW-Z'05|(MC??)|LoZ-AoL-OoX|FS-FSA|LttP-LA|* -does this work???????? But now there is 6 links NOOOO! Must. covert. back. to. 5. linkism....

[Zythe]

Look at our timelines. Compare. Get the idea of where it belongs.

[Crazy Penguin]

I know that, but where???

As I said, there's no reason to break the Four Sword story arc up, so The Minish Cap would work best just before Four Swords, no games inbetween The Minish Cap and Four Swords.

[Zythe]

LttP-FS-FSA. And TMC can go anywhere before FS.

[Crazy Penguin]

Why Link to the Past before Four Swords? All of the evidence I've come across seems to suggest the opposite.

[D~N]

Hmmm, this is quite a delema. Does this work out, or am I just being an idiot again-
*OoT-MM|WW-Z'05|MC|FS-FSA|LttP-LA|LoZ-AoL-OoX|*
But now this is Mikepeter's theory, except the placing of MC, now I don't like it

[Zythe]

Why Link to the Past before Four Swords? All of the evidence I've come across seems to suggest the opposite.

Geography, IW, Palace of the Four Swords.

D~N: I think your t/l is the same as Zol's or Octo's...

[Hero of Slime]

D~N: I think your t/l is the same as Zol's or Octo's...

How? All my timelines are split.

[D~N]

It's not octo's but I don't know what Zol's is, so I can't tell you that....
Edit-->:never mind, Zol explained.<--Edit
Anyway, I want to swich, now that I have the same as someone else, so here we go-
*OoT-MM |WW(MC)-Z05|(MC)-LoZ-AoL-OoX | FS-FSA | ALttP-LA |*
Which one works better? (of the MC placements)

[Hero of Slime]

Put MC after WW. The Links look the same.

[Crazy Penguin]

It's not octo's but I don't know what Zol's is, so I can't tell you that....
Edit-->:never mind, Zol explained.<--Edit
Anyway, I want to swich, now that I have the same as someone else, so here we go-
*OoT-MM |WW(MC)-Z05|(MC)-LoZ-AoL-OoX | FS-FSA | ALttP-LA |*
Which one works better? (of the MC placements)

Nobody could possibly say because the new Zelda game hasn't even been released yet and next to nothing is known about its story. What is clear though is that Link in TMC is not the same Link as WW.

[Octorok]

If I were you, I wouldn't even bother to put Z'05 in your timeline. No one really knows anything about it or it's placement yet, as it has not been released.

[D~N]

Thanks, but I just realized it doesn't work anyways; LttP has to be before LoZ. sooooo, what about this (here we go....)
*MC | OoT-MM | WW | FS-FSA | ALttP-LA | LoZ-AoL-OoX*
Wait, no this is Mike peter's i don't like this!!! any suggestions on how to change it so it still works and isn't his timeline???

[Octorok]

Put the Sleeping Zelda at the beginning, and th IW between OoT and MM. That way, even though the games are in the same order, the other events that take place outside of games are in a different order than they would be according to MPS. Don't call him Mike Peters, he obviously hates that guy.

[Crazy Penguin]

Thanks, but I just realized it doesn't work anyways; LttP has to be before LoZ.  sooooo, what about this (here we go....)
*MC | OoT-MM | WW | FS-FSA | ALttP-LA | LoZ-AoL-OoX*
Wait, no this is Mike peter's i don't like this!!! any suggestions on how to change it so it still works and isn't his timeline???

Why separate The Minish Cap from the Four Swords games? And we've established at it doesn't come before Majora's Mask because of the Tingle brothers for one thing. Put TMC just before FS and everything's hunky dory.

And these kinds of discussions aren't really supposed to be about trying to stand out from the crowd, but how the Zelda games fit together and reference each other. If you want to be different then you might as well argue that Wind Waker takes place before Ocarina of Time, but you'd be wrong.

[D~N]

yeah, there's that, but it can't hurt to have a unique timeline, unless it was TOTALY out of order. Oh, and octo, I know he hates 'em, but that is an unnecicary swearing word that I am trying not to use on the website, because it shows a lack of intelligence, but then again, it is his name, so eh, wacha' gonna' do??? Alright heres the final one (I hope)
OoT-MM | WW | TMC | FS-FSA | ALttP-LA | LoZ-AoL-OoX ----happynes ^^
although I still see nothing wrong with MC being WW link, but ah well what's done is done.

[Octorok]

What's an un-necessary swear word?

Anyway, Penguin we have NOT established anything about TMC's placement in relation to FS and FSA. Many people, including myself, believe that it was the first game in the timeline.

[Crazy Penguin]

If you're going with the idea of Oracle Link being NES Link then that still carries the problems of the way Impa and Zelda act around him, the fact that Twinrova aren't opting for the simpler revival plan of obtaining his blood and that he doesn't look to be 16 years old at all.

[D~N]

I believe all curses are inapropriate for talking on a forum, ONLINE, because in real lifem you only say them because you don't know what to say really, and it comes out like OOWW my fu***** hand, AW F***!!! When on the internet, you can use inhanced vocabulary instead of the uneducated swearing. But what the hey- MikePetersSucks-

Anyway-I always thought he looked around 16-17, but thats my opinion. But I've been thinking, and I believe that the upcoming game won't be a sequel to WW, and may be the OoX link, so if OoX went in his own little timespot, that would work just fine. So now, I'm going to move it 1 space over, with one '|' inbetween.
OoT-MM | WW | TMC | FS-FSA | ALttP-LA | LoZ-AoL | OoX-(Z'05??)|
does that solve all visible problems, even if there are 7 darn Links!! I hope so, this has been a long thread.....

[Octorok]

Uh, I don't think the word "sucks" is an actual swear word.

Anyway, it's like I said: leave Z'05 out of your timeline until it is actually released.

[Crazy Penguin]

Looks fine enough to me. The Oracle games are very ambiguous, I should start a thread on them some day once I've checked some stuff out.

Anyway, Penguin we have NOT established anything about TMC's placement  in relation to FS and FSA. Many people, including myself, believe that it was the first game in the timeline.

You'd have to ignore the whole Tingle thing and have numerous Ganon attacks and a flood inbetween the Four Sword trilogy then.