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#241 Doopliss

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Posted 30 June 2005 - 02:33 PM

Oh, I just found a fact that you can find interesting, you see, I plan to play all the Zelda games finally.

In the libreary of Koholit Island, south of Mabe village a book reads this way:

'The Whirling Blade techique has been haded down from generation to generation by the family of the hero...'

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Posted 30 June 2005 - 02:46 PM

How do you know that he doesn't have the Triforce of Power? Why would the Dark World exist then?

Because he admits that his power is coming from the Trident >_> and there's like, no evidence of the Triforce being involved whatsoever.

'The Whirling Blade techique has been haded down from generation to generation by the family of the hero...'


Yea. So? What's your point? This specific Link comes from the bloodline of one of the Knights. Doesn't mean they all do, or that all the Knights are related. I think that the Knights of Hyrule in FSA are just a special group of Knights, maybe with special spiritual powers to protect the Jewels, like Sages or something. I think that, just maybe, The Knights, by giving the jewels to the four Links in FSA, also gave them their titles as Knights, since now THEY are the protectors of the Jewels. Thusly, the Knights fighting in the Imprisoning War is...LINK! *he might be using the Four Sword, I dunno. Or maybe he gathered an army that became famous over their victory* And LTTP Link is the descendant of FSA Link. Eh? Eh?

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Posted 30 June 2005 - 02:51 PM

I wouldn't trust what a book on an imaginary island says. Sure, ALttP Link learns it from his uncle who in turn probably learned it from someone else in their family. But OoT Link learns it from the Great Fairy andd TWW Link learns it from Orca.

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Posted 30 June 2005 - 03:43 PM

Only a person of the Knights Of Hyrule, who protected the royalty of Hylia, can become the Hero... You are of their blood-line, aren't you? Then you must rescue Zelda without fail.


It is a quote from ALttP, but the way I read it was that "The Hero," who is so often referred to in ALttP, is Link in any of his incarnations - ie. they're different Links but they are always The Hero.

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Posted 30 June 2005 - 04:35 PM

I wouldn't trust what a book on an imaginary island says. Sure, ALttP Link learns it from his uncle who in turn probably learned it from someone else in their family. But OoT Link learns it from the Great Fairy andd TWW Link learns it from Orca.

Ditto, the Island is shaped largely by Link's experiences, so naturally a move that has been passed down through generations of his family will be referred to as having been passed down through generations of the hero's family.

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Posted 30 June 2005 - 08:05 PM

Another piece of evidence (if there wasn't enough already) showing that LA is a sequel to ALttP.

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Posted 30 June 2005 - 10:32 PM

Because he admits that his power is coming from the Trident >_> and there's like, no evidence of the Triforce being involved whatsoever.

Yea. So? What's your point? This specific Link comes from the bloodline of one of the Knights. Doesn't mean they all do, or that all the Knights are related. I think that the Knights of Hyrule in FSA are just a special group of Knights, maybe with special spiritual powers to protect the Jewels, like Sages or something. I think that, just maybe, The Knights, by giving the jewels to the four Links in FSA, also gave them their titles as Knights, since now THEY are the protectors of the Jewels. Thusly, the Knights fighting in the Imprisoning War is...LINK! *he might be using the Four Sword, I dunno. Or maybe he gathered an army that became famous over their victory* And LTTP Link is the descendant of FSA Link. Eh? Eh?

Oh, well then, it was just a fun fact.

About Ganon, he had to use the Triforce of Power to survive after OoT, maybe he couldn't use the Triforce of Power. Apart, his power could come from the Trident and the Triforce at the same time.

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Posted 30 June 2005 - 11:25 PM

I don't tnink Ganon had the Triforce of Power or any part of the Triforce during FSA. The Triforce is an important item so if Ganon did have the Triforce of Power it would have been metioned somewhere in the game.

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 12:47 AM

Unless the game was being intetionally ambiguous... cuz the creators hadn't really decided how to deal with the Triforce yet.

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 02:13 AM

The game crators probably wanted to keep the Four Swords games separated from the other games in the series so they had the Four Sword games not mention the Triforce.

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 02:14 AM

Or they just thought that with a trident and a Four Sword, three different villians, two worlds and four heros, the plot was full of stuff as it is without needing the Triforce.

But there does seem to be somewhat of a seperation of the Four Sword series from the rest of the games.

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 02:27 AM

The game crators probably wanted to keep the Four Swords games separated from the other games in the series so they had the Four Sword games not mention the Triforce.


But you still see it's symbol pratically everywhere. And the very end of FSA seems to focus on the Triforce eblem in the castle, darkening everything in the room except for the symbol. The Triforce is still part of the FS universe. It may not be the primary focus of attention but it's still there lingering in the background until the creators can decide how to approach it.

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 12:20 PM

About Ganon, he had to use the Triforce of Power to survive after OoT, maybe he couldn't use the Triforce of Power. Apart, his power could come from the Trident and the Triforce at the same time.

Or, he could've been born in FSA like it says and explains, he steals the Trident, and OMG POWER!!!

But you still see it's symbol pratically everywhere. And the very end of FSA seems to focus on the Triforce eblem in the castle, darkening everything in the room except for the symbol. The Triforce is still part of the FS universe. It may not be the primary focus of attention but it's still there lingering in the background until the creators can decide how to approach it.


Well obviously the Triforce is the symbol of the Royal Family, their nation, and religion. either A) the Triforce will be used to solve all the problems of Four Sword when it stops being profitable, B) They'll do something completely irrational with it that will drive us all nuts, IE, the Triforce peices are in the red, blue, and purple Links somehow, and Green Link is the Key that Unites and Balances their hearts in order to use it or something. and finally C) Four Sword is a seperate universe from the rest of the series, the Triforce has no part in FS, and it's just there to look cool ~.~ I don't like any of these options, but since when did Nintendo do what we wanted?

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 01:35 PM

Or D.) They could do what they always do and have Ganon have TOP somehow and have him attempt to steal the ToW from Zelda.

It would be interesting if they explain the connection between the Light Force nad the Triforce.

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 07:08 PM

Or, the far more simple answer of E...

The Triforce doesn't make any appearance in Four Swords other than some imagery. Like in Majora's Mask.

Lets face it, even if the Triforce isn't involved in the plot (it doesn't need to be, they've got enough stuff going on already), it would be weird wandering Hyrule and not seeing *any* images of the Triforce anywhere.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 11:17 AM

Things seem to be simplifying though. Vaati seems to be dead for good and Ganon is big bad now and will probably be the only baddie in the next FS game. So, unless the FS game is a prequel or something, it will envitably bring us back to the Triforce since that's Ganon's main priority.

Then again, they could be avoiding using the Triforce though because they're still pushing the FS games as the first games in the storyline despite evidence of the contrary.

Also, Triforce symbols in MM?

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 11:39 AM

We need Vaati to get resurrected and sealed away again all in one game for things to simplify.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 12:12 PM

As far as I remember, the only Triforce symbols in Majora's Mask were the ones on the Hero's Shield and the Ocarina of Time. Basically, only things that were brought from Hyrule to Termina. The Happy Mask Salesman and Link the Goron may've had some Triforce symbols on them, too.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 12:58 PM

Why Link the Goron?

There's a slightly warped Triforce symbol silhouetted on the ground when Link arrives in Termina. I believe the full symbol appears in one or two other places as well, although I cannot remember where exactly.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 01:30 PM

Yeah. I remember the two trinagle thingies and took it as Triforce minus Power since Link and Zelda both appear in the game (though Zelda only appeared in memory) and Ganon was not even mentioned. But then again, they were just trangles. Now that I think back, they could've been nothing more than random designs.

Other than that, I don't think they make any appearances other than stuff that was brought over from Hyrule into Termina. Link the Goron I might have to look into...

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 03:25 PM

No way, it was hardly random, it's quite obvious. Although I don't think the fact that one or two of the pieces were slightly different sizes were anything to do with who was in the game or in Termina or what, I figure it's just warped because, well, it's on one end of a connection between two different worlds, and most things in Termina are warped versions of something from Hyrule.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 04:00 PM

Triforce symbols are on the pillars along the road to Ikana and on some blocks in the Stone Tower.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 04:21 PM

Zol beat me to it... Indeed, the triforce symbols are on the pillars leading to Ikana, if you look at them the right way round. The triforce connection to MM involves Ikana, the only place in Termina with a Royal family, and a long history...

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 05:41 PM

Triforce symbols are on the pillars along the road to Ikana and on some blocks in the Stone Tower.


Boo-yah.

Showsni, yeah, there do seem to be some vague similarities between the Ikana Kingdom and the Hyrule Kingdom. After all, Ikana Castle, being the only castle in Termina, is effectively the 'alternate version' of Hyrule Castle.

We can't assume much more about Ikana other than that the legend (or a legend) of the Triforce was probably handed down thoughout the ages just like it was for the Royal Family of Hyrule.

Whether the Triforce is shared between the two worlds (which seems more likely, as the Goddesses probably created Termina along with Hyrule, as they did with all the different kingdoms and realms) or if it has it's own Triforce is another matter.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 06:22 PM

The original aLttP manual mentions there being a whole bunch of emmigration from Hyrule, which to me explains the similarities in the gene pools and the triforce marks in MM.
Hell, if the mask salesman can get there, and link can get back (apparently) wihtout the aid of MM, then I'd say it's a fair enough bet that other people found their way there.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 08:22 PM

Emmigration? Don't remember that at all. A quote would be nice.

And you would of thought that if enough people went to Termina to create ALMOST EXACT COPIES OF PEOPLE FROM HYRULE then someone would say 'hey, there's this portal to another world in the Lost Woods, lets go visit'.

Termina is a parallel world. That's why many of the characters are the same, and many of the locations have distinct similarities. Kotake and Koume even have the same names, for heck's sake. Those are some pretty funky genes.

...Hold it, since when did ALttP occur before MM anyway? I guess you just mean the early backstory. Still don't remember anything specific about emmigration going on, and even if there was it hardly proves anything. Termina is still a mysterious world that only a select few know seem to know about.

Despite that, it may be possible that the founders of the Ikana Kingdom could of originally been people who stumbled upon Termina, which would explain the Triforce symbols, although there's no evidence for that. But still, the reason why the characters are the same is because they're like, alternate versions.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 08:42 PM

Bah! Who cares? Even if there was some sort of emmigration mentioned in ALttP manual I doubt it was to tErmina (more than like it was other people coming INTO Hyrule) and as for the Triforce symbols in MM, I think itr's just Nintendo being weird. It could be that some hYlians came across that world a long time ago and became the Ikanas but I doubt it. Makes for juicy fanficcing though.

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 06:48 AM

*Blinks* I just SAID that.

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 09:09 AM

And with less typos. Bad fingers, bad!

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 09:16 AM

Roaming fingers. Nasty evil roaming fingers.

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