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#1 Hero of Slime

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 04:40 PM

Adult Timeline: (MC)-(OoT)-Flood-(WW)
Child Timeline: (MC)-(OoT-MM)-(FS-FSA)-IW-(LttP-LA)-KNS-(OoA-OoS)-SZ-(LoZ-AoL)

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 04:45 PM

I'm tired, so it looks feesible. It loses points in my book for being a KnS theory, but whatever, it works. I think.

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 04:53 PM

I finaly have a timeline that works. :)

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 04:55 PM

Yes, it's very similar to mine and Vazor's, but you've got the SZ near the end and TWW on its own. The only thing that annoys me a little bit is the MM references in TWW, which you can fanwank away and it'll still look...decent.

:) Have a nice day.

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 06:27 PM

It loses points in my book for being a KnS theory, but whatever, it works.


Randomly ignore games cos they're Japanese only. Well done there.

I don't like split timeline theories. They're annoying because it doesn't seem to make any logical sense, but I haven't ruled them out yet. The main problem is yes, the MM references in WW.

There are a few other issues with it but without you actually explaining bits of it I can't really comment.

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 06:37 PM

The main reason I like split timelines is that I don't have to explain how Hyrule is restored after WW.

The main problem is yes, the MM references in WW


MC beeing first solves some of them. The rest are pointless allusions.

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 07:53 PM

TMC desn't really solve them because Tingle was said to have helped the Hero of Time... not the Hero of... Hats. Unless you argue that the two heroes are one and the same, it doesn;t work.

And they're not pointless allusions. It's a big part of Tingle's backstory TWW. It explained why Tingle even exists in that game in the first place. Anyways, if split timelines you must, I'd go with Muhhammed theory of Termina timeline existing outside of the split.

Edit. Good timeline btw.

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 08:32 PM

TMC desn't really solve them because Tingle...


I was talking about the Postman.

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 08:52 PM

Ah yes. That explains the post man at least.

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 10:34 PM

Randomly ignore games cos they're Japanese only. Well done there.

I don't like split timeline theories. They're annoying because it doesn't seem to make any logical sense, but I haven't ruled them out yet. The main problem is yes, the MM references in WW.

There are a few other issues with it but without you actually explaining bits of it I can't really comment.

Ah, Fyxe, I have been dealing with people about this for almost a year, but they don't seem to listen...

It seems that another problem is the fact that Link is refered as a young boy in TWW, but it's a minor detail.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 04:53 AM

Well, AST is a bit iffy, but I don't rule it out altogether. But split timelines - HATE.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 06:45 AM

Adult Timeline: (MC)-(OoT)-Flood-(WW)
Child Timeline: (MC)-(OoT-MM)-(FS-FSA)-IW-(LttP-LA)-KNS-(OoA-OoS)-SZ-(LoZ-AoL)

were you said "flood" thats were TP goes

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 07:52 AM

Adult Timeline: (MC)-(OoT)-Flood-(WW)
Child Timeline: (MC)-(OoT-MM)-(FS-FSA)-IW-(LttP-LA)-KNS-(OoA-OoS)-SZ-(LoZ-AoL)


I don't like split timelines, but I suppose I can live with it...

SZ being so near the end doesn't make much sense. It's supposed to explain why all the princesses are called Zelda.

What happens to Ganon after OoT in the child timeline? And what happens to him after FSA? Is it the same one throughout?

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 11:00 AM

SZ makes even less sense if you put it near the beginning.

And it only explains why ALL later princesses were called Zelda, it doesn't mean *some* other ones weren't Zelda in the past.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 11:06 AM

SZ makes even less sense if you put it near the beginning.

And it only explains why ALL later princesses were called Zelda, it doesn't mean *some* other ones weren't Zelda in the past.


Yes, but not all save one. Are you suggesting, three Zeldas followed by the decree? To back this up, you'd need one Zelda game where Zelda has a sister not named Zelda.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 11:06 AM

Randomly ignore games cos they're Japanese only. Well done there.

I don't like split timeline theories. They're annoying because it doesn't seem to make any logical sense, but I haven't ruled them out yet. The main problem is yes, the MM references in WW.

There are a few other issues with it but without you actually explaining bits of it I can't really comment.

Just for the record, I haven't ruled out KNS. I just don't have enough story information on it, and that story provided by that guy turned out be comprised of some grade A bull mixed in with some exxagerated truths. Now for some theory dissection.

Adult Timeline: (MC)-(OoT)-Flood-(WW)
Child Timeline: (MC)-(OoT-MM)-(FS-FSA)-IW-(LttP-LA)-KNS-(OoA-OoS)-SZ-(LoZ-AoL)


Wow. It lacks more than 3 glaring problems. Nice Job. Except, as everyone said, Split Timelines are pointless. TWW's ending is something you have to deal with. We all have. And yes, Ganon poses a question. What happens to him after MM and FSA?

were you said "flood" thats were TP goes



Uh....no. TP can't happen simultaniously with the Flood, but I guess you meant like, barely before it or something. Which still doesn't work, since you didn't back up any proof to back up your claim, which is important since TP isn't actually OUT yet. And if what everyone is saying is true that TP is supposed to be the link between OOT's past and TWW, then TP can't even EXIST because of this God Damn split timeline.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 11:33 AM

Yes, but not all save one. Are you suggesting, three Zeldas followed by the decree? To back this up, you'd need one Zelda game where Zelda has a sister not named Zelda.


I'm not entirely sure what you're saying, but I'm saying that there were, I don't know, loads of princesses we don't see. The Hyrule history takes place over many centuries, correct? Meaning there's more than just the princesses we see. Far more. So, out of about... Probably well over 50 princesses, a few were named Zelda. That was until the particular SZ took place, and ALL princesses were named Zelda after that.

It's not uncommon to have royalty using the same names over the years. We've had eight kings called Henry, after all.

Just for the record, I haven't ruled out KNS. I just don't have enough story information on it, and that story provided by that guy turned out be comprised of some grade A bull mixed in with some exxagerated truths. Now for some theory dissection.


Then you obviously haven't kept up on ANY information on KnS posted on this board, because it was not bull. It was slightly elaborated at moments and he has clarified these moments, but not bull.

Do some reading of topics before you dismiss entire games.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 03:06 PM

were you said "flood" thats were TP goes

TP is not out yet so I don't include it in the timeline.

What happens to Ganon after OoT in the child timeline? And what happens to him after FSA?Is it the same one throughout?

I am not sure what happens to him after Oot. However, after FSA Ganon is sealed in the Four Sword. Then he is released sometime later. He finds the Triforce and is then sealed in the sacred realm. There is only one Ganon.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 06:00 PM

Except, of course, he was born twice.

Very clever of him but intensely confusing.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 06:18 PM

There are more than one Ganondorf, I don't find anything to prove it wrong. A Gerudo male will always continue to be born each 100 years, as there are many princesses named Zelda, why can't there be many kings of thieves named Ganondorf?

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 06:47 PM

Because it would kind of get rid of the need for him to be resurrected, and it would also lead to numerous Ganons sealed in difference places. He's pretty much immortal as he is, having more than one would drive things a little crazy.

Also, in FSA they seem a little bemused as to why this male breaks their rules and acts so ruthlessly. Obviously not every Gerudo male is a Ganon.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 07:15 PM

The Gerudo male in FSA was Ganondorf, not Ganon. I believe them to be different people.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 07:25 PM

But their goals are virtually the same, Doopliss. He could still be a reincarnation with the same memories and everything. Just a fresh new body to inhabit.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 07:47 PM

It's probable for two Gerudo kings to be looking for the same thing even if they are not the same person, after all Gerudos are greedy.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 07:51 PM

^ Prejudice! Gerudos are theives but they still have honor. They steal what they need to survive and don't kill women and children and Nabooru was especially nobel as she wanted to help her people and Link. Could a greedy person honestly become a sage? It's only Ganondorf and Twinrova that take things to far and want steal the entire world.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 07:53 PM

after all Gerudos are greedy.

I don't think they are all greedy. It is possible for the second Ganondorf to see the first Ganondorf as a hero. The second Ganondorf would then try to do the things the first Ganondorf failed to do, like take over Hyrule.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 08:02 PM

^ Prejudice! Gerudos are theives but they still have honor. They steal what they need to survive and don't kill women and children and Nabooru was especially nobel as she wanted to help her people and Link. Could a greedy person honestly become a sage? It's only Ganondorf and Twinrova that take things to far and want steal the entire world.

... some, I should have said.

I agree with you, The Zol, but Ganondorf was already an adult and he could discern, plus the Gerudos seemed to be honest people in FSA.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 08:44 PM

The Gerudo male in FSA was Ganondorf, not Ganon. I believe them to be different people.


Er. The Dekus chant Ganon. Ganondorf and Ganon in FSA are clearly the same thing.

Heck, in Wind Waker Ganon just says that Ganondorf is his full name, but people still call him Ganon.

Besides, if it's Ganondorf in FSA, then you still end up with two Ganondorfs. The Ganondorf from OoT, remember? The one who became Ganon? Ganondorf/Ganon, same thing.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 08:49 PM

The way I see it, Ganon(dorf) is always the same person, just reincarnated into different bodies. However, each reincarnation shares the personality and memories of the previous. He is not truly defeated until LoZ, and even then they say he can be revived.

Long story short:

Ganons: 1
Ganon Bodies: A bunch

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Posted 30 June 2005 - 03:57 AM

Uh....no. TP can't happen simultaniously with the Flood, but I guess you meant like, barely before it or something. Which still doesn't work, since you didn't back up any proof to back up your claim, which is important since TP isn't actually OUT yet. And if what everyone is saying is true that TP is supposed to be the link between OOT's past and TWW, then TP can't even EXIST because of this God Damn split timeline.


ok, the split timeline makes this difficult, but the way i see it is that TP will take place between OOT and TWW and explain the flooding of hyrule you see. and plus split timelines get confusing, there shouldnt be one when you consider that at the end of OOT link is set back to the past. and plus between the "alternate" OOT timelines wouldnt happen because link was in the temple of time the whole time.




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