Whenever they say 'lure' they generally mean 'force', basically distract him into fighting and weaken him, then force him in. But, apart from that, if Zelda HAD intended to the final battle to take place in the ToT (I don't think she did, though, I think she knew they would have to go to Ganon's Castle), why would the Sage's Seal be needed at all by your reckoning? Anyway, it's the Sage's Seal that *lasts*, not the Master Sword. The Master Sword is moved to the Lost Woods (or to Hyrule Castle) but the seal remains through time. The seal is what's needed to keep Ganon there, not the sword.
Sigh... magic is not the simplest thing. I didn't think the Sages Seal was needed if they were able to push him into the portal to the SR and close it with the MS, but I thought that what they needed the Sages for was to open the portal where there usually isn't one (Ganon's Tower) and close it without the MS. But, you seem to have some good reasons against that. I'm still kinda leaning to my 'the MS can keep Ganon in' idea.
Except he casually returns it to the Lost Woods. ¬.¬ The Master Sword appears completely unrelated to the seal in ALttP.
Of course it's unrelated, but I'm saying, it was
related in OOT- so, if the Sages presumably made the MS in the first place, then they could've (presumably
) did some sort of magical thing, like Ganon can do, and use the MS to block the Evil Realm, just as it did in OOT. The moral of the story is, we shouldn't say that the MS can't block the SR because it doesn't in ALTTP- As you said, it's completely unrelated at the time. However, let's say the MS is in the PoT. You can't get in the SR, so what does it look like inside the SR? Is there another MS right where Link always is in OOT, or can you just not use that blue crystal elevator thing?
Presumably. Don't ask me. ALttP just proves that as long as the Sage's Seal is not there, he can easily do such a thing given enough time. Heck, even WITH their seal he can partially do it.
There's a problem with this, and it is thus... blah blah blah... Now, in TWW, they have experienced Ganon 'spreading darkness' across the kingdom, then being defeated by a boy clothed in green who 'appeared from nowhere' and had travelled through time (hence the appearing from nowhere, that's WHY they knew him as the Hero of Time). He weilded the blade and defeated Ganon.
Ganon taking over Hyrule with the Triforce of Power, Link appearing from seemingly nowhere, and Link weilding the Master Sword to fight Ganon, none of these things happened in the Young Link world. The backstory for TWW is basically the adult events of OoT, not the Young Link events.
Hmm... Well, Ganondorf did spread a lot of darkness, with the Deku Tree, the Goron starvation, Jabu Jabu, killing the Ocarina brothers, hypnotizing Nabooru, and the assault on Hyrule Castle- there was a dead soldier, so that proves it was an actual battle. Of course, he doesn't have the ToP, and that kills my idea... However, still, in my idea, Link did
travel through time in the Young part, because he experienced everything that happened in the future. But still, with all that stuff...
So, is it impossible that people still hated Ganondorf, so they were glad that Link defeated him in the 'future that never happened,' and took it as 'fact' because... even if it didn't actually happen
in their 'existence,' it happened in Link's separate 'existence,' and... uh...
(must not go insane) so basically, they took in Link's account of defeating Ganondorf in the future-that-never-happened because that resulted in Ganondorf being 'subdued' in the past.
Yes, that is fanfictiony, but I hear all sorts of wierd stuff about 'well Ganondorf probably went to prison in the past,' or 'well Ganondorf was sent into the SR in both the adult and young times.' And, is it as crazy as Mad Scrub's... thing?
I didn't bother putting it in spoilers because it's not really spoilers, everyone will find out within five seconds of switching on the game that Link's a farmboy. That's if they don't already know...
It would be nice if they gave us an easy answer like a conventient old man. ¬.¬ Doubt it though, unfortunately.
I heard something about the producers saying that TP would start to make the storyline have more sense, but that was probably in that April Fools interview... right?
Who thinks you're stupid? *Confused*
Mad Scrub... I am very confused by all that. XP
Well, you thought that I thought that TP would take place in OOT's time, and that would have made me look like a 'n00b,' which I am, but, whatever- point is, I know where TP comes in, and I don't think it's in OOT or after TWW like the stereotypical 20-posts guy.
And I am very confused by all that too, Mad Scrub.
Oh, just remembered, some people in TWW's time wouldn't even think the account at the beginning of TWW is real, so how different is it if TWW's backstory only happened in a separate existence? Just throwing that out there.
Edited by Rogue Cucco, 01 June 2006 - 11:43 AM.