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[Crazy Penguin]

has Ganondorf actually ever appeared so dead?

He turned into ashes in the original and exploded in LttP.

[Fyxe]

So, it's actually one of the least dead appearances of Ganon. But not of Ganondorf. Same thing, though.

However, he's definitely dead. His final lines pretty much confirm it, and anyways, Hyrule is washed away.

Personally I'm beginning to think *nothing* comes after TWW, which means it's somewhat seperate from other games like ALttP.

[Nevermind]

That or they could decide to make a sequel just cos TWW was that much fun.

[Showsni]

I think that TWW should come right at the end of any timeline. The king is very definite that any new land won't be Hyrule, after all.
But this is one of the least dead times we've seen Ganondorf. After LoZ and ALttP, he is definitely dead.

[Nevermind]

But in TWW, was the land you were in ever really Hyrule at ALL? Ever?

[Showsni]

Only the bit at the bottom of the sea. And everyone's forgotten it by then, so Hyrule's already dead in TWW, really.

[Fyxe]

That or they could decide to make a sequel just cos TWW was that much fun.

Well, there's Tetra's Trackers...

[mohammedali]

WW does seem like the last game in the series, but as it also seems like a direct sequal to OoT, it suggests an alternate timeline. I personally subscribe to this being due to a timeline split after OoT, though this isn't the only way more than one timeline can work.

As for Ganon dying. In LoZ he dies *but* there is an explination of how he could be revived. In aLttP we see him die as well, though only in his Ganon form. WW is the only game that shows him die in human form. Actually, it's just as assumtion he's dead, though it does seem likely.

Mohammed Ali

[GJ Skywalker]

Hyrule being dead and all depresses me, even though I know that Nintendo will keep making Zelda titles and that TWW's final ending gave me a feeling of hope.

[Kairu Hakubi]

Psh, Hyrule can survive if the creators want it to.. and if they're like me, they sure do.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Any Hyrule that exists after TWW cannot have the exact same feature names as the original Hyrule. I guess that means if any Hyrule exists, only the one in the original Zelda game exists after TWW.

[mohammedali]

Any Hyrule that exists after TWW cannot have the exact same feature names as the original Hyrule. I guess that means if any Hyrule exists, only the one in the original Zelda game exists after TWW.

Even LoZ had some of the same features like Specticle Mountains (or whatever they were called). I'm sure there were more, but it's been a while since I last looked at LoZ map.

Mohammed Ali

[Showsni]

Spectacle Rock. Down in the south. It's got death Mountain and a version of the Lost Woods, too.

[Fyxe]

I'd like to know if it's ever actually called the Lost Woods though. I vaguely remember it being 'Maze Woods' or something, if it was ever named at all.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

There we go, then. Even the original LoZ cannot go after TWW, although I guess since Death Mountain isn't a very original name in the first place, the fact that it's named after something in Hyrule might be a coincidence.

[~Light Goddess~]

In my opinion, TWW isn't the last one in the series. I have read many opinions on other sites about this, and I think that when Hyrule floods, in the very end, Tetra and Link start a journey to find a NEW Hyrule. What I'm guessing is that the original Hyrule was in TMC, OOT, and MM. Then, we know of TP to be in the middle somewhere, and supposably that's when Hyrule floods. And then many people forget of old Hyrule anyways, and it's then called the Great sea.

The Great Sea is still only known in TTW, and then they find a new land, just farther off the horizon, known as New Hyrule. I think from here this is when the other games come to play. I'm sorry to say this but I have never played the good Zelda games like ALLTP, or LA. I just started on OOT. So from after that, I wouldn't exactly know what order the games go to.

But I do think that LA or ALLTP shows that it is a NEW Hyrule. Since Link's on some unknown Island, once he's done there he just thinks it's some dream. Personally, I think he just thought it was a dream, and it's one of the old Islands of the Great Sea forgotten...

[Vazor]

Forests hold great power--they can change
one tiny island into a much larger island.
Soon, a day will come when all the islands
are one, connected by earth and grove.

Hmm...sounds to me like Hyrule's gonna be reformed after WW. Not only that, but soon apparently. No, no game could possibly come after WW. <_<

[Fyxe]

But Hyrule is gone. The king himself said that if they found a new land, it wouldn't be Hyrule.

Plus the Master Sword is still in Hyrule, and Ganon is rather dead.

[Vazor]

Yeah, they found a new land. Somewhere far, far away. The fact still remains that a new Hyrule will grow in the Great Sea's place.

Plus, Ganon's been killed more than once. LTTP, LoZ, OoX...

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Forests hold great power--they can change
one tiny island into a much larger island.
Soon, a day will come when all the islands
are one, connected by earth and grove.

Nope. That sounds to me like the rantings of a delusional tree.

Even if they do create a new Hyrule, it just won't be the same. Kakariko Village wouldn't be called Kakariko. Why would they call it Kakariko? In name of a village they'd never heard about?

Any new Hyrule that is created will not share the same place names or features as the old Hyrule. Maybe the TMC Hyrule could possibly be this new Hyrule, but the HA Hyrule (which comes after the TMC Hyrule) has a Kakariko Village too. None of the current games can fit after TWW bceause of this.

[dcLx]

Well, there's Tetra's Trackers...

Got Canceled.....

But in the beginning of TWW it says its been 200 years since the hero saved Hyrule so 200 years before would be OoT and MM?

[Fyxe]

Tetra's Trackers was still released in Japan, just cos it didn't make it over here doesn't mean it's not a Zelda game.

[Showsni]

It never says 200 years.

Does it?

I don't think so, anyway...

And it would have to be significantly more than that for the language to have changed so as to become completely unrecognizable.

[mohammedali]

It never says 200 years.

Does it?

I don't think so, anyway...

And it would have to be significantly more than that for the language to have changed so as to become completely unrecognizable.

You're right, it never says 200 years. It says hundreds of years. That can be any number and not necessarily 2. I would guess it was a long time between. As for the language... Having the original Kingdom drowned out would be a likely catalyst for people to loose all understanding of an old language - especially if many of the survivors were too young to actually read or something.

Mohammed Ali

[Fyxe]

Hundreds, that's 200+ years, and probably less than a thousand. I'd say 500 years is a fair enough estimate for most theories.

[Hero of Winds]

But Hyrule is gone.  The king himself said that if they found a new land, it wouldn't be Hyrule.

Plus the Master Sword is still in Hyrule, and Ganon is rather dead.

I think what the king meant was that any new land they find wouldn't be Hyrule because it wouldn't be tied down by the past. They can still call it Hyrule, I suppose, but it wouldn't be the original Hyrule as it wouldn't have all that baggage.

And we don't know that Ganon is dead. It appears that way, but it was never confirmed.