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#121 FDL

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 06:36 PM

Come again? If I understand you correctly, you are saying there are things that would somehow contradict what we learn in MM's intro? Like what? Not OoT itself, as both the adult and child ending has people that are aware of Link deeds and are sure to spread that knowledge (Zelda in particular). Not MM, which tells us that Link was remembered as a legend. Certinaly not TWW, where some people still think he will return and save the world from evil. And not TP, where he is remembered as the legendary hero. So, again, I kinda fail to see the problem.


No, you don't undderstand me correctly, actually. I'm saying exactly what your saying, almost verbatim. OTHER PEOPLE disagree, and say MM's opening is just meant for the player, and has no bearing on canon, something I disagree with. I think MM makes it quite clear that his deeds in OoT were known, and TP seems to make it likely that he also kept all of his adult time items. Other people are who I'm talking about, my beliefs are similar to your own.


Well, actually not the King, since he'd be dead by that time (I assume Ganondorf killed him in his first 'attack' on Hyrule Castle). And what Link warned the Hylians about would be nothing other than Ganondorf’s impeding conquest of Hyrule, which would start as soon as he returned from the Sacred Realm. Once Ganondorf returns, events play out as said in TP, with him rallying the Gerudo in a war against the Hylians, ending with his eventual defeat and banishment.


See, I agree there as well. Maybe not exactly like this, but mainly so. I think many of the events of the adult time may have happened in the CT, aside from Ganondorf being King of Hyrule. But I still think Bongo Bongo being released and other events possibly happened, as it seemed like nothing could prevent the events.

#122 Crazy Penguin

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 06:41 PM

http://web.archive.o...nual_story.html

However, it could not be assumed that only a good person would get their hands on the Triforce.

For that reason, the people of Hyrule were told by the gods to make something that would repulse any evil that may kidnap the Triforce: the blade of evil's bane.

Alternately:

However, users of the Triforce are not limited to only good persons.

Accordingly, to repel an evil "kidnapping" of the Triforce, Hyrule's people were informed by a divine oracle to make an "expel-evil" sword.


It's evil magic that the Master Sword repels, not the power of the Triforce.



And another question for Japanese readers - there's an obvious similarity between what the spirit of the Triforce tells Ganondorf in ALttP's manual and what Ganondorf tells Zant in the Twilight Realm, but do the phrases match up to each other in Japanese? If they are an exact match then that's pretty damn cool.

#123 Hero of Legend

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 04:19 AM

No, you don't undderstand me correctly, actually. I'm saying exactly what your saying, almost verbatim.

...So "it has to do with the fact that he is said to have been made a legend, and the fact that nothing says he was forgotten, while there are things appear to disagree with the idea of his not being known as a hero", which is a redundant statement (essentially the equivalent of: ‘that is a ball, but it is not not a ball’), is verbatim of what I said?

OTHER PEOPLE disagree, and say MM's opening is just meant for the player, and has no bearing on canon, something I disagree with. I think MM makes it quite clear that his deeds in OoT were known, and TP seems to make it likely that he also kept all of his adult time items. Other people are who I'm talking about, my beliefs are similar to your own.

Then stop making a fuss about it. Those morons who ignore these canon facts are WRONG. It's just that damn simple.

See, I agree there as well. Maybe not exactly like this, but mainly so. I think many of the events of the adult time may have happened in the CT, aside from Ganondorf being King of Hyrule. But I still think Bongo Bongo being released and other events possibly happened, as it seemed like nothing could prevent the events.

Okay.

Edited by Hero of Legend, 23 February 2007 - 08:57 AM.


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Posted 23 February 2007 - 10:13 AM

...So "it has to do with the fact that he is said to have been made a legend, and the fact that nothing says he was forgotten, while there are things appear to disagree with the idea of his not being known as a hero", which is a redundant statement (essentially the equivalent of: ‘that is a ball, but it is not not a ball’), is verbatim of what I said?


Hey, look at that quote and tell me I made sense. It's obvious I was insanely tired when I typed that. Anyway, what I meant to say is that nothing appears to support the idea that he was forgotten as the hero. Many things go against it. And yet, there are many people who say otherwise. If you look at what I said, it makes sense if you translated it through babelfish.

Then stop making a fuss about it. Those morons who ignore these canon facts are WRONG. It's just that damn simple.


Okay, sorry I don't write everyone off as a moron. I'm not making a big deal of it, you are the one perpetuating this nonsense.

Okay.


Are you like this whenever anyone mentions there theories to you? Am I not being disagreeable enough?

#125 Hero of Legend

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 04:27 PM

Hey, look at that quote and tell me I made sense. It's obvious I was insanely tired when I typed that.

Obviously, then, my confusion was justified.

Anyway, what I meant to say is that nothing appears to support the idea that he was forgotten as the hero. Many things go against it. And yet, there are many people who say otherwise.

Which does not matter because those people lack any sort of justification for not adhering to canon, and therefore they are wrong.

Okay, sorry I don't write everyone off as a moron. I'm not making a big deal of it, you are the one perpetuating this nonsense.

No, quite the opposite, actually. See, this argument has been over for quite some time. You have prolonged it by, for some reason, brining up what other people think, when that simply has no place in a debate about facts. Again, it is rather pointless if some random loser thinks differently from me. I don’t care*, he’s wrong anyway, so why pester me about it?

* This would naturally be different if this was an important discussion about a subjective matter, but it isn’t.

Are you like this whenever anyone mentions there theories to you? Am I not being disagreeable enough?

What do you expect? I could go either way with your theory, but since it is never mentioned in any game, I don't really care about what happens to Bongo-Bongo. Like most debaters, I ignore things that are of no consequence.

My advice: Make a topic about it if you want to discuss it.

Edited by Hero of Legend, 23 February 2007 - 04:39 PM.


#126 Mad Scrub

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 05:16 PM

Oh get a room you two :P.

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 06:13 PM

Oh get a room you two :P.


That shut me up :P. No, in all seriousness, such a comment was inevitable. Being one who argues quite a bit(I'm guessing HoL is also, considering we are arguing despite the fact that we essentialy agree), I'm used to similar comments.

Edited by Fierce Deity Link, 23 February 2007 - 06:16 PM.





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