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[Average Gamer]

Various screenshots of Spirit Tracks have been leaked today. ZU and ZI are talking about these screenshots, and ZI has gathered all of them so far.

http://www.zeldainfo...information.php

Thoughts?

[Fin]

The Legend of Zelda: Slaughter Train

[Person]

Looks like Impa's back.
And is it me, or does it look like Zelda is possessing the Phantom? Maybe she's the "sidekick" in this game?
That tiny guy looks freaky. Maybe he's a new main villain.

[Gibdo Master]

http://www.gametrail...da-spirit/58652

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Wow. They really shouldn't put boss fights in these trailers. I don't mind plot spoilers, but things that tell you how to beat the bosses? That's just ridiculous.

[Raien]

Two things I noticed:

1) In the trailer, we see what is clearly a Force Gem being dropped by the boss. Note that the triangle is upside-down this time.

2) The Hylian Crest has been changed. What was once a Triforce with bird wings is now an upside-down triangle (in other words, a Force Gem) with bird wings.

My conclusion, Force Gems have entirely replaced the Triforce as the main source of magical power in this series.

Edited by Raien, 06 November 2009 - 10:57 AM.

[Masamune]

Look at that hair! Look familiar?



In any other series, we could conclude that Tetra was an old woman now. But not in the Zelda series, alas.

[Person]

Look at that hair! Look familiar?



In any other series, we could conclude that Tetra was an old woman now. But not in the Zelda series, alas.

I don't know. We already know this game's timeline placement. Maybe they're being less ambiguous about the post-TWW story arc.

I did notice the thing about the Hylian crest. Maybe it's changed because this is Link and Tetra's new kingdom, and so it has a different coat of arms?

Spirit Tracks storyline
Well, it's been confirmed that this is indeed New Hyrule, but it's a land that Tetra and Link discovered. Guess we can kiss the "un-flooding" theory goodbye. Looks like there's a new main villain, too.

Edited by Person, 06 November 2009 - 11:50 AM.

[Raien]

I did notice the thing about the Hylian crest. Maybe it's changed because this is Link and Tetra's new kingdom, and so it has a different coat of arms?

Spirit Tracks storyline
Well, it's been confirmed that this is indeed New Hyrule, but it's a land that Tetra and Link discovered. Guess we can kiss the "un-flooding" theory goodbye. Looks like there's a new main villain, too.

That's exactly right, and the "New Hyrule" confirmation pretty much validates it.

[FDL]

From the screenshots and plot summary, it seems as though the green tunic has become the standard uniform for the soldiers/guards. I guess the Hero of Winds really spread his home town's traditions around.

[MikePetersSucks]

Wait, where the fuck was it confirmed that this was New Hyrule?

[Masamune]

From IGN, it was linked from that Zelda Informer page that Person just posted.

[Erimgard]

Hmmm this game's backstory deals with a battle against a Demon King...and there's only been one person who has achieved that title in Zelda. They'll have some serious explaining to do if it is who I think it is...given that he's a tad wet right now

[ganonlord6000]

I did notice the thing about the Hylian crest. Maybe it's changed because this is Link and Tetra's new kingdom, and so it has a different coat of arms?

Spirit Tracks storyline
Well, it's been confirmed that this is indeed New Hyrule, but it's a land that Tetra and Link discovered. Guess we can kiss the "un-flooding" theory goodbye. Looks like there's a new main villain, too.

That's exactly right, and the "New Hyrule" confirmation pretty much validates it.

Any idea who this demon king is? The only person in the Zelda series ever called by that name is dead by ST and his body is at the bottem of the ocean. That is unless some idiot brought Ganon back (highly unlikly due to the fact that he probably doesn't want to come back to life).

[ganonlord6000]

Hmmm this game's backstory deals with a battle against a Demon King...and there's only been one person who has achieved that title in Zelda. They'll have some serious explaining to do if it is who I think it is...given that he's a tad wet right now

Uh, he's dead. And Ganon is the only demon king. That is unless this is the demon that created the trident we see in FSA (that would debunk your Oracles precede FSA because of the trident wouldn't it?). I think Impossible's "no new Hyrule after TWW" isn't valid anymore. Oh. I think we can call TWW's Link and Tetra idiots.

Edited by ganonlord6000, 06 November 2009 - 04:45 PM.

[Erimgard]

Oh and for the record, while I too contemplated the "Hylian Crest changes = no more Triforce games", I don't think it's completely valid. Consider the fact that according to aLttP the location of the Sacred Realm / Triforce were forgotten and weren't known by anyone shortly before Ganon entered the Sacred Realm and corrupted it into the Dark World.

So I think it's entirely possible that Hyrule leaves the Triforce far behind, relying on Force from here on out, and forgets the Triforce. Then, FSA/aLttP Ganondorf comes along and...

Not touting this as fact or anything, but just saying.

[Person]

The plot summary says the demon king was a force that they battled when they came to the new land, so it's probably not Ganon. And "Demon King" has only been Ganon's title in Japanese. This is in English, so there's probably going to be a distinction. If they had said "King of Darkness" or whatnot, then I would be raising eyebrows.

[Jarsh]

Oh. I think we can call TWW's Link and Tetra idiots.

Why?

[Average Gamer]

Oh and for the record, while I too contemplated the "Hylian Crest changes = no more Triforce games", I don't think it's completely valid. Consider the fact that according to aLttP the location of the Sacred Realm / Triforce were forgotten and weren't known by anyone shortly before Ganon entered the Sacred Realm and corrupted it into the Dark World.

The Triforce is not unknown to Hyrule in ALttP; if I'm not mistaken, it's still the symbol of the Royal Family, and people such as the Flute Kid and the gang of the "Ordinary Guy" have recently tried to find it. Also, ALttP and its manual both make it clear that people knew about the Triforce before Ganondorf obtained it.

Oh. I think we can call TWW's Link and Tetra idiots.

Why?

Ganonlord's suggesting that they blatantly defied Daphnes' warning and tried to recreate the past.

Edited by Average Gamer, 06 November 2009 - 05:22 PM.

[Erimgard]

Oh and for the record, while I too contemplated the "Hylian Crest changes = no more Triforce games", I don't think it's completely valid. Consider the fact that according to aLttP the location of the Sacred Realm / Triforce were forgotten and weren't known by anyone shortly before Ganon entered the Sacred Realm and corrupted it into the Dark World.

The Triforce is not unknown to Hyrule in ALttP; if I'm not mistaken, it's still the symbol of the Royal Family, and people such as the Flute Kid and the gang of the "Ordinary Guy" have recently tried to find it. Also, ALttP and its manual both make it clear that people knew about the Triforce before Ganondorf obtained it.

I'm talking about the Swamp Maidens quote.
The Triforce/Sacred Realm was known for a long time, but then the information was only known by "a certain family" (or something along those lines, according to the Japanese. Indication is the Royal Family) and passed down amongst them, but eventually even that process broke down.

Ganondorf is the one who rediscovered it.

Do I need to quote/link it?


EDIT:
@ Person
Maybe NoA stopped being bitches and let the word "demon" be put in the games?

Edited by Erimgard, 06 November 2009 - 05:11 PM.

[joeymartin64]

Wow. I'm actually interested in this game now. It looked like it was going to be a crappy, gimmicky one-shot, but if they're actually tying up the TWW arc's loose ends with it, I'm game. And did we actually see Zelda die there?

I'll be interested to see if the new land is called "Hyrule," some variant like "New Hyrule," or something completely new.

[Average Gamer]

I'm talking about the Swamp Maidens quote.
The Triforce/Sacred Realm was known for a long time, but then the information was only known by "a certain family" (or something along those lines, according to the Japanese. Indication is the Royal Family) and passed down amongst them, but eventually even that process broke down.

Ganondorf is the one who rediscovered it.

If I remember correctly, only the specific location of the Sacred Realm was known and forgotten.

[Erimgard]

That's true, but if even the Royal Family had lost the location of the Triforce, it stands to reason that eventually interest in the Triforce would dwindle, especially with the introduction of Force into Hyrule.

[Mad Scrub]

I can't wait to play this game now !

[Average Gamer]

That's true, but if even the Royal Family had lost the location of the Triforce, it stands to reason that eventually interest in the Triforce would dwindle, especially with the introduction of Force into Hyrule.

Potentially, but not necessarily. If people still insisted on going after the Triforce in ALttP, when the Sacred Realm is known to be sealed and when Ganon supposedly owns the Triforce, people were probably trying to find it even after the location of the Sacred Realm was forgotten. Heck, the SNES manual even states that people looked everywhere for a way into the Sacred Realm.

Edited by Average Gamer, 06 November 2009 - 05:58 PM.

[Raien]

Oh and for the record, while I too contemplated the "Hylian Crest changes = no more Triforce games", I don't think it's completely valid. Consider the fact that according to aLttP the location of the Sacred Realm / Triforce were forgotten and weren't known by anyone shortly before Ganon entered the Sacred Realm and corrupted it into the Dark World.

I don't understand the point of your argument. The changing of the royal crest is a very simple and clear statement that says "The Triforce is not the foundation of this land." What does ALttP have to do with that? Are you trying to suggest that the developers are holding themselves to random crap from 1991, even after all the times they've said they don't think about stuff like that?

And just like that, I remembered why I stopped theorising.

Edited by Raien, 06 November 2009 - 05:54 PM.

[Person]

I watched the trailer again and noticed that the "Impa"-esque character was winking. Okay, so she has the same hairstyle as Tetra, and the same facial tic as Tetra. I'm going out on a limb and saying this is Tetra as an old woman.

[Jarsh]

I watched the trailer again and noticed that the "Impa"-esque character was winking. Okay, so she has the same hairstyle as Tetra, and the same facial tic as Tetra. I'm going out on a limb and saying this is Tetra as an old woman.

Her name is Anjean.

[ganonlord6000]

Oh and for the record, while I too contemplated the "Hylian Crest changes = no more Triforce games", I don't think it's completely valid. Consider the fact that according to aLttP the location of the Sacred Realm / Triforce were forgotten and weren't known by anyone shortly before Ganon entered the Sacred Realm and corrupted it into the Dark World.

The Triforce is not unknown to Hyrule in ALttP; if I'm not mistaken, it's still the symbol of the Royal Family, and people such as the Flute Kid and the gang of the "Ordinary Guy" have recently tried to find it. Also, ALttP and its manual both make it clear that people knew about the Triforce before Ganondorf obtained it.

Oh. I think we can call TWW's Link and Tetra idiots.

Why?

Ganonlord's suggesting that they blatantly defied Daphnes' warning and tried to recreate the past.

Exactly. You beat me to that. This would give Ganon a reason to return if he does.

[JRPomazon]

I saw the rope snake in that trailer and I was immensely pleased.