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[Fyxe]

Although I am the one who brought up all the Majora's Mask similarities, I think it's slightly jumping to conclusions to think that 'interloper' meant anything other than someone interloping on the Sacred Realm, in much the same way that Ganondorf's band of thieves in the ALttP backstory are said to do.

Like I've said, I'd have to hear Lanayru's story again to be sure about details like that.

But here's a question. Why do the interlopers take on the guise of Dark/Shadow Link? Why is there more than one? Why does Link become one? Is this a direct connection to FSA - the Twilight Mirror creates shadows of people? Or is it just a symbolic thing? Is Dark Link related to the Twili, or to Termina/Majora, or something else entirely?

...You know, actually, while generally I think that scene overall was highly symbolic (obviously Link didn't kill Ilia), I find it remarkable that many people can't understand that Zant's infamous head snap was blatantly symbolic as well. Just a small point to add.

[FDL]

I know, but why not use the same attack on Link after Midna was dealt with? (Feel free to smugly reply "He was spent", I'll still not buy that as an explanation )

I'm glad you agree MikePetersSucks.

And FDL, interloper is pretty much the same thing as intruder.

He was sp....oh.

[Duke Serkol]

Although I am the one who brought up all the Majora's Mask similarities, I think it's slightly jumping to conclusions to think that 'interloper' meant anything other than someone interloping on the Sacred Realm, in much the same way that Ganondorf's band of thieves in the ALttP backstory are said to do.

Like I've said, I'd have to hear Lanayru's story again to be sure about details like that.

But here's a question. Why do the interlopers take on the guise of Dark/Shadow Link? Why is there more than one? Why does Link become one? Is this a direct connection to FSA - the Twilight Mirror creates shadows of people? Or is it just a symbolic thing? Is Dark Link related to the Twili, or to Termina/Majora, or something else entirely?

...You know, actually, while generally I think that scene overall was highly symbolic (obviously Link didn't kill Ilia)

Considering what I and Mike Peter Sucks mentioned in the last few posts (that supposedly the Triforce was to belong to anybody from Hyrule, even if evil) I think interpreting interlopers as interlopers from somewhere outside Hyrule is actually more founded than a (successive) connection to the ancient tribe from Termina.
Unless the Goddesses consider their use of magic cheating, but it's not like Ganondorf didn't use dark magic himself. Or I guess back then there could be no Master Sword and so the goddesses had to step in lest Hyrule become a permanent living nightmare.

There's also the fact that both this vision and the creation myth in OoT -heavily- imply that the Sacred Realm was once a land within Hyrule (and not a separate dimension) so they'd have to be interlopers for both... but even if that wasn't the case, if the Sacred Realm was already its own dimension, then wouldn't that qualify anybody as interlopers (and thus cause the ire of the goddesses)?

Anyway, yeah, as you can guess, I take it as entirely symbolic. Both because of the Ilia stabbing and her clones descending over Link. I think those pretty much drive the point home
But I do wonder why the killing Dark Link gains color... is it just Link's point of view shifting (that's what I think), or were these magic users stealing souls or something?

[Fyxe]

The main reason he doesn't use whatever he did to deal with Midna again is because it'd be somewhat of an anticlimax if Ganon just blew Link up.

If you want a serious plot-based answer, it's probably because it was a very risky move, really, either that or it relied on the overpowering strength of the Fused Shadows and somehow turned it against itself. Besides, it wasn't enough to kill Midna for good *anyway*, so it was probably more flashy than anything. It just dealt with the Fused Shadows.

Oh, and as for the middle Dark Link getting Link's tunic and stuff... That represents Link *becoming* Dark Link. He wasn't destroyed by them, he became one of them. I think it was saying that even Link isn't strong enough to resist the lure of power.

Edited by Fyxe, 23 January 2007 - 10:19 PM.

[Reflectionist]

What's the exact definition of "interloper" again?

http://en.wiktionary...wiki/Interloper

[spunky-monkey]

Although I am the one who brought up all the Majora's Mask similarities, I think it's slightly jumping to conclusions to think that 'interloper' meant anything other than someone interloping on the Sacred Realm, in much the same way that Ganondorf's band of thieves in the ALttP backstory are said to do.

Like I've said, I'd have to hear Lanayru's story again to be sure about details like that.

But here's a question. Why do the interlopers take on the guise of Dark/Shadow Link? Why is there more than one? Why does Link become one? Is this a direct connection to FSA - the Twilight Mirror creates shadows of people? Or is it just a symbolic thing? Is Dark Link related to the Twili, or to Termina/Majora, or something else entirely?

I think they called them interlopers because 'infidels' wouldn't have gone down so well.

There isn't much to say about that cutscene except that it is symbolic. Dark Link doesn't just serve as a representation of the Twili's ancestors, he's an obvious warning to Link who continually seeks power, becoming a Dark Link only emphasizes this process even more - the Light Spirits aren't going to allow the corruption of the chosen hero.

Edited by Ricky, 24 January 2007 - 04:30 AM.

[Duke Serkol]

it was probably more flashy than anything. It just dealt with the Fused Shadows.

Oh, and as for the middle Dark Link getting Link's tunic and stuff... That represents Link *becoming* Dark Link. He wasn't destroyed by them, he became one of them. I think it was saying that even Link isn't strong enough to resist the lure of power.

Well, I still think going "OMG, he killed Hyrule Castle!!" was silly

That could be right about the lure of power (but wasn't he "evil" enough when he got blank eyes upon turning on Ilia?)... putting that into historical perspective though, I don't think the interloping tribe got others (Hylians or any Hyrule inhabitants) to join them.. do you?

[SOAP]

Although I am the one who brought up all the Majora's Mask similarities, I think it's slightly jumping to conclusions to think that 'interloper' meant anything other than someone interloping on the Sacred Realm, in much the same way that Ganondorf's band of thieves in the ALttP backstory are said to do.

Like I've said, I'd have to hear Lanayru's story again to be sure about details like that.

But here's a question. Why do the interlopers take on the guise of Dark/Shadow Link? Why is there more than one? Why does Link become one? Is this a direct connection to FSA - the Twilight Mirror creates shadows of people? Or is it just a symbolic thing? Is Dark Link related to the Twili, or to Termina/Majora, or something else entirely?

...You know, actually, while generally I think that scene overall was highly symbolic (obviously Link didn't kill Ilia), I find it remarkable that many people can't understand that Zant's infamous head snap was blatantly symbolic as well. Just a small point to add.

I think it's all symbolic, that Lanayru was just taking images Link would recognize and using them to tell the story of the Twili's banaishment. It's definate connection with FSA, if not an allusion to the Dark Mirror. Perhaps the Twili were able to take forms of other people? I dunno. Someone should really desconstruct that vision. What I found really interesting though is that Ilia is someone undoubtedly close to Link's heart. When they happen upon the Triforce in the vision, they look at each other and smile but in a split second Ilia's eyes go blank and she pulls out a knife only for Link to slit her throat first and run for the Triforce. Claerly the desire for the Triforce is so great it will turn close, childhood friends into mortal enemies. That's why Lanayru used Link and Ilia in the vision.

[Fyxe]

Well, I still think going "OMG, he killed Hyrule Castle!!" was silly

Za-wha? Nobody said that. o.o

Quite frankly, I think it was merely because it provided a dramatic background for Ganondorf to appear on his horse. And also because we couldn't see Ganon physically killing Midna, because she doesn't really die. We're just meant to think she's dead.

A lot of cutscenes in OoT are symbolic. It's not like everything has to have a perfectly logical purpose other than 'dramatic effect'.

The destruction of the castle also signifies the end of an era. It's implied that Zelda's governing of Hyrule wasn't overly perfect, and she has been regretting some of her choices. A rebuild is exactly what was needed.

Oh, and also, it's a homage to the destruction of Ganon's Tower in OoT, and the unseen destruction of Hyrule Castle.

Edited by Fyxe, 24 January 2007 - 10:23 AM.

[Hero of Legend]

To be quite frank, now that you're talking about 'child ending' means you have one of these wacky split timeline concepts, meaning I have no sodding idea how you place TP into the overall timeline.

'After OoT' sounds about right. See, I don't care much about how it connects to other games (because it doesn't), and by the looks of it, neither do the creators. Still, the matter of fact is that TP is incompatible with both the adult ending of OoT AND TWW, which coupled with the fact that Aonuma himself said there were two endings to OoT should give us a hint as to where this OoT sequel is supposed to go. That’s what I think, at least.

That could be right about the lure of power (but wasn't he "evil" enough when he got blank eyes upon turning on Ilia?)... putting that into historical perspective though, I don't think the interloping tribe got others (Hylians or any Hyrule inhabitants) to join them.. do you?

I think that was supposed to show that the dark tribe killed everyone who didn't surrender to them...

Anyway, my interpretation of Lanayru's story/vision is as such:

After the creation of the world, the people of Hyrule lived peacefully in the light of the gods. However, like in ALttP, they found out about the Triforce and its omnipotent powers, and they fought each other for it. It was during this 'war' that the dark tribe appeared and, using their shadow magic, defeated all that opposed them. However, like Ganondorf, they were evil, and so to protect the world from destruction, the goddesses sent the light spirits to defeat the evil ones who sought their power.

All this while still showing Link the dangers of giving in to the temptation of power (hence the Dark Links and whatnot).

As for the dark tribe, we know they were robbed of their magic, and confined within the great prison that what would latter become known as the Gerudo Fortress (And yes Duke, I know its not a "fact", but its obvious, man) until they were to be banished to the Twilight Realm.

Meanwhile, the Triforce remained in the Sacred Realm. But to prevent the unworthy from gaining access to it, the entrance was now sealed by the sages through the construction of the Temple of Time.

This makes sense doesn’t it? Did I miss anything?

Edited by Hero of Legend, 24 January 2007 - 10:29 AM.

[Fyxe]

It was during this 'war' that the dark tribe appeared and, using their shadow magic, defeated all that opposed them. However, like Ganondorf, they were evil, and so to protect the world from destruction, the goddesses sent the light spirits to defeat the evil ones who sought their power.

All this while still showing Link the dangers of giving in to the temptation of power (hence the Dark Links and whatnot).

I'm not sure if the ancestors to what we know was the Twili were any more evil than anyone else who sought the Triforce. However, they were immensely powerful, too powerful.

As for the dark tribe, we know they were robbed of their magic, and confined within the great prison that what would latter become known as the Gerudo Fortress (And yes Duke, I know its not a "fact", but its obvious, man) until they were to be banished to the Twilight Realm.

On this subject... What the fuck. No. What ARE you on about? The Gerudos have little to nothing to do with the Twili. They weren't confined anywhere, they were sent straight to the Twilight Realm, and that's it. The Gerudos in TP have either died out or, more likely, moved away from Hyrule.

[Hero of Legend]

I'm not sure if the ancestors to what we know was the Twili were any more evil than anyone else who sought the Triforce. However, they were immensely powerful, too powerful.

Everyone, even Minda, says they were malicious. Still, you are right. The average guy was spared because he wasn't a threat. I never said otherwise.

On this subject... What the fuck. No. What ARE you on about? The Gerudos have little to nothing to do with the Twili. They weren't confined anywhere, they were sent straight to the Twilight Realm, and that's it. The Gerudos in TP have either died out or, more likely, moved away from Hyrule.

The Gerudo? I never said they had any connection to the Twili. They simply made the prison their fortress after the Hylains abadoned it.

And as for the Twili's confinement...

The Gerudo Desert once held a prison built to hold the worst criminals this land has ever known...

The criminals who were sentenced to death were sent directly to the underworld by a cursed mirror that was kept in the prison...

Can you tell me that he is definitely not talking about the Twili? Do you have any evidence the Mirror of Twilight was ever moved?

[Fyxe]

The Gerudo? I never said they had any connection to the Twili. They simply made the prison their fortress after the Hylains abadoned it.

The Arbiter's Grounds? It looks and feels nothing like the Gerudo Fortress, if anything it's closer to the Spirit Temple than anything, in scale and structure. I think it's related to the Spirit Temple, but it's not the same building. The Gerudo's Fortress is unrelated, I'd say, other than being in the same desert location.

Can you tell me that he is definitely not talking about the Twili? Do you have any evidence the Mirror of Twilight was ever moved?

Well, I'm not entirely sure Auru's comments were hugely accurate, but I agree, he was *probably* talking about the ancestors of the Twili. I forgot about that comment. Okay, so they were possibly confined in the Arbiter's Grounds, *then* sent to the 'underworld'. It doesn't make a huge difference. But his use of the word 'underworld' means his information is likely not entirely accurate. I'd say that he's mixing the stories of Ganondorf with the stories of the Twili. Ganondorf was confined and sentenced to death but got sent to the Twilight Realm, however, the Twili were sent there well before Ganondorf, and were presumably all sent as a group by the Light Spirits. There may have been other people, like Ganondorf, who were confined there and sentenced to death (going to the 'underworld' by a more standard route), but Ganondorf was the only one they were forced to send to the Twilight Realm.

Auru's knowledge is based on rumour about historical events that were likely undocumented, so it'd be no surprise if he's mixing multiple events together and thought that more than one person, other than Ganondorf, was sent to the 'underworld'. I mean, he thinks it's cursed, evil, and sends them directly to the underworld, when in fact it's not really cursed as such, and it connects to an alternate world that is not related to death.

Back to the earlier topic, I think the reason we see Dark Link is because originally, the Twili were shadow versions of Hyruleans. Obviously, by the time of TP, they seem to have 'evolved' somewhat, but they are still mostly human, especially in the case of Midna, who's zeh hawt.

Edited by Fyxe, 24 January 2007 - 11:18 AM.

[Duke Serkol]

Za-wha? Nobody said that. o.o

A lot of cutscenes in OoT are symbolic. It's not like everything has to have a perfectly logical purpose other than 'dramatic effect'.

I did, as I'm sure many other players

I'm okay with dramatic effect... not over-dramatic though

As for the dark tribe, we know they were robbed of their magic, and confined within the great prison that what would latter become known as the Gerudo Fortress (And yes Duke, I know its not a "fact", but its obvious, man) until they were to be banished to the Twilight Realm.

The Arbiter's Grounds? It looks and feels nothing like the Gerudo Fortress, if anything it's closer to the Spirit Temple than anything, in scale and structure. I think it's related to the Spirit Temple, but it's not the same building. The Gerudo's Fortress is unrelated, I'd say, other than being in the same desert location.
Well, I'm not entirely sure Auru's comments were hugely accurate, but I agree, he was *probably* talking about the ancestors of the Twili.

Can't say I agree. I don't really read Auru's story as being about the Twilis' banishment. It seems to me that the Twili were banished by the Light Spirits and that later on, the Sages used the mirror they were entrusted with to banish criminals of all sorts (held in the prison complex beforehand) in the Twilight Realm, as they eventually did with Ganondorf.
In fact, I'd more easily see a link with the followers of Ganondorf that were defeated once he lost the war he waged on Hyrule (I'd just say the Gerudo, but we know Ganondorf also employed many monsters in OoT, so I'd assume that was the case in this occasion too). Those events are not so remote as the Twili banishment, and it would make more sense, I think, if Auru (who's not quite as old as Lanayru) had been talking about them.

The complex itself is quite an enigma... it seems to me a mix of Gerudo and Hylian architecture. Do notice that the writing in it looks for the most part more like Egyptian Hyeroglyphs than Hylian. That and like the Desert Colossus (which I'm inclined to believe was likely built by Gerudo long before OoT) it features many statues of a woman with a snake (the infamous Evil Goddess).
My take on it would be that the Hylians took over a Gerudo structure and converted it to prison complex for their needs, adding a Colosseum like arena on top (and maybe the now Bullblins-infested group of cells in the front... we see no Hyeroglyphs in it)

Back to the earlier topic, I think the reason we see Dark Link is because originally, the Twili were shadow versions of Hyruleans.

Uhm, possible but I'm really more inclined toward the "Lanayru using Link and Ilia as actors" theory (with Dark Link being used for teh 3vil interlopers)

Edited by Duke Serkol, 24 January 2007 - 12:11 PM.

[D~N]

I like to think that it's a mix of both. What I mean is that yes, Lanayru uses them as actors, but the shadow links being a shadow version of hyruleans theory isn't too far off. A shadow version of something doesn't have to mean shaow, it could mean "opposite." Like, how Termina had opposites of people. I don't want to make the full jump just yet, but I like the Majora theory and this one. Combining them in some way shape or form would be what I like best. But I'm working on that part. BUt I don't mean that the Tribe is literally evil versions of Hyruleans either; that'd be too fanficcy, even for me. What I mean is that they are symbolic for, or symbloized as, an opposite version of Hyruleans. Maybe...

[Hero of Legend]

The Arbiter's Grounds? It looks and feels nothing like the Gerudo Fortress, if anything it's closer to the Spirit Temple than anything, in scale and structure. I think it's related to the Spirit Temple, but it's not the same building. The Gerudo's Fortress is unrelated, I'd say, other than being in the same desert location.

The Gerudo Fortress would be the complex outside the Arbiter's Grounds. And while it is true it doesn't look a lot like the fortress of OoT, Kakriko wasn't exactly unaltered either.

It doesn't make a huge difference.

No, it doesn't. But I was supposed to give my interpretation of what happened, remember? It's not like I'm saying any of this because it is important to some theory I have or something like that,

Auru's knowledge is based on rumour about historical events that were likely undocumented, so it'd be no surprise if he's mixing multiple events together and thought that more than one person, other than Ganondorf, was sent to the 'underworld'.

Well, Auro had spoken with the sages, so he wasn't without his sources. And I assume the “underworld” is the good ol' 'makai' which, as we all know, could mean any number of things (though he does speak of people who were to be executed, so I assume it really is hell).

In fact, I'd more easily see a link with the followers of Ganondorf that were defeated once he lost the war he waged on Hyrule (I'd just say the Gerudo, but we know Ganondorf also employed many monsters in OoT, so I'd assume that was the case in this occasion too). Those events are not so remote as the Twili banishment, and it would make more sense, I think, if Auru (who's not quite as old as Lanayru) had been talking about them.

But if that was true, wouldn't we have heard about it from Midna or something? I don't think the Twili would just ignore a bunch of humans appearing from that portal. No, it seems apparent Ganondorf was the only one who was banished, probably because of the nature of his crimes (and because there wasn't much else they could do once he broke free).

My take on it would be that the Hylians took over a Gerudo structure and converted it to prison complex for their needs, adding a Colosseum like arena on top (and maybe the now Bullblins-infested group of cells in the front... we see no Hyeroglyphs in it)

Or it could be the other way around.

Edited by Hero of Legend, 24 January 2007 - 02:03 PM.

[Duke Serkol]

But if that was true, wouldn't we have heard about it from Midna or something? I don't think the Twili would just ignore a bunch of humans appearing from that portal. No, it seems apparent Ganondorf was the only one who was banished

Again, I disagree. The two "tales of banishment" (the Twilis' and the prisoners') just don't seem linked to me, for the reasons already stated and the fact that the Light Spirits don't seem to be involved at all in the second one (only the Sages, who on another hand did not seem to be involved in the first).
As for humans appearing in the Twilight Realm, you say Midna would have mentioned it... but then why does Midna (upon entering the desert) refer to Lanayru's account and not Auru's which you heard minutes ago? Not only that, she says they were chased by the Gods and banished, she never says they were imprisoned by the Hylians. She doesn't even remark about the Arbiter's Ground as the place where her people was judged (and that is certainly something I think she would mention) and there's also the very nature of the structure: arbiter's ground. The arbiter of the Twili were the gods, and they wouldn't need a court nor a prison (at least, I think they'd just toss the whole of them into Twilight pretty quickly). I'm more inclined to think the arbiters to be the Sages.
But this actually raises another question: what is it exactly that happened to Ganondorf once he got banished? Apparently he didn't just show up in the Palace of Twilight. He tells us that the resentment of the Twili awakened him (not a direct quote). Now Ganny is one of those chosen by the Gods, so he turned in a flaming head of power (can't really describe that any better) but even in the case of those who are not, I think they would behave like the people of Hyrule when into Twilight, that is turn into spirits.
Now I realize that Twili can interact with these spirits (see Renado's account of the events in Kakariko), so that alone wouldn't explain why Midna didn't mention them, but I suppose the pityful wretches were just shunned out of their territory (fanficcy, I know, but something has to have become of them).

[Fyxe]

I think it's fairly clear that they didn't *want* to send Ganondorf to the Twilight Realm, it was a last resort. It doesn't make any sense that they would use the mirror as a magical trashcan, essentially. The Sages were there to watch over and protect the mirror, not abuse it and send criminals to the Twilight Realm for no reason.

If they were doing that, then surely they wouldn't have bothered with the sword in the first place, and they would have activated the mirror well before he broke his chains.

Auru could have simply got his facts wrong. He thought they sent all to-be-exucuted criminals to the Twilight Realm (which is a perfectly understable mistake for him to make, we know that the Telma Bar heroes are acting on rumour and snippets of information, not solid facts), but in fact they only ever sent one.

Edited by Fyxe, 24 January 2007 - 06:38 PM.

[FDL]

I'm actually inclined to think that the Arbiter's Grounds was a prison for more than just Ganondorf's followers. It's the Shadow Temple of TP, all those ghosts and zombies are probably the criminals executed under normal circumstances. I mean, Ganondorf's men(and women, heh) can't be the only criminals in Hyrule.

[Fyxe]

'Arbiter' means judge. It's the judgement grounds, essentially. So yes, it would make sense if the whole place was an execution ground and a prison and has been for a long time. However, I find it hard to believe that the mirror was used for anything other than the Twili. The Twili's ancestors were judged by the Light Spirits and sealed in shadow. Since then, the grounds have been used as a prison and execution grounds, but the mirror was only used again to seal Ganondorf, as a last resort due to him wielding the Triforce of Power.

I wonder who this original 'Arbiter' was, however?

[Duke Serkol]

Normally I really like your way of reasoning Fyxe, but this time it seems to me you just want to ignore what Auru says.
He most definitely does have his facts straight since he heard them directly from the Sages. But even if he had heard it all from legend, being this a videogame (and thus being all dialogues primarily meant to convey the story to the player), I think unless we have some good reason to suspect any characters may be wrong in their statements, we should assume they are right.

But the fact is, Auru was told by the Sages that criminals who were sentenced to death would often have their sentence commuted to exile through the mirror (obviously not Ganondorf's case... not intentionally, at least), and I don't really see any reason we should not believe it.

[Fyxe]

I think unless we have some good reason to suspect any characters may be wrong in their statements, we should assume they are right.

It's clearly said and suggested repeatedly that the Telma bar heroes are working on speculation and legend. Take the girl, who's name escapes me for the moment, who believes that there is really a monster at Snowpeak, when later we find out it's not a monster at all, but an entirely harmless beast man. And the theory that the Oocca created the Hylians is clearly stated to be a legend, a rumour, and it's never stated if it's true or not.

But the fact is, Auru was told by the Sages that criminals who were sentenced to death would often have their sentence commuted to exile through the mirror (obviously not Ganondorf's case... not intentionally, at least), and I don't really see any reason we should not believe it.

I don't remember Auru ever saying that he was told anything like that directly by the Sages, but if you can provide me with quotes, that would be helpful.

[Duke Serkol]

Sure, here you go.

AURU
Say... Link! You're alive and well!
Tell me, did you find anything of interest at the Arbiter's Grounds in the
desert?
The sages... Those sages once served the royal family, actually. They were
appointed as tutors to the young Princess Zelda.
It was from them that I first heard tales of the accursed mirror in the
Arbiter's Grounds.

It's easy to miss this line. Auru only says it once, and only after you return from the Arbiter's Ground.

[Raien]

Take the girl, who's name escapes me for the moment, who believes that there is really a monster at Snowpeak, when later we find out it's not a monster at all, but an entirely harmless beast man.

Her name was Ashei. And to be fair, no one knew about Yeto because of his faraway home beyond the mists of Snowpeak.

Edited by jhurvid, 25 January 2007 - 11:10 AM.

[Duke Serkol]

To go against my own argument and show that I'm open minded, here's something that has been spotted in the Arbiter's Ground:



That on the right looks like a Shadow Assassin to me.
...of course Shadow Assassins shouldn't hav ver existed before Zant came along... but maybe Zant didn't quite invent them?


...and I think TRI-Enforcer will have a field day with the Kokiri Shield bearing warrior next to it.

Edited by Duke Serkol, 25 January 2007 - 06:56 PM.

[FDL]

Sorry, but doesn't that look like Link and Ganon?

[D~N]

^ If so... Easter Egg?

[Duke Serkol]

Some people think it looks like Ganon, Jumbie and I are more inclined to seeing it as a Shadow Assassin (the mask is there, the "tentacle hair" too, the disproportioned hands and feet, marks on the body...)
Jumbie also notes that the shield could bear a very deformed Hylian Eagle.

[FDL]

Or it's the image of the HoT, garbled through time and the fact that the people only quasi-know the events of the Adult portion(IMO).

[Arturo]

I think it is a homage to the original Zelda. Note how the hero has a crosson his shield and how that creature has similar proportions to LoZ Ganon. I see the resemblance to Twili, but I am sure it is a homage to LoZ.