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[SnowsilverKat]

I liked Majora's Mask better, although I too really liked Ocarina of Time.

It must be that I'm a stickler for character development, and Majora's Mask wins at that hands down. I mean, how can you NOT have character development when you're perpetually repeating the same days over and over again?

I can see how some people felt 'pulled away' by the adventure in Termina, then again, I kind of feel this was done on purpose. We, the players, are supposed to be in Link's boots, in a way. If we are feeling pulled away, then imagine how he is feeling. Termina is different from Hyrule. This is something that is thrown in our faces from the very beginning.

Also, Majora's Mask had the three different races you could be, which was quite a neat idea if you ask me. And it gave people who were already masters at the controls (from playing OOT) a new gameplay elements to work out.

I liked Majora's cutscenes better, as well. You can tell they gave Link a few new facial expressions (my favorite is that little sigh of relief he sometimes does), and the scenes themselves are just better constructed.

Another thing, the Expansion Pak really helped the game's graphics and engine. One thing that always kind of bugged me about OOT was the 'loading issue,' where sometimes objects wouldn't appear until you were about 3 feet in front of them. It was a bit of the pain if you were trying to look around, and kept seeing Epona appear and disappear. Majora's Mask doesn't have this problem because of the memory enhancement, allowing for many objects to be loaded at once.

I can deal without having Zelda or Ganon; Link's Awakening had a lack of these two characters, yet it too was a wonderful game.

So, yeah. Majora's Mask is better in my opinion.

[Octorok]

I thought MM was better because it had an interesting storyline and was not completely dungeon-oriented.

[Wanchimaera]

I had way too much fun with MM. The darkness about it is why I voted for it. Ocarina of Time was one of those games that I responded with, "almost there, try again". Great story, great cast of characters, no action. This thread has inspired me to go back through OoT and just see how few times I can use the sword and get away with it.

I tried this with LoZ. I beat levels 1, 2, and 3 and was able to retrieve the ladder out of level 4 without picking up the sword. I died about a million times, but it was interesting!

[Hylian Diety]

Nah, OoT all the way. Don't get me wrong, MM was great and all and I play it quite a bit, but I love OoT more. It's got a better story (in my opinion, so don't try to disprove that with "fact"), it's got better music, it was more innovative, and it had MORE dungeons. I used to think that just because MM had fewer dungeons that they'd be more complicated, but even the second time through I realized I was wrong. OoT's Temples are just as hard, and there are more of them, and length is a biggy.

MM was good, but OoT was way better.

[Hero of Slime]

I like MM because it has fewer dungeons and you can play everything over again.

[Vazor]

I like MM because it has fewer dungeons and you can play everything over again.

So, it's repetitive. How is that a postive?

OoT is the best game ever made. A shrine should be built in OoT's honor. Sacrifices to Miyamoto must be made for this wonderful gift upon gamedom.

[Husse]

Ha ha, Vazor, but MM shouldn't be belittled either. It was improved upon, but the epic-ness was gone, it was very ambiguous, the world seemed slapped together, and the whole thing seemed like a side-trail. OoT is best.

Both are masterpieces though.

[Chaltab]

Ocarina was a stellar conversion from 2D to 3D when it was released, but in retrospect it just isn't as good gameplay wise. There are so many awesome moments in Majora's Mask, too. From reuniting Kafei and Anju to the Dancing Stalfo King of Ikana, there is something memorable about every moment of Majora's Mask. Sure, there are only four dungeons, but I think I like it beter that way. Plus the ability to go back through them and re-fight every boss is unmatched.

The Graphics and Story were a huge improvement over Ocarina, and Majora's Mask has something Ocarina of TIme sorely lacks: the overworld theme. Ocarina is a great game, but it laid the foundation for the ultimate game. Majora's Mask is, IMO, the best of the 3D Zeldas, and the N64's best single game. Period.

[Wanchimaera]

Of course, my favorite, LttP, isn't in the poll. <_<

[Husse]

That's because we're focusing on the two groundbreaking 3Ds that everyone argues about all the time. Though there IS a lot to be said for WW...why doesn't anyone like that one as much? I LOVE WW, more than MM, *awaits slings and arrows* Oot, WW, MM, there's my 3D order. I loved WW because of the graphics, oddly enough, they seemed so vibrant and broad, it was hard not to like, and the vastness of the world, the whole place just felt free. And, even though timeline flunkies complain about what it did to their stupid theories, it made me really feel like the Zelda games were connected more...it makes sense to me, even if everyone else is worried about FSA and Oracles...PEOPLE! They don't BELONG in the timeline. And Ganon just really came out as a character, and good characters in Zelda get me *thumps chest* right here.

That, of course, being the only reason I liked MM. The plot was threadbare, an extreme cutaway from the Hyrule I loved, it gave me the creeps when I was 10, and the epic feel, an LOTR feel of bravery and nostalgia...was all but nonexistent. But, for MM, that was made up for in the stunning cutscenes, great characters, and the ability to turn into other creatures, a gaming plus.

Don't even get me started on OoT...I will RANT all day about it's greatness.

[Chaltab]

The very best part of Wind Waker is the very end, when Ganondorf, Zelda, and Link are all united on top of the tower. And Ganon's monologue about winds... It transformed him from just another selfish villain into a villain who had reasons for being selfish.

My country lay within a vast desert. During the day, the searing winds burned my land, and at night a cold gale pierced our homes. No matter when it came, the wind only brought one thing: Death.

But the wind that blew across the green fields of Hyrule brought something other than suffering and ruin.  

I... coveted that wind, I suppose.

And when Daphnes steals his wish, he flips out and goes medieival on Link. If I had tried to obtain something for hundreds of years and it was suddenly stolen from inches in front of my face, I'd probably be a little pyscho too.

[D~N]

Ah, ganon quotes, they are always so meaningful, except this one. *spoiler?*
"the winds......the are blowing"
-ganon's final words, WW
*^spoiler?*
Anyway, the OoT pwnz all games. Why? Think about it. The OoT is THE game of the year (1998) and is the most remade Zelda game. Think of Z'05. Who WANTS that game? all of us. What do we compare it to? OoT. Why not MM? The graphics are the same as MM, so why not MM? Because OoT is the best game of all time. It pwnz all games. Period. Why? Because it is THE zelda game. It gives that zelda feel. It is the first Zelda game to start using more 'puzeles' than 'monsters' and I love puzeles. Monsters get boring after screen, after screen, after screen.....Do a poll of people in your school/work/job-thing. Most will go "MM, what's that?" But with OoT, they'll probably be like "Oh, I know that, thats a Zelda game right?" Just ask a stranger, ang get the proof. OoT pwnz all games. Of corse, Z'05 WILL be the best game of all time, so there's no point of arguing, cause Z'05 pwnz all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111onethreeQ

[MK.]

Majora's Mask was good, but Ocarina of Time cannot be beat, Ocarina of Time was the greatest video game ever made in this history of man!

[Vazor]

THANK YOU! Welcome to my cult.

[D~N]

Yeah! you, MK, and I will be the, uhhhhh.......COOTROL (Cult Of OoT Truely Rocks Out Loud)
[ ~coo'TROLE~ ] Anyone can join, as long as you have three ferret corpses and a duck, then your IN! Oh, yeah, you also have to think OoT is the best game currently out!!!!!

[Chaltab]

We say it is "Ocarina" style because Ocarina originated the style. Major used the same style with two years and several thousand polygons of refinement.

Just like we don't say Minish Cap uses FSA style graphics; we we say FSA and Minish Cap use Wind Waker Style graphics.

(The original Four Sword came out before Wind Waker, but TWW style was announced long before FS became a reality.)

[MK.]

Yeah! you, MK, and I will be the, uhhhhh.......COOTROL (Cult Of OoT Truely Rocks Out Loud)
[ ~coo'TROLE~ ]  Anyone can join, as long as you have three ferret corpses and a duck, then your IN!  Oh, yeah, you also have to think OoT is the best game currently out!!!!!

I'll join

I've got two gold copies of OOT, that should prove my loyalty...

[D~N]

you were already in, but ok :-D!! ----- Gold? I though it only came in a grey 'thingy' with a gold label.................

[Vic Vicious]

I mean, I agree on most of the pros and cons of each game everyone's come up with.

I like OoT because of nostalgia, and because of that classic epic feel, and the size of Hyrule Field, that some have said its barren and empty, added to that feeling of being an epic adventure on a great land (that's why I love how the whole "huge overworld and the need of a horse" concept of Z'05 sounds). Then, the NPCs always on the a same spot saying the same thing over and over was boring.

I really loved MM 'cause of the weird and dark atmosphere and all that character development we didn't get on OoT, but I just didn't like the whole cramped feeling you had in Termina Field, were just a few meter away from the sand of the coast you had the snow of the mountain, and that sort of thing. Heck, if it weren't for that thingy you had to jump to get to Great Bay, you wouldn't even need a horse; at that point of the game you already have the Goron and it goes even faster than Epona.

On MM I liked too the transformations, they really added a lot for the gameplay, and I wasn't really bothered for the saving, the game would've been even shorter and far easier without it. The dungeons were much more fun than OoT's, imo, but fewer, still. Re-fighting the bosses pwned.

But I just love OoT... I can't complain about almost anything on OoT, even though I really love the MM style.

[Chaltab]

Nothing in Zelda ever compares to Dolphining with the Zora mask on under the waters of the Great Bay.

[Hana-Nezumi]

I used to like MM better, but now it has come to a tie for me. They both have their pros and cons, but in the end, the most important thing is the overall feeling of the game. Both games have their own unique feeling, and I happen to love the feeling of them both! Did that make any sense at all? This is very hard to describe in words. XD

[Husse]

YES! More for the cult! MUWAHAHAHAHA!