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#1 Mystic Kitsune

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 09:09 AM

Alright, so we had polls, weve had what you want to see, weve had what if there was a movie, so how bout we compile them to make one big thread...

So im just asking you post, IF there was to be a movie, where do you think it should be filmed? How should the story go, based on the game? Or new ideas? How should it go? Etc...

Basically, just give ideas...

(Note to the Mods and Admins: Sorry if this counts as "reviving old threads" feel free to close it if it is...)

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 09:15 AM

I'd say make it outside of the games' timeline. A stand-alone storyline. I think if a game were to be converted, OoT would be the best option.

I'd say filming in New Zealand. As for content, I think some great choreographed swordfights, bit of eye-candy, and a nice little twist to the story.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 10:22 AM

Not this again. >_<

An original story with a new Link that can work in the game timeline but isn't neccesary would probably be best.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 10:27 AM

Yeah sorry bout that 13-Year-Old, which is why i added the FINAL part of the title...

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 10:29 AM

Oh don't be ashamed kitsune. I mean it was my idea. He shouldent be blaming you. Besides I want this to be a REAL movie. Not when someone just says it and it never happens.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 10:43 AM

Bah, I just said that because we all know this thread will be attacked with "OMG! it shood remak3 t3h oot!" really quickly.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 10:46 AM

Heh, good point indeed 13-Year-Old...i really dont like it when people replace E with a 3...

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:05 AM

Hey, I was just saying that out of all the games, if one was to be remade, OoT would fit best. Think of it from a film-making point of view. You need an action-packed, compelling story, you need the villain, hero, and damsel to be introduced with no need for prior background knowledge about them, and you need a resolution at the end. It doesn't always have to be a happy ending, but it has to be resolved unless a sequel is in mind.

However, personally, I would prefer to see a stand-alone story outside of the gaming timeline.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:05 AM

I despise the very idea of a Zelda movie. Allow me to quote myself because I'm lazy.

The atmosphere of exploration that is so essential for the Zelda series would be impossible to replicate in a film, period. Already the most important aspect of the series is thrown out. Then there's the whole thing where you're supposed to be a young, innocent, untested and naive boy or young man, out to save the world. That can be replicated in a movie, but not as well, nor would it make as good of a movie in the eyes of the public.

What about the gameplay? I'd like to see you try to put that into a film. You see, despite what many people seem to forget, Zelda is more then just a story, a world, and an atmosphere - it's a game. The game aspect is just as important to developing the feel of the Zelda games as the rest of it.  

Link being a silent hero, an avatar of the player, is not as important as the last three things, but it has always been a staple of the Zelda series, and plays a vital role in immersion, especially in younger players. A movie with a silent hero would suck. A lot. So obviously anyone making a movie would either have a very bad movie on their hands, or they'd have to ditch the silent hero, and therefore another aspect of the Zelda series.  


I could go on, but I think I've made my stance clear, whether you agree or not. A Zelda movie, regardless of style, would be a fake, something that is not Zelda but pretends to be by assuming some of it's story and world. It would be a parody of Zelda.  

in the Zelda games, you are the one doing the exploring, and you are the one assuming the role of the inexperienced adventurer. This goes hand in hand with the silent hero thing. And I firmly believe that this would be lost in any film, regardless of how well done it is, or how much the person making the film tries to include it. How would you make people immerse themselves in the role of a person they're watching, a person who talks, a person which they have no control over? You couldn't.


I believe a good Zelda movie is just plain impossible.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:07 AM

Exactly los! I still dont think anyone could make a great zelda movie. But i want to see how this might turn out...

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:17 AM

Hard yes, impossible no. You do not need only to enact those pieces that you see. You could create an entire movie from just the information given in a Zelda game, whether your character was there or not.

In a story, you need a beginning that includes some introduction the story and the main characters; you need an obstacle or obstacles in which these characters must get through; you need a climax to the story in which the purpose comes together; you need a resolution to the story in which everything is tied up. A Zelda game has all this without the gameplay. Every dungeon, every item that Link gets, every discovery that he makes doesn't need to go into a movie. Just the story lying behind the game.

And a 'silent hero' does not mean a 'mute hero'. He already has a voice, just no dialogue, and he doesn't need to be overly talkative. Despite this, his talking in the games was assumed, they just never gave him lines. Just think

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:21 AM

Say all you want everyone. But with Miyamoto on my side a good zelda movie is possible. And besides Link could talk, but as the guitar man said it needs action pack. With explosions and all. I mean, if this movie is accomplished you would all be wimpering that you thought it was a lie, and a completly impssible thing. In my world anythig is possible, and I'm not givving up.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:23 AM

Thats the spirit! Never give up! ^_^...unless of course youre not giving up on doing a bad thing, which then youre supposed to stop...

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:23 AM

No explosions. Zelda does not need explosions. It needs good acting, good dialogue, good fighting, as well as good directing, good editing, and a good montage. Basically, good cinematography. The cinematography is what could make the Zelda story work.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:24 AM

Ok then. Will any mod quickly tell me if I am doing something wrong. If so I'll stop. If not, I will continue with my quest.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:29 AM

What do you mean doing something wrong? You seem to be perfectly on topic to me ^_^...

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:30 AM

Ok then. Will any mod quickly tell me if I am doing something wrong. If so I'll stop. If not, I will continue with my quest.



Ok then. It may not need explosions but what about exploding castles. Know what I mean. EXAPLE: Ganons Tower plumits to the ground. Plus it needs more kingdomfights, and you know regular legend stuff. If only I could make a.... Wait! That's it. That's it. I've got it. I should make a preview clip of the movie, then people could see the action, and the drama. Please someone help rightaway with a clip. :lol:

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:32 AM

Sure ill help...what do you need...

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:41 AM

Ok then. Will any mod quickly tell me if I am doing something wrong. If so I'll stop. If not, I will continue with my quest.



Ok then. It may not need explosions but what about exploding castles. Know what I mean. EXAPLE: Ganons Tower plumits to the ground. Plus it needs more kingdomfights, and you know regular legend stuff. If only I could make a.... Wait! That's it. That's it. I've got it. I should make a preview clip of the movie, then people could see the action, and the drama. Please someone help rightaway with a clip. :lol:

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:45 AM

Ok then. It may not need explosions but what about exploding castles. Know what I mean. EXAPLE: Ganons Tower plumits to the ground. Plus it needs more kingdomfights, and you know regular legend stuff. If only I could make a.... Wait! That's it. That's it. I've got it. I should make a preview clip of the movie, then people could see the action, and the drama. Please someone help rightaway with a clip.  :lol:



I need seperate... hold on.... I need cutted clips from a game preview or if anyone including you kitsune, knows how to do cgi or those computer stuff do either way, but I think making a clip would give people a visual look of the movie. :)

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:48 AM

Hm...well i do have some trailers...andi have the trailer for TP on my computer...is that what you want? Or do you want it from OoT?

(By the way, watch out for that double posting!)

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:52 AM

A bit of both thanks. Um... How long would it take + How will I take a look clip, cause' I'm thinking of making a website exclusively for the clip and the movie with some other zelda stuff.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:57 AM

I dont know how long it will take...ill see...ill pm you about that later...Im just wondering how i could send it to you...

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 12:02 PM

Paste it on a private message.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 12:05 PM

...a clip on a private message? That would be quite a large file dont you think? Are screenshots okay? You know just at numerous scenes...then again, if you want those, then just visit the nintendo website...

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 12:14 PM

Yes thank you,...but theres another thing that poped up. The scripts. I have them but I need someone that can make better ones or check mines. Remember. For Hyrule! :Linkgif:

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 12:17 PM

Alrighty, i guess ill check it as well...to edit it i mean...

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 01:44 PM

In a story, you need a beginning that includes some introduction the story and the main characters; you need an obstacle or obstacles in which these characters must get through; you need a climax to the story in which the purpose comes together; you need a resolution to the story in which everything is tied up. A Zelda game has all this without the gameplay. Every dungeon, every item that Link gets, every discovery that he makes doesn't need to go into a movie. Just the story lying behind the game.

Zelda is more then just some obstacles, a climax, a resolution, and a story ripped from the game series. The essence of the Zelda series involves many things, and I think if you missed some of these, it would not resemble Zelda at all. This includes gameplay, the sense of exploration that the series exudes, and the feeling that you are a hero traveling through this mythical land.

All three of those things, the most important aspects of the series, could not be done in a movie, period. You could make a movie with a story related to Zelda, even bring in characters, music, and visual style... but in the end it would not be Zelda, at all. It'd be like one of those fanfics made by writers who have no clue what makes Zelda what it is, and just want to mess around with the characters and story.

It would resemble Zelda only on the most shallow of levels.


And a 'silent hero' does not mean a 'mute hero'. He already has a voice, just no dialogue, and he doesn't need to be overly talkative. Despite this, his talking in the games was assumed, they just never gave him lines. Just think

"What's your name?"
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"*insert whatever name the file has been called*"


Do you truly not understand how silent heroes work? The point of them is that you're supposed to assume they do communicate with others, but because the developers do not give them specific lines, you're able to subconsciously build your own vision of their character. That would not be possible in a film, and there's no way they could create lines that matches more then few peoples' ideas of Link.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 02:14 PM

Link should be a recluse in any movie... just 'i'm here to do my job, not just for you... but because she told me to. don't talk to me while i'm trying to do my f*ckin job, and i'll just stand here and look forward and make sure you all go to bed tonight and wake up in the morning, and then i'm out"

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 02:21 PM

A Zelda game has to many events for a the games plot to be turned into movie. It would be impossible to fit an entire games plot into 2 or 3 hours and still be true to the game. However, if there was a new story it could be made short enough to fit into the right length of time.




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