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[deep]

I don't pay a ton of attention to Natures because it involves catching multiples/breeding, neither of which particularly appeal to me.

But in the next update, I show off that Nidoking's ability is Defiant. His other option is Poison Touch, so I think I got pretty lucky.

He also doesn't learn Earth Power in the hack! Which is kind of a bummer.

[Twinrova]

Her name is Rova.



I catch her in the heart ball. <3

; u;!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This makes up for the Nosepass shenanigans. <3

[Sir Deimos]

Iunno. He never showed proof it's name is Rova. It could be something devious.

[Twinrova]

I trust him.




...
I'm going to have to trust him.

[deep]

IMGUR IS DOWN AAAGH

So while I'm waiting, here Rova!

[JRPomazon]

Chapter 23, Part II - The Big Reveal



Oh shit! Jerp!

Gotta name him Montoya.

I CAN SEE FOREVER.

[Veteran]

Serene nature? ELABORATE

[deep]

Chapter 24 - I Have ADD



N strategy. I learned quite quickly that the littlebit of health from Leftovers didn't outweigh my need to murder stuff faster.



oh but wait what's over here



[Baseball & steroids joke.]



I like guard NPCs. They only fight you at night time! And they usually only rock dogs.



I also rock dogs.



Gojira puts his feet into faces.



Braviary is one of my favorite Pokemon.

Too bad it evolves like a dragon.



woah woah put that away I will sick a giant purple murderbeast on you so fast



...but you aren't moving?



pew pew pew



I rolled with a Druddigon in my first playthrough.

Want a dragon who isn't useless until level 60?!

BUY A DRUDDIGON!

I'm sort of scared of random NPCs just rollin with dragons though.



And by scared I mean I have a new Ice attack.



Gojira's got Defiant. If any of his stats get lowered, even evasion or accuracy, his attack stat raises two levels.

So Intimidate procs Defiant and gives me +1 attack before the battle even begins. I love Intimidate.



I love a world where everyone's got starters. Socialism.




Oh jeez. Random trainers with dragons is already coming true.



I don't often bother paralyzing stuff unless I plan to catch it. But I don't trifle with no dragons.



Signal Beam has been so great on Queso. I never really realized how useful of an attacking type Bug is.



Yeah it's pretty strong with Queso's solid attack stats.



I usually ease up when opponents are near death and use a weaker attack with more PP, because I am frugal to a fault.



This game is breaking me of that habit.



He's got a bunch of dragons.



Shelgon is a hilarious concept to me.



YOUR HELMET BODY WON'T SAVE YOU



Also there was a Zweilous.

I weep for my prospects if I'm caught without an Ice attack if things keep progressing like that.



Look at these here bitchin stats. After he evolved, Cool Ranch is either first or second in every stat but speed. He's a wee bit slow.








Mothims are cool. That's it.



Yeah that's right I heal mid-battle too don't judge



I do miss those few points of defense. But mmm that attack.



Marvelous!



Marvelous!



Extra heavy backpack.



pfffffff Dig, really?



SHOCKING



He's got a Porygon, which must be a great for... hiking...



He's trying so hard to beat me.

Except Gojira is immune to electricity.

C'mon, Hacker, this is your improved AI?

Hey, Mr. Backpacker, have you ever ran into



BIGFOOT?



Really Stantler? Intimidate? You're a deer!



h-hey, that's my job





Welcome to the Hacker's favorite new area of the game. He specifically mentions how proud of the encounter table he is.

I don't have waterfall, so I can't do quite everything, but let's see what we can dig out.



Next time.

[Twinrova]

IMGUR IS DOWN AAAGH

You know Imgur deletes your images if no one's viewed them in like 6 months or something like that right?

So while I'm waiting, here Rova!

; u; She's....she's beautiful! <3

[deep]

Chapter 25 - Lostlorn Forest: The Hunt for a Legendary



Lostlorn Forest isn't all that special in vanilla. It's home to a mute lady in a trailer.

I think she's a Zorua or something dumb and event-based that a normal player will never see.

Only Peking can learn Calm Mind. He's a physical attacker, so that's sort of a bust.



Bronies.

No trainers in here. All wild pokemon. Let's do this.



For whatever reason, Riolu and Lucario remind me of Sonic.





These are "grill rings" doritos.

_{^{(I'm sort of out of Doritos at this point okay?!)}}



Vullaby was one of the version-locked Pokemon. He's kind of the opposite of Braviary and Honchkrow. Unimpressive attack, stellar defenses.








This forest has a couple different dragons.







Is Yuzu... lemon?






...that's so sad!

You'll be safe in my PC box forever, little guy.

So that's...

Axew, Bagon, Deino... missed Gible. Gonna get my dragons merit badge soon!




Oh no way! Catchin the shit out of this.

I name it Larvesta.

Oh, and wanna see a neat trick?











ta-da!

It evolves with a Sun Stone these days, rather than level 59.

ALSO it's ability is Drought.

You know, Drought? Groudon's ability?

50% boost to fire attacks? Permanently?

Stat-wise, Volcarano and Arcanine are roughly equal, but Drought gives Volcarona a slight edge.


Well. You saw a stream. This is the first body of water I've seen in a while. Let's see what's biting.



aaaand?








I remember fishing you guys up in the Safari Zone!



...and then giving the fuck up and buying one at the Game Corner.



Habanero is his name!


I cast my line out again and reel in...



A Dragonair! That proceeds to tear my team a new asshole!

Cool Ranch was in the box to make room for Verde.

I fight this one, and run away from each one after that...


The stream also has Barboach and



Whiscash that outlevel me.

They also give out insane experience.

I catch a Barboach before I see what Whiscash. His name is Mayo.
_{^{(I've already linked Roe Mayo, Tuna Mayo and Wasabi Mayo doritos. Just imagine one of those in your head right now.)}}

My prize, however, has a 1% encounter rate.

Normally, I don't fuck with fishing for 1% encounters because fishing involves too much conscious thought.




However, because I only have three gym badges and have therefore completed what, 25% of the game tops?

The novelty of catching this:











was irresistable.

It's level 50. Base stats =

90 - 80 - 85 - 140 - 150 - 105

The battle is grueling.



SEE

GRUELING






Ain't no thang.



I've got Cool Ranch, and Phione is now Cooler.



And with that, it's time to exit Lostlorn Forest.

But a few errands while I'm in the area:




I needed a NeverMeltIce for Cool Ranch now that he's evolved, so I caught a Smoochum. How convenient.



This one might fit Kissy a little more.


Also, I have a tree to cut down!



Okay back in your Poke ball.



Cut continues to not really be worth it.


Oh, I also need to move this rock...






He's just an HM slave now.



This is a backpacker's Wartortle.

I WANT A SQUIRTLE DAMMIT



Meh.



This goes immediately on Volcarona.

159 base special attack + Fire attack + STAB + Drought + Charcoal = Pain.




Oh... uh... hey little guy.

Are you lost? This is kind of a forest...



3000experiencewithoneBulldoze.png



pffft screw off Hoothoot nobody likes you





oh someone got pooper peeved and grabbed his posse huh

I murder that Hoothoot and enslave his friend.

His new name is Ziggy.



Hoothoot man keep bringing all your awesome friends!


I name his sharp buddy Tex.






I catch it because I don't know why.

His name is Ham.



Because Ham and Cheese pizza Doritos is a thing.




I still love Drain-Punching Normal-types with Guac.

(That's what's left of a Buneary.)



Doesn't Carnivine look a little bit like Flying Spaghetti Monster?

He's also really creepy when he moves.



Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.



Ooh! I have just the thing for this.






















Whoever gets the joke gets to name any Pokemon I've caught.


---

Next time, I fight N! Maybe! Probably. There's literally nowhere else to go.

[JRPomazon]

Chapter 25 - Lostlorn Forest: The Hunt for a Legendary




Vullaby was one of the version-locked Pokemon. He's kind of the opposite of Braviary and Honchkrow. Unimpressive attack, stellar defenses.

I have always had some questions regarding pokemon with high def/spec. def status in lieu of stats that can kill enemies good and quick. How would one effectively run a pokemon like Vullaby in their team and make the most of it's abilities when it's strongest stats are in Defense? A defender without any trap-esque moves like Leech Seed, Spikes, etc.?

[deep]

Let's Play: Answer Jerp's Question

So I'm not Showsni, but if I did a Vullaby/Mandibuzz, here's how I'd run it.

First off, stats. For comparison, I'll put up Honchkrow's, who is also Flying/Dark

HP - 117 | 115
ATK - 80 | 155
DEF - 138 | 85
SPA - 95 | 135
SDF - 145 | 105
SPD - 108 | 90

110 (+7)
65 (+15)
105 (+33)
55 (+40)
95 (+50)
80 (+28)

A good deal of HP, great defenses, Nidoking's speed, and passable special attack. In this hack, it seems most stats under 100 are intended to be weaknesses.

Now his moveset:

Level 1 - Sky Attack
Level 6 - Fake Out
Level 9 - Fury Attack
Level 12 - Focus Energy
Level 15 - Air Cutter
Level 19 - Defog
Level 22 - Faint Attack
Level 25 - Nasty Plot
Level 29 - Pluck
Level 32 - Tailwind
Level 36 - Drill Peck
Level 40 - Featherdance
Level 44 - Dark Pulse
Level 47 - Roost
Level 51 - Sky Drop
Level 54 - Drill Run
Level 57 - Flatter
Level 60 - Heat Wave
Level 64 - Night Daze
Level 68 - Embargo
Level 71 - Hurricane
Level 75 - Foul Play

Pretty straight Dark/Flying learnset, with Heat Wave and Drill Run randomly in there for flavor.

Because I'm me, I'd probably stick with STAB damage bonuses and rock Nasty Plot to work with the 95 base special attack. Mandibuzz actually has enough defenses to make buffing first turn very viable, especially with a natural 2-stage buffer like Nasty Plot. Dark Pulse and Heat Wave are easy choices because they draw upon special.

Flatter is interesting because Mandibuzz can theoretically tank the extra special attack damage you give the flattered opponent, but I'd keep Nasty Plot over it any day.

As late game additions, Night Daze got beefed up in this game: 100 damage/ 100% accuracy. Some people dig Hurricane, but the accuracy makes me cringe. Finally, because every Pokemon got power upgrades, Foul Play might be a disturbingly effective physical attack because it draws upon the opponent's attack stat. If the opponent has more than Manibuzz's 80 base attack, that move hits for 120 damage and draws from the opponent's attack stat. This effectively allows Mandibuzz to hit like Honchkrow, but also take a couple hits himself.

Before considering TMs, using Mandibuzz's normal movepool, I'd roll with

Nasty Plot
Heat Wave
Foul Play
Air Cutter / Hurricane / a more apropos TM

[Veteran]

Hurricane is 100% accurate in the rain, if that changes things at all.

[deep]

Considering I've got a Pokemon with Drought on my team, it makes it slightly worse.


edit: Egh. Stonewalled by Cheren. His Escavalier has shown me that I have a pretty profound weakness to Rock on my team.

Edited by deep, 04 August 2012 - 02:05 PM.

[JRPomazon]

Considering I've got a Pokemon with Drought on my team, it makes it slightly worse.


edit: Egh. Stonewalled by Cheren. His Escavalier has shown me that I have a pretty profound weakness to Rock on my team.

How? Aren't you rockin' (no pun intended) a Sceptile and a Samurott?

[deep]

Samurott picked up Ice-typing in his last evolution, which is weak to Rock. Sceptile is weak to Bug. That Escavalier's got both.

[Veteran]

It's things like this we need to know about, Deep. Next you'll tell us Sceptile is Grass/Dragon.

Is it?

[deep]

I actually had no idea it happened until I got hit with a Rock Slide! But no, Sceptile's still plain grass.

[deep]

Chapter 26 - My Date with N

Lostlorn Forest also houses Kecleons and Rufflets. I could not find a Kecleon, but I did pick up a Rufflet.



I found a piece of shaky-grass too.



Meh.




I have Fly. Let's just ride my Pidgey.



Are... you trying to seduce me with your power?

Because it's working.



649

--or infinity, until the series stops printing money.

Then he totally fights me so his cronies can get away. Lame.


He ain't gettin any of this



tonight!



I hope you never find your eyes.



Turns out Eelektrik/Eelektross got nerfed.

They're now Electric/Water, and their ability is no longer Levitate, which adds a couple of key weaknesses.



Ground.

HOWEVER.

N has a few Pokemon that got significant and unlikely power boosts. They ruined me.





Fucking Solrock and Lunatone.



This needs to kill it outright.







Rock Slide.



DON'T TAUNT ME



Of course.

Luckily, I've got some Water attacks to throw at it.



aw that's not nearly enough



ffffffff



fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

Rock Slide!

Apparently Samurott is Water/Ice in this hack. Splendid.



Morning Sun restored all that health. AT NIGHT TIME



Leaf Blade hurts.



Spit Fire also hurts.

Luckily I outspeed this mofo.



asdlfkjopwiemclask;djf

N's got a Ninjask. They are fucking fast. Like 210 base speed fast.

BUT I AM FASTER



HA



oh that's unfortunate



Reeeeally need this to OHKO him.



Peking what do I pay you for!



It... uses Sandstorm.

Swords Dance into Sandstorm.

Well I'm not complaining.

Bring on Lunatone.



Power Gem. Peking is slow as balls to get outpaced by a rock with a face.



Splendid news.



NIGHT SLASH BITCH SUPER EFFECTIVE RIGHT BACK AT YOU



...

PEKING DUDE I MADE YOU FUCKING MEME WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME



Gojira cleans up. He's faster than Lunatone, luckily.



He also apparently really likes Sp. Attack.



I don't think it was the future.

I think you saw the alternate realities where you kicked my ass. There were a few.



This is Bulldoze. I can't screenshot Shaky-Cam^TM.

Shake your monitor.



Hell yeah I oh god dammit fucking seriously

Alt. update title: A Game of apodifjasdlfkjvpoidajhfl;ksadfj Inches.

No worries. I got more Bulldozes where that comes from.



YOU FORGOT MY NAME ALREADY

YOU ARE THE WORST DATE

AND I AM ON OKCUPID







oh god he's so hot

<sub><sup>no
no

you have self respect

he has a ponytail

he's wearing a turtleneck

don't you do this</sup></sub>



So that went well.



I am obviously adequately prepared for this gym.


---

Next time, I use two Pokemon and three attacks.

Edited by deep, 04 August 2012 - 07:02 PM.

[Sir Deimos]

I love how we had a talk about Fire Bug vs Arcanine. I was all "Arcanine rock weakness is x2 vs Fire Bug's x4."

"NAH BRAH IT'S OK ROCK ATTACKS SUXXORZ LOLOLOLOL."

[deep]

Every time you point out my hubris I will push Scyther deeper into my PC box.

[Sir Deimos]

That's only punishing yourself, really.

[deep]

He has a 4x weakness to Rock.

[Sir Deimos]

OH THE IRONY.

[Showsni]

Stick a Charti berry on your Volcarona to show Escavalier why it shouldn't play with fire. (Or get Emboar out of storage.)

Wow, Solrock is... surprisingly effective.

I have always had some questions regarding pokemon with high def/spec. def status in lieu of stats that can kill enemies good and quick. How would one effectively run a pokemon like Vullaby in their team and make the most of it's abilities when it's strongest stats are in Defense? A defender without any trap-esque moves like Leech Seed, Spikes, etc.?

Stall teams. You run bulky Pokémon that can take a lot of hits and often heal themselves, whilst wearing the enemy down. The classic combo is Skarmbliss - Skarmory plus Blissey. Skarmory has ridiculous Defence, Blissey has ridiculous Special Defence. Both can heal themselves (Roost and Softboiled). Your opponent uses a special attacker, you switch in Blissey, they're forced to change to a physical attacker, you bring in Skarmory - and all the while they're taking damage from Stealth Rocks and Spikes.

A defensive Madnibuzz can run useful moves like Roost, Taunt, Whirlwind, Knock Off and Toxic. (You probably want Brave Bird or something to stop yourself being total Taunt bait, though). With team mates to set up the Spikes and so on Whirlwind will keep wearing things down. Or you could surprise the opponent with a Nasty Plot set and go offensive - or even a Choice Band set! In the Battle Subway, the NPCs use a few Mandibuzz sets:

Mandibuzz | Calm | Wacan Berry | Taunt | Flatter | Roost | Toxic | Spd/SpD
Mandibuzz | Mild | Flying Gem | Dark Pulse | Air Slash | Shadow Ball | Nasty Plot | Spd/SpA
Mandibuzz | Modest | Sitrus Berry | Nasty Plot | Dark Pulse | Air Slash | Incinerate | HP/Def/SpD
Mandibuzz | Careful | Leftovers | Substitute | Swagger | Punishment | Roost | HP/Def/SpD

Some interesting ideas there. The fourth one that hides behind a Substitute, Swaggers the opponent to raise their attack, and then uses Punishment to punish their higher attack is pretty cool.

Edited by Showsni, 05 August 2012 - 01:40 PM.

[deep]

You now have three Rock weak Pokémon and only one resist...

Yeah, I hadn't really considered it (plus Samurott getting Ice snuck up on me). Rock isn't a very common type in vanilla, but I have to remember how this hacker's been evening things out in that respect.

Stick a Charti berry on your Volcarona to show Escavalier why it shouldn't play with fire. (Or get Emboar out of storage.)

I have never heard of that berry, and I definitely haven't picked one up yet.

Wow, Solrock is... surprisingly effective.

90 - 138 - 135 - 65 - 85 - 90 || Levitate/Flame Body

Lunatone is the same, but reverses physicals and specials.

[Showsni]

No, you'd probably need to be using the Dream World to get a Charti berry, though you can also find them held by wild Swellow. They reduce the effectiveness of Super Effective Rock type attacks.

[Veteran]

If Solrock has Flame Body, does Lunatone have Ice Body? I only ask because I <3 Ice types.

[deep]

Yes! My bad.

I didn't know Ice Body was a thing. Lunatone's got weaker physical defense than special, but if you do physically attack it, there's a chance you get frozed. Devious.

[Showsni]

Wait, Ice Body freezes in this hack??? That really is devious.