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[Korhend]

But as you just said, if we don't kill them first, they are going to kill us. So by not killing people, by you're own admission, you're allowing America to be destroyed. Good Job Mac!

[Selena]

You mean... like the war that's already going on?

[Korhend]

So you're saying to kill innocent lives? Very smart.

No I'm just pointing out where you're logic leads.

That's exactly what the terrorists are doing now.

So you're logic is very much the same

So, why not take an offensive strategy towards them?

Thats what I just said. You said you were'nt going to let them do "that". So I'm just asking you to put your money where your mouth is, or otherwise cut out the bravado.

[Reflectionist]

Muscle E, dude, are you Jewish?

It makes you angry when people burn the Bible, when inside of its very pages it says to love your enemies? Jesus DIRECTLY spoke against the "Eye for an Eye" method. Check your faith, man.

Maybe if the U.S. Became an isolationist country, or maybe got back to the roots we had when we were made... Like, the country being founded on Christian Principles, then maybe terrorism wouldn't be such a big problem.

If terrorists took over this country, the american people would prevail

Oh, you mean like, the Bush administration? Or, what in the world are you talking about?

And, in all due respect, you're the one that wants to treat Iraqis like 1940 European Jews. How can you call this moral or tell us you stand behind the Bible with views like that?

You... sicken me.

[Korhend]

No, you don't understand me. If the terrorists took over this country, the american people will prevail.

So we don't have to kill them first. 1337.

[Alakhriveion]

You... sicken me.

WATCH IT. Stike One.

If the terrorists took over this country, the american people will prevail.

Like the VC took after the U.S. when we lost Saigon? But that's the magic of Imperialism! We can't lose as long as we don't pick on someone our own size! This war is, in that respect, totally safe.

[Reflectionist]

Sorry. But, man...

[Dryth]

They angered me when they burned the bible, and now I hate every terrorist and muslim who thinks the bible should be burned.

Then take it up with the Saudis. You don't seem to be making a notable distinction between the Saudis and all terrorists. And yes, I have no doubt that many terrorists get positive vibes out of Bible burning than not, but I'm sure they write it off as just another knock against their enemy. Something that happens, and that they can't control, but that probably serves some purpose in their conflict. Just like the US administration has with Koran abuse, and as a singular responsible entity.

Anyone suspicious of terroristic activity should be killed. Anyone supporting shall be punished. We have to stop these people at home too. Buff up homeland security.

Whoa whoa whoa.

Kill people. Based on suspicion?

On the most basic level, it's reverse onus. It's a slippery slope. You may as well be digging up the bodies of the founding fathers, turning them in their graves, urinating on them, then charging them with suspicion of terrorism. When you're willing to cast away human life on a whim you become a monster, and allowing suspicion as criteria is essentially that.

If we don't destroy most of the terrorists, then they will destroy us. AND I AIN'T GOING TO LET THAT HAPPEN!

You don't put out a fire by stomping on it. Or, alternatively, trying to light it on fire.

Most of the terrorists aren't even concerned about America beyond how America meddles in their local affairs. Which, if we're to believe Osama Bin Laden, is what set off his hatred of the US to begin with (i.e. "head of the snake").

We need to beef up the borders around Iraq, especially Syria and Iran. Those are two key spots on how terrorists are getting into the country. If we don't do that, we are fighting a never ending battle.

And we'll just ask them for their passports, which they'll all surely have as responsible, educated, first-world individuals, or simply deny them entry, since they certainly don't have relatives, associates, and whatnot, inside Iraq. And since they're "spots" it'll be easy, not difficult like protecting long strips of border. Though even if it were, look at the bang-up job at the US-Mexico border.

I'm sorry, but it's all so thumb-in-the-dike. Kill people based on suspicion, and you raise a society paranoid of the legal system that's supposed to be there to protect them; how do we define terrorism again? Simply proposing the killing of terrorists assumes that terrorism is some condition passed on directly by terrorists, like a disease, whereas Rumsfeld himself warned us so long ago that the face of terrorism is changing; it rides the media and plays upon weak hearts and minds, and it's those hearts and minds that must be targeted to cure terrorism. Even blocking borders, while certainly noble in intent and less hostile toward the innocent, is an exact parallel to a leaky dike: One assumes there are enough thumbs to fill all the holes, and even if there were, simply stopping up the leaks doesn't eliminate the water.

[Alakhriveion]

We were very clear. Nobody mean to desecrate the Qu'ran. It had urine splashed on it accidentally in the regular course of urinating on PoW's. Woah-oh.

[Korhend]

How dare you insult me. How dare you insult the jewish religion. And how dare you insult my faith. Are you calling jewish people hipicrits? I know the eye for an eye, i know about the turning the other cheek, and I surely know about my faith. Probably more than you do anyways you athiest.

Swing and a miss! Reflectionist is in a Christian Rock band. Are you interested in calling me a libertarian?

But, if mine are not right, what do you call their views over there? You call them nice? You think that it's okay to kill innocent lives in london? Maybe you think so, because you're just as crazy as them.

Ah the "I'm not as bad as Saddam Hussein/Osama Bin Laden Method". I can run up to you and punch you in the crotch and I'm not a bad guy because if thats not right, what do you call their veiws over there.

I have a question for you. Are the terrorists in iraq the same as 1940 germans? Did the germans behead people? Did the germans cut limbs off, then burn them? No

Wow, holocaust denial, all kinds of classy in this post.

I've had it with terrorism. I can't take it anymore.

What exactly, have they done to you that they haven't done to us, aside from make us loose common sense.

[Fizzbit]

I have a question for you. Are the terrorists in iraq the same as 1940 germans? Did the germans behead people? Did the germans cut limbs off, then burn them?

The NAZIS (German, yes, but not every German is/was a Nazi) burned people alive. They starved them. They gassed them in the masses. They electrocuted them. They shot them where they stood. They beat them. They hung them. They publicly humiliated them. They performed grotesque experiments on them for the "benefit" of science. All that and more. Your holocaust counter fails.

[Reflectionist]

no, muscle, we're the 1940 nazis to them.

[Black Knight]

No. I don't play games with terrorists. If the terrorists take over this country, I will fight for it back. And I'm not the only american who will fight for this country if taken over by terrorists either. There are a lot more.

Well, that's how the Iraqi people feel. Their country has been taken over, and they're fighting to get it back. I support the Iraqis in their efforts to get their land back from brutal invaders.

Anyone suspicious of terroristic activity should be killed.

That's kind of extreme. It's just as extreme as killing all the American infidels to get vengeance at Bush and his supporters.