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[Green Goblin]

Has to be posted. In anycase, I'm on the same boat as DJ. It's not gonna influence my purchase in any way, but I'm still stuck on "wtf?" mode. o_o;

[ESK]

How do i put my feelings into words?


Ah yes....

















DEAR GOD, NO! WTF!!! WHAT WERE THEY SMOKING? WII? I THOUGHT IT WAS A TYPO UNTIL I SAW THE FLASH THING ON THE OFFICIAL SITE. IT TAKETH THE URINE - LITERALLY! IT SOUNDS LIKE A JAPANESE SOFT DRINK OR SOME MYTHICAL CREATURE THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A BALL OF FLUFF!

'WII' WILL CHANGE THE WORLD? NO, 'WII' WILL BREAK INTO TEARS. NINTENDO, YOU'VE NEVER LET ME DOWN BEFORE - WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?

THE ONE TIME XBOX AND PS OWNERS HAD AN OUNCE OF ADMIRATION IN THEIR VOICE AS THEY SAID 'REVOLUTION' AND NOW WII AND WE SHALL BE MOCKED. IT'S ANOTHER NAIL IN THE NINTENDO COFFIN





Yeah, that about covers it.

[Flint]

But it does look like it will be the same name everywhere. o.o
Japan
Europe
Australia

. That's part of the genius of it.

NINTENDO, YOU'VE NEVER LET ME DOWN BEFORE - WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?

What makes you think they're letting you down this time?

Everybody, chill the fuck out. Especially you, Batch. Honestly. That was unnecessary.

Wii is awesome. Who gives a crap what it's called? Get it, play the games, enjoy them. Nintendo knows what it's doing. It always has (except for the Virtua Boy). It's ALWAYS been up to YOU, the consumer, to get your narrow minded head out of your ass and realize it. Stop being so shallow. If XBox and Sony fanboys want to mock it, let them. It's their loss. If it bothers you so much, then degree in math, pursue a career in the gaming industry, work your way up, and then name a console whatever you want. Until then, stfu, crybabies.

Wii ftw.

Edited by Flint, 28 April 2006 - 05:42 AM.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

*and from way above* Knights Who Say Wii? This may be a marketing strategy they might actually be able to use! XD

I don't know... judging from the absolutely atrocious Nintendo adverts I've seen here in the UK and the lack of adverts, I somehow doubt NoE is clever enough to capitalise on that particular strategy.

[Ken the Wandering Soul]

I was in "wtf?" mode for awhile before debating with myself and finally decided that I liked it. Think about--Wii. Sony and Microsoft have been using the same name for their consoles ever since they entered the market, slapping on a number each time they have a new console: Playstation and X-Box. Wii is such an obscure word compared to those. Yeah sure there are all sorts of puns for it, but think about it for awhile. There is just something rather cryptic about Wii, whither its the double i spelling, or the fact that it consists of one syllable.

[Veteran]

Everybody, chill the fuck out. Especially you, Batch. Honestly. That was unnecessary.

No more unnecessary than your raging optimism.

Batch has reacted to this the same way I reacted to the controller when I first saw it. We are both people who love Nintendo but have reached the final straw. We can't put up with it any longer.

I realised that Ninty was doomed with the remote. Now the gravestone of Nintendo will have "Wii" written on it.





Before we go again in endless circles with a reasonable well thought out debate about the future of Nintendo, let me just say one thing. I have no evidence that backs up my claims that Nintendo will be 3rd party or a solely portable manufacturer before too long. It is my impression that this will come to fruition. I have no need to defend my position because I have nothing to build an argument on. I see a remote control and 'Wii' and I bang my head upon my desk until I bleed out of sheer frustration.

Aside, I am happy, or rather ironically happy, that people who defended the controller now have little seeds of doubt about the Wii because of the name. Gradually Nintendo is sucking the hope and the faith out of it's followers.

[Toan]

Hmm.

Heard about this last night from a friend of mine, and I thought he was kidding.

I really am wondering, though... It is a "cool" name, I suppose, but what compelled them to change it to "Wii"? Everytime someone types that out all capped I almost read World War 2 - so confusing!

I think that if something of this caliber were pulled off 5 years ago I would be in here, screaming (or typing in full huge caps at least) about how much I hated the decision, how much Sony and Microsoft should burn in hell JUST so I can see Ninty suceed... but now I'm older, more open minded... and it seems that Ninty just... well, they do this to themselves... I don't want it to happen, as I've always loved their games and consoles, but... I think it's almost inevitable. I'll buy a Revo- err... "Wii", and enjoy a few games on it, but I think this will be their last home console. So much for innovation. >_<

Last thing, as I was severly confused (and still am): is it pronounced "Wee" or "Why"?

[Tekky]

Heh, the term isnt quite as perverted back in Northern Ireland or Scotland, where "wee" is a very common prefix to many phrases, e.g. a wee cup of tea. Hence I'll have a wee go on your Wii...

I don't think I'll buy a Wii. Not cause of the name, even though it's bizarre a mon avis, but rather than I hardly play video games anymore; half my year I spend at Uni where I dont have a TV, so there is really no point. I only bought a Cube to play WW/MQ, so I dont really think a Wii will be worth my while

[thabto81]

So if by hating the name "Wii" and thinking Nintendo has gone off the deep end shows that were interested in the system. Well that's certainly interesting.

And yet you continue to talk about it...

And if Nintendo isn't interested in marketing to gamers, then what are they doing? They're alienating gamers, who've kept them alive for 20 years, and at the same time trying to appeal to non-gamers who, by definition, won't be drawn to a gaming console (let alone one called "Wii")? What an excellent business decision.

I'm curious as to how exactly you came to this conclusion. If this is your opinion, fine then, state it as such. However, it sounds as if you're making a boisterous claim with little to nothing to back it up. So lemme ask you: you're a gamer, if this new name has isolated you does that mean you're not going to get Wii when it comes out? And, as a gamer, how exactly do you know what a non-gamer is or isn't going to buy? Do you have some sort of education in marketing or advertising that I am unaware of?

Sorry. We'll never make fun of an obviously funny name again. Bah, lighten up.

I don't care if you wanna make fun of it. *sigh* My issue is with making rash statements (made by HoW quoted above) and exaggerated comments as if the world was going to end (posted by batchGC earlier). It's not me that needs lightening up. It is just a game system afterall.

Aside, I am happy, or rather ironically happy, that people who defended the controller now have little seeds of doubt about the Wii because of the name. Gradually Nintendo is sucking the hope and the faith out of it's followers.

Really? Because there are more then just a few people who don't mind the name or *gasp* actually like it. Perhaps time will tell better then your predictions. Who knows? You could be right. You could also be wrong. You don't sound like you'd be happy to be wrong though. In fact, you sound as if nothing would make you happier then to see Nintendo burst into flames. That's fine by me but it doesn't make your arguments terribly appealing.

Edited by thabto81, 28 April 2006 - 01:53 PM.

[Veteran]

You could be right. You could also be wrong. You don't sound like you'd be happy to be wrong though. In fact, you sound as if nothing would make you happier then to see Nintendo burst into flames. That's fine by me but it doesn't make your arguments terribly appealing.

That's... true. I think it's more to do with me being at my wit's end rather than persuading people to get on board with me.

Nintendo's doing it for me! Haha! *zing*

But you're right, most of me does want to turn out to be right. I guess I do want Nintendo to fail and fail miserably. Yet, there is still a tiny little (wee, if you will) Ninty fanboy inside me that hopes this is a resounding success.

I win either way.

[spunky-monkey]

Nintendo Revolution...sorry Nintendo Wii?


Wii as in wee? As in pee?


WTF? Shall I contribute something really stupid/random like: "And this little piggy went wee wee wee all the way home!"

[Hero of Winds]

Nintendo knows what it's doing.

Do you really want to go down that road, Flint? To me, it sounds like your "raging optimism" (as Vet puts it) is stemmed from the fact that Wii is your only choice. You either don't want or can't afford a PS3 or 360, and are by default stuck with this, so you HAVE to maintain some degree of damage control, or you won't be playing new games for another five years.

Nintendo has made several errors in it's history (not nearly as many as Sony or MS), many of which have come back to haunt them. This will be one of them.

Wii is such an obscure word compared to those.

How appropriate for the console.

And yet you continue to talk about it...

You're really not this stupid. I know you aren't.

Going by your logic, you still semi-kind-of-like Bush because you've ranted about him a lot in Contro (despite the fact that those rants were not in the least bit in his favor).

And, as a gamer, how exactly do you know what a non-gamer is or isn't going to buy? Do you have some sort of education in marketing or advertising that I am unaware of?

No, but I have quite a few credentials in the field of logic. It's in the name: non-gamer. One who does not play video games, for any variety of reasons. By definition, how can a video game console appeal to a non-gamer?

As I've said before (maybe not here), I'm not using the name as a springboard to launch into 5-year-old mode. I simply hate the name. There's nothing likeable about it to me, and there's nothing in it that suggests Nintendo is poised for a tremendous comeback.

Edited by Hero of Winds, 28 April 2006 - 02:26 PM.

[Selena]

It's probably safe to say that those who originally wanted a Revolution will still buy this... console... despite what ever name it happens to have. Albeit now they'll probably feel a bit silly and a little embarrassed going up to the counter and asking for a "WEEE!" instead of a Revolution. But unless there's good adverts for it, most older gamers who are neutral in the console wars will probably just look at it and go "wtf?"

So if you're hoping Nintendo can last into another generation or two, hope they've got some kickass games to atone for the silly name.

*ponder* And going back to when everything had a '64' slapped to the end of it...

"Starfox Wii"
"The Legend of Wii"
"Wii, Mario!"
"Metroid Prime Wii"
"Star Wars: Wii Squadron"


....*sigh* I'm sure I'll stop finding this utterly amusing before tomorrow, so bear with me. XP

Edited by Selena, 28 April 2006 - 04:06 PM.

[FireHexer2]

007 Wii Edition

[Selena]

Now, now, it'd probably be more like "007: From Russia With Wii." Or "James Bond: Wii Royale."

[ESK]

Not forgetting Resident Wiivil!

[thabto81]

You're really not this stupid. I know you aren't.

Going by your logic, you still semi-kind-of-like Bush because you've ranted about him a lot in Contro (despite the fact that those rants were not in the least bit in his favor).

Logic. Right. As if talking about something or ranting about it automatically means one likes it. Think back HoW, did I use the word "like"? You seem to think I did. Then again, you seem to think I use a lot of words I didn't. So I'm sorry if your "logic" seems based more on assumptions then it does facts.

No, but I have quite a few credentials in the field of logic.

"Credentials in the field of logic". I hope, I pray, you're talking about actual classes in logistics or something and not, you know, about the fact that you're alive.

It's in the name: non-gamer. One who does not play video games, for any variety of reasons. By definition, how can a video game console appeal to a non-gamer?

I don't know such things. All I know is that my mother, who dislikes video games with a passion, spent nearly two hours playing Wario Ware Touched on my DS. So I can only assume it's the game play that kept her hooked for those two hours. But, like I said, my knowledge of such things is minimal at best.

As I've said before (maybe not here), I'm not using the name as a springboard to launch into 5-year-old mode. I simply hate the name. There's nothing likeable about it to me, and there's nothing in it that suggests Nintendo is poised for a tremendous comeback.

Great. That's all anyone really wants to know. Why you started going off about how it's unmarketable and why when you've stated you basically don't know what you're talking about is beyond me.

That's... true. I think it's more to do with me being at my wit's end rather than persuading people to get on board with me.

Nintendo's doing it for me! Haha! *zing*

But you're right, most of me does want to turn out to be right. I guess I do want Nintendo to fail and fail miserably. Yet, there is still a tiny little (wee, if you will) Ninty fanboy inside me that hopes this is a resounding success.

I win either way.

I'm sorry you feel that way. Personally, I don't want to see Nintendo fail. I can't say I like this name. I can't say I hate it either. I'm still pondering it. The controller on the other hand has not lost any of its appeal, for me at least. Have you by chance been reading up on "Red Steel"? Just hearing about what that game is going to (possibly) do gets me excited. I hope, for your sake and mine, that they do prove you wrong.

[D~N]

It's growing on me, this Wii. I like that it has some sort of meaning rather than PS3 and XBox 360. Also, i like that it shows togetherness and is different. It really seperates them from the norm, which could ork, or hurt.

But what if this: right now, you all say "oh playing my Wii sounds stupid" Well, what if this gets to be a more mainstream term, and in that context, actually isn't a dirty joke. Tell me, did playing nintendo make sense to you before you did? once it becomes mainstream, Wii will have a whole 'nother meaning. However, this may not happen because immature potty mouths can't get past Wii. And for that, i pitty nintendo, because just when they tried to sound like a mature company, they use wii. But, I like it now, so I can't wait to thrust my Wiimote across the room! Huray for Wii!

[Selena]

Not forgetting Resident Wiivil!

Raccoon City - Melchior Insect Research Facility

"Police secured the Melchior Facility downtown after several missing person reports were filed by the families of various researchers who hadn't returned home. Three days earlier, the facility received a shipment of a new 'wonder drug' that would prevent beneficial insects from dying when insecticides were sprayed over a large area. However, when scientists tested the new serum on several insects, things did not go according to plan. The insects injected grew rapidly in size, and their exoskeletons began to turn more and more grotesque. The insects began to spit up acid and moan, rather like a love-deprived cow, and scampered out of their cages. The scientists were caught off guard, and soon enough, all were killed.

The insects had been rounded up and contained by the STARs unit upon their arrival, but one of the ten insects went missing. Now, Raccoon City is faced with a new terror. Zombie bugs, who have spread through the city and killed hundreds of its citizens. Now, it's up to Chris and Claire Redfield to put a stop to the madness once and for all."

RESIDENT WIIVIL

Next Christmas, the T-Virus spreads again.



...*nod*

[Hero of Winds]

Great. That's all anyone really wants to know. Why you started going off about how it's unmarketable and why when you've stated you basically don't know what you're talking about is beyond me.

Now, hold on, let me review my notes here.... Mmm... Hmmm... ah ha! Just I thought! I never said that.

EDIT - You know what? Never mind.

Edited by Hero of Winds, 28 April 2006 - 07:17 PM.

[DarkJuno]

Ya know, both the extreme optimissim and extreme shallow dislike I see here are, in fact, both unfounded. Yeah, I'm still kinda "Gwah?" about the name (and probably will be 'till the end of time), but all we have to go for in even remotely -rimshot- judging the Re....erm, Wii is the controller and Red Steel. That'd be like judging the 360 on it looking like it's from KitchenAid or trying to fry burgers on the PS3.

So, uh, I still have the exact same opinion on the Wii as the PS3 - there are things thatmake me go "Hmmm" and "Eh?" but I'm not exactly convinced to get either of them - not at launch anyway. MGS4 and more of the usual solid Nintendo games will pretty much guarantee that I will eventually, but not at launch.

360's a different story since I've already had the chance to play it for far longer then I should have, and on an HDTV at that, but that's a different thread.

[Hana-Nezumi]

I went on 2channel, and it seems like the Japanese also like to make urine jokes about it, as well as having something to do with the devil horns...

[Wanchimaera]

I heard about this at GameStop this afternoon. A certain Rocko's Modern Life episode comes to mind, though...

[thabto81]

Now, hold on, let me review my notes here.... Mmm... Hmmm... ah ha! Just I thought! I never said that.

Then why did you say, "No, but I have quite a few credentials in the field of logic" when I asked you if you had any education in marketing or advertising?

[Mad Scrub]

I heard about this at GameStop this afternoon. A certain Rocko's Modern Life episode comes to mind, though...

Your conscience has spoken. *Pop*.

Here is a list of names I thought up that I like more than Wii.

• Nintendo Evolution or Evolved (Representing Nintendo's Evolution over the years, the Virtual Console and the leaps and bounds they continue to make in terms of gameplay)
• Nintendo Universal (Representing it's appeal to people of all ages)
• Nintendo Worldwide (Same except Aliens are excluded)
• Nintendo Ages (Once again refers to Nintendo's Evolution, the Virtual Console and it's appeal to people of all ages)

I'm still looking forward to the release of the Wiivolution though.

Edited by Mad Scrub, 28 April 2006 - 11:48 PM.

[Green Goblin]

God I can't believe people still don't get it.

They get it

So does he

One thing that they say in marketing is that no publicity is bad publicity. The name is without a doubt a bit off from the norm, but if you haven't been paying attention to the Internet as a whole, there isn't a single gaming website out there that isn't discussing the Wii. Hell, look at THESE forums. When was the last time you saw a thread in the gaming section jump up over 75 posts in 24 hours?? It's like that virtually everywhere. Even if it's a lame bathroom pun, the term "Wii" is being used more and more. The internet was DESIGNED as a tool for people to bitch on, so the negative comments won't get that bad, as far as I'm concerned (anyone who thinks the name itself will spell doom really can't be taken seriously, as far as i'm concerned). You can't BUY that kind of publicity. Hell, Sony announced a PS1 emulator for its PSP and even IT didn't get this type of attention. It spreads the name around for the casuals who didn't even know the console exists (and yes, there ae people who honestly didn't know about the Wii at all) and because they released its name BEFORE E3, the attention then can be centered on the actual games.

As for the name itself, I'm not gonna deny that it's weird. But then again, [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img] of the stuff we have has weird names. We listen to music on our Ipods. We use search engines like Google and Yahoo. We drive our Hummers/Volvos/Pontiacs/Kias/Scions. They're going for somethign unique that will hopefully become a household name. After seeing the DS beat the PSP and seeing the remote become accepted by people, I think we owe Nintendo the benefit of the doubt.

Besides, name aside, I'm still gonna buy one at release, as are [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img] of the people here

[Flint]

Raging optomism? Don't be rediculous.

Yes, "Wii" does sound silly, but it's creative. Sure, so was Revolution, and I would have been happier with Revolution, but you guys are simply letting the immature puns and fear of being picked on cloud your judgement.

I'm not defending the Wii because i'm clinging to it. It's not because i'm not getting a 360 or PS3. Hell, until a couple of months ago, I didn't even know if I really wanted a Revolution. I'm defending the Wii because you guys, the so-called loyal Nintendo fans, are acting like long-time Nintendo haters.

I don't doubt that the strange name will deter many people from playing the Wii (even though the thought of that happening is purely embarassing... I mean really, disowning a system because of its NAME? GROW UP!) and I do have fear that this radical move might hurt Nintendo. But Nintendo has their reasons. They didn't just pick something for people to laugh at. They know how it sounds, believe it or not they're smart people. But they aren't afraid, because evidently there's a lot for them to have faith in.

All i'm saying is whining about the name of a console is even worse than whining about a radical new controller scheme or whining about cel shaded Hylians.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

After seeing the DS beat the PSP and seeing the remote become accepted by people, I think we owe Nintendo the benefit of the doubt.

Actually, in the UK, it's the other way round.

And yes, I understand what you're getting at, but I'm afraid their media strategy will backfire on them. Something that seems good at the time may not be a good idea in retrospect.

You know, Wii could be one of the most powerful Internet memes since "All your base are belong to us"

Edited by Wolf_ODonnell, 29 April 2006 - 07:05 AM.

[dcLx]

In my opinion, the Wii will do very badly, first of all the name (I don't really care for it but think about the Americans all they care for is the outside of the games) They won't go the a game store and ask for a Wii...Also, the graphics, these are definetly not Next-Gen graphics I mean did you guys look at them? They looked like clay people or something or that might've been just the game that was bad. Another thing the controller, it might've been an innovative idea but who would want to play hours of games running around everywhere and especially having to hold a joystick in one hand and the controller in the other? I wouldn't want to, first of all moving around just to play a game is a bad idea. In plus, the controller doesn't even look that comfortable to hold in the first place.