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[Bond Extreme]

Its really sad how some artists are making there music these days with the swearing, and sexual references. The most where it goes bad is Rap, R&B, and Pop. Some of the things I'm hearing these days I can't believe. Even if they play the censored songs on the radio it's still almost as bad. I tell ya the music these days could really be affecting the children. Its really sad how the governments allow this.

I want to hear your opinions about this.

[Selena]

Nah. Music always involved that stuff. Even my precious 60's and 70's rock. It's just now it's more.... in your face, I guess. Although I admit that the older stuff was a little more subtle or clever about it.

[Bond Extreme]

Yeah. The older music did have a bit in it but the music these days are just much worse.

[Selena]

a BIT?



Not really, no. I'd say they're on par in terms of how often such references appeared. But like I said, the newer stuff is more overt about it.

[dcLx]

I'm fine with that but I hate when people point and say shit about Rap , R&B , Reggae , Hip Hop , Etc.

Have you guys even tried to listen to rap? Its real good..I listen to all kinds of music but everything is fine if you dont like it, don't listen to it

[krismas]

i jus gotta say that the music now is really gettin repetitive,unoriginal,and boring.i mean the perfect example is 50.sure he sells [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img]. but wen has he ever rapped about anything other than what his first albums were about(excluddin the undergreound stuff)im gettin really annoyed with rap, and r&b now.there are a few that stand out though

[Bond Extreme]

I can't help it. My brother plays his dumb rap all the time. There are sometimes curse words. Its so annoying. Sorry, Hustla but I can not stand rap at all.

[Vazor]

Just remember folks: you can't spell crap without rap.

Unoriginal, offensive, amoral, and completely devoid of any traces of actual music.

[krismas]

lmao i agree but it can get catchy at times...i jus dont like all those "gangsat niggaz" that be sayin s#$% about themselves like its no tomorrow

[Bond Extreme]

Just remember folks: you can't spell crap without rap.

LOL. Very true.

[Selena]

And that line was as original as you claim rap to be. XP


*sigh* I'm suprised I'm gonna do this but.... rap really isn't as bad as a lot of people say. It's not my favorite genre, I admit. In fact, it's my second to least favorite genre, staying just slightly above country. You either like rock or you like rap, but you can't be kind to either less you be labelled a heretic. That seems to be some unwritten rule in the music lover's code. That, in turn, creates a lot of immature comments generated on either side.

Rap was mainly good back when it was still new and fresh (and it was somewhat more tasteful back then as well), but there are a few songs I can stand today. And I largely dislike the stuff. I don't have blind hate for other genres just... because. It's a form of music, but not conventional music with instruments and stuff. Anyone who says that rappers aren't talented hasn't attempted to rap. I can't even talk that fast and make up rhymes on the spot.

The ratio to tasteful vs. vulgar might be more skewed in the rap genre because of the 'gangsta' image people put on, but that's mainly due to the media. The are, believe it or not, tasteful rap songs in the world. Or at least, ones that aren't the horror stories make them out to be. Hell, I've even heard of "Christian Gangsta Rap." Although I think that's an oxymoron. *scratches head*

I don't like the genre, but I don't bash it incessantly. Doing so seems rather immature. Like Hustla said. If you don't like it, don't listen to it and shuddap.

Unoriginal, offensive, amoral

So's a lot of mainstream rock, from both now and the past. Most other genres for that matter. Your point?

[Flint]

My brother plays his dumb rap all the time. There are sometimes curse words.

Sometimes?

Anywho. My personal opinion is that rap is bad. Therefore I don't listen to it. But I do admit that a good portion can be pretty catchy, and if the lyrics aren't terrible, I can stand it. The thing is, when it's not the excessive vulgarity, it's the poor grammar. I can't stand the hip-hop culture because it has spawned the worst slang the history of spoken language has ever known.

At least when AC/DC was singing about doing "dirty deeds," and Pink Floyd was singing about "young lust," it was comprehendable.

Also, on the topic of originality.. i'd like to point out that it's nearly impossible to be original with music anymore. There's only so much that can be done, and also artists tend to lean towards doing what has worked and sold well rather than trying to be too creative and risking a flop. I suggest checking out more underground rock. Machinae Supremacy is a good start.

[krismas]

yea i guess it is hard to be original but wen u say the same line 100 different ways, thas jus wen ya give up

[Flint]

http://video.google....mily guy stewie

Just thought i'd share.

[krismas]

lmao wow i forgot bout that.has funny!family guy is the s#$%

[Vazor]

At least when AC/DC was singing about doing "dirty deeds," and Pink Floyd was singing about "young lust," it was comprehendable..

Just for the record, Young Lust is the stage in the rock opera of The Wall where the main character (a rock star who is clearly mentally disturbed) stoops to womanizing, and is obviously a satire of the sexual habbits of popular musicians.

I see your point, but I just wanted to get that cleared up, seeing as The Wall is my favorite album.

Also, on the topic of originality.. i'd like to point out that it's nearly impossible to be original with music anymore. There's only so much that can be done, and also artists tend to lean towards doing what has worked and sold well rather than trying to be too creative and risking a flop. I suggest checking out more underground rock. Machinae Supremacy is a good start.

Eh, the problem with underground rock is that the subgenre is in many cases an excuse to suck. There's a lot of good underground rock, but the majority of it is, well...yeah.

I can't stand the hip-hop culture because it has spawned the worst slang the history of spoken language has ever known.

I totally agree. The problem is, when you try to explain that to them, they say something along the lines of "Grammar? Fuck that shit."

[Flint]

Just for the record, Young Lust is the stage in the rock opera of The Wall where the main character (a rock star who is clearly mentally disturbed) stoops to womanizing, and is obviously a satire of the sexual habbits of popular musicians.

Yes, I know that. I've seen the movie as well. One of the greatest albums ever.

It was just one of the first examples that came to mind.

[Toan]

The problem is, when you try to explain that to them, they say something along the lines of "Grammar? Fuck that shit."

No no no, it's "Grammer? Fuck that shit." Jeez, at least represent them correctly.

True, sometimes it's idiocy speaking in rap, but... I really do enjoy some of the catchier songs. The only rap artist I will buy albums of is Ludacris though - he's quite original with his work (poking fun at Hollywood and popular culture with some of his lyrics) and most of his stuff is catchy without an excess of curse words. Enjoyable.

[Flint]

Weird Al is where it's at.

[krismas]

yea ludacris i can stand cuz he doesn do the same as evry1 else

[Goose]

DO you guys know John Legend?

[Bond Extreme]

I actually think that Rap is one of the reasons a lot of teens are failing school. Well at least the ones that want to be cool. In rap they wear are nice clothes. In rap they swear. In rap they use sexual references. In rap they try to be cool. Now these days in the people who try to act cool have all of those or some of those things in their personality. So I think they get most of it from rap.

[Selena]

People have been blaming the decadence of teenagers on music since Elvis, at least. People fail school because they're idiots, not because they listen to a bunch of guys rapping about... whatever it is people rap about. Drugs and sex0rz.


Teenagers, in a generic sense, have always been fools. Regardless of what the current trends are. It's part of being a teenager. References to sex, drugs and violence have been present since before the advent of rap. No matter the time period, young adults always try to find ways to rebel and be 'bad' in order to be cool. Rap, rock, whatever, isn't the true cause. After all, those gnarly bikers in the 50's were around before rap, and they'd probably beat the ass of any gangsta in their path.

In rap they swear. In rap they use sexual references.

I swear enough to make a Navy sailor's ears bleed sometimes, and anyone who talks to me for more than five minutes is sure to discover that I'm pervy. And I don't like rap. I'm just uncouth (at least when not forced to be cordial).

[Bond Extreme]

One of the reasons why teens are so dumb is because they want to be cool. Worrying about your appearance doesn't pass you in school. I think it’s so foolish. But it’s funny because I saw some people with their boxers showing halfway.

Anyway, Selena yeah you can also swear from other things and not just rap. I do think though a lot of the swearing comes from rap. But, Selena you just swear your head off is I'm guessing that’s just the way you where raised.

[Delphi]

Rap doesn't cause kids to fail school. That's a ludicrous statement. Also the sign of a fanatic or an ill imformed mind.

On that note, I don't like like rap. I've listened to it and it just doesn't strike my fancy. Oh well. So I don't listen to it. that doesn't mean by any strech of the imagination that I have better music tastes than anyone. I listen to my fair share of bands that people think should die. Evanescence being one, several J-Pop bands. I listen to what I like and I like it that way. I also happen to have extremely sensitive ears so sometimes music with an extremely percussive bassline can hurt my ears. That doesn't limit itself to rap. Lots of other music can do the same thing. And people like to listen to their music really loud so I sometimes look like a music snob when really my ears are hurting REALLY bad. That said, my main listening choices are soundtracks from movies and anime, stuff like Enya, Sarah Brightman, some Opera, some Classical, and some more contemporary music from a wide range of bands.

That said, Weird Al is my hero. XD Come on! He gets to make fun of people, act like a psycho, be on TV AND get paid for it all! Turns out he's pretty smart too. Maybe I should look into the song parody business...or not since I'm probalby not creative enough.

[Flint]

Rap doesn't cause kids to fail school. That's a ludicrous statement. Also the sign of a fanatic or an ill imformed mind..

I'd have to agree 100%

Weird Al is my hero. . . . . Turns out he's pretty smart too.

Yeah. He's a lyrical genius.

[dcLx]

I can't help it. My brother plays his dumb rap all the time. There are sometimes curse words. Its so annoying. Sorry, Hustla but I can not stand rap at all.

So don't listen to it...

and krismas

I think you're talking about movies..Music doesn't and can't get repetetive or it would be the same songs over and over

[Ducci]

Kanye West - Awesome Rapper, But a Dumb Fuck

[krismas]

yes it does hustla!!count how many times a rapper said "he got any kinda gun and is ready to shoot"in any way possible. i guarentee u aa whopping majority have said it.

[Bond Extreme]

So don't listen to it...

You don't understand. A lot of the time when he plays his @%# he plays it LOUD on the computer. I'm in the other room playing games..... Theres no escape!!!:icon_evil

But anyway it does get a bit annoying when people annoy me on what music I listen to. I like Classical, and Jazz. Yeah so what. If I like to listen to more civilized music that doesn't mean people have to come picking on me. I'm not sure if this is true but I hear that when you listen to Classical music it explands your mind. Even if thats not true I love classical.