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[Hana-Nezumi]

what the heck is this? some kind of alttp hack?

[Vazor]

I'm guessing that's the japanese version of LTTP. But, I don't speak Japanese, so I could be wrong.

[Hana-Nezumi]

i looked around and found these on a list of stellaview games:
BS Legend of Zelda 1 - Kodai no Sekiban (J)
BS Legend of Zelda 2 - Kodai no Sekiban (J)
BS Legend of Zelda 3 - Kodai no Sekiban (J)
BS Legend of Zelda 4 - Kodai no Sekiban (J)

while looking, i also found this page:
http://bszelda.zelda...ekibanpix.shtml

so from this, i can assume that this is like the bs legend of zelda, but with alttp.

[joeymartin64]

I'm guessing that's the japanese version of LTTP.  But, I don't speak Japanese, so I could be wrong.

Nope. The Japanese version of ALttP is called "Kamigami no Triforce" (Triforce of the Gods.)

Whatever this things turns out to be, I've never heard of it before.

[Vazor]

Ah, I see. THAT'S why it looked like LTTP but plainly wasn't.

[Zythe]

Is this basically LoZ but rehashed with a better story and graphics? Then again, Zelda wasn't in LoZ all that much. Can you tell us the story?

[Showsni]

Wow. Searching on the internet, here is this game's story:

Not long after the Legendary Hero had undertook his journey of enlightnement, Princess Zelda had a vision of a new threat to the land of Hyrule. The Triforce could not be used for the one to whom it was now bound was away. But at that time that a mysterious light came down from the sky. The Princess and the wise Sahasrahla went to investigate and found a youth passed out near the East Palace.  

The wise man took the youth from another world with him to his shelter, and once the latter woke, Sahasrahla explained that this was the land of Hyrule and that this world was in danger according to a prophecy of Princess Zelda. But that was not all, as her vision also had revealed that this child brought by a strange light would be the one to save the land.  

Not knowing how to return home, the youth resolved to trust this prophecy and accepted the quest of recovering a stone tablet from the East Palace. Sahasrahla gave the youth a friendly bee as protection and it was much needed as many monsters roamed the area. In this quest the youth would also find a sword and other items to get equipped with, becoming a skillful fighter along the way.  

Upon collecting the mysterious Ancient Stone Tablet, the youth was given directions by Sahasrahla to find the next, and eventually succeeded in recovering this too. It was after this that the youth met Princess Zelda. She was being chased by monsters, but for the one who recovered two Stone Tablets they were easy to dispatch. The princess expressed her thanks to her rescuer and spoke about her fears for Hyrule and her hopes, saying that she was now persuaded the youth was the Hero of Light, brought here to save Hyrule.  

After spending the night at Sahasrahla's home in Kakariko and befriending the villagers the hero resumed the search for the tablets, finding the next two. That night the youth and the wise man went to Link's house to rest and the day afterward besides journeying for two more tablets the hero was admitted in the presence of the King who commended such bravery and generousity.  

On the fourth day the Hero met with Princess Zelda again at the sanctuary. There she insisted to come along for the last part of this quest so that she could translate the Ancient Stone tablets and solve their riddle. Thus the hero protected Princess Zelda as she joined the search for the seventh Stone Tablet. Upon finding it, the hero was advised to venture into the woods and claim the Master Sword. The Legendary Blade was supposed to sleep forever, yet it stirred as the people of Hyrule once again prayed for a savior. Destiny had strayed from its path, Hyrule's fate once again linked to another world. And the sword was awakened one more time to right this wrong.  

With the Sword of Evil's Bane in hand the Hero went on to brave Death Mountain together with Princess Zelda. There they obtained the last Stone Tablets and Zelda climbed up to the left of where the Tower of Hera once stood, determined to solve their riddle. Struggling with ancient runes, she eventually did: the Tablets were powerful artifacts that could serve many purposes. The fiend Ganon had in fact bound his life force with their power and thus revived himself! Indeed the concerns of Hyrule’s people were founded: once again Ganon lurked in his tower, preparing himself to conquer the world.  

Time was quickly running out. Ganon had to be destroyed now or it would be too late. Fortunately the Ancient Stone tablets could also be used to open a gateway into what was once the Golden Land, where Ganon resided. Zelda then summoned the Silver Arrows and entrusted them to the Hero together with her knowledge of Ganon's strenghts and weaknesses. Armed with such knowledge and power, the Hero courageously entered the Sealed World. The barrier of ganon's Tower was easily pierced by the Master Sword and soon nothing stood between the two enemies. Ganon jeered and swore to take the Tablets for himself but the Hero of Light after an hardous battle managed to slay the Evil King.  

Upon returning, the Hero received the heartfelt thanks of Princess Zelda and Sahasrahla. The three then made their way to the Master Sword's resting place. There, as soon as the sword was returned to its pedestal and the hero's destiny fulfilled, the latter was again enveloped in light and in a flash was returned home.  

This is pretty major - an official Nintendo Zelda, practically unknown, explicitly stating that LA follows aLttP, and that whilst Link was away Ganon was revived and the Master Sword re awakened despite the quote at the end of aLttP!
Is this canon??

[Zythe]

Unfortunately, it is. Eeep. Navi is a friendly bee? Oh, and this hero is the "Hero of Light".

[Showsni]

Well, the friendly bee is just one of the normal friendly bees from aLttP, but it follows you from screen to screen. It disappears after it's stung a certain amount of enemies.

But if this game is canon, then it proves that the Master Sword sleeps forever line is wrong. My timeline works!

[Zythe]

Bah! It doesn't un-work my timeline, so meh!

[Showsni]

I think the site says this is the hero in BS Zelda as well (the Legend of Zelda one). It doesn't seem to go through the story for that game, though.

[Hana-Nezumi]

so it was realeased for the stellaview... that would mean that the whole game was broadcasted, unlike bs zelda 1. i am assuming sheikav's friend is playing the rom, since the second shot says "auto frame skip", you cannot see the walls in the fourth shot, and to have the game you would have to have the very rare stellaview system and had downloaded the whole game.

[Fatgoron]

I think we need a big question mark over this game's canon status, since it has never been translated into any language besides japanese to my knowledge, nor released outside of japan.
If Miyamoto san said it was canon then I'd accept it, however it does just seem like a spin-off to me. (I wonder if it will ever get a re-release?)

[Zythe]

Right here on Khuffie/davogones's own server: http://bszelda.zelda...net/right.shtml.

[Hana-Nezumi]

oh yeah, i saw that page while i was looking around, but i didn't notice it was hosted by zeldalegends! and fatgoron, i was hoping for a rerelease as well, but i don't think its going to happen. maybe we should petition!

[Zythe]

I want to know where I can get a copy of LOZ: Ancient Stone Tablets. I know ROM discussion is forbidden, so any PMing would be appreciated.

ETA: What's this about?

In other news, the Subrosians are now among the races in the story section.

[Showsni]

So, did you actually have a time limit of only an hour to play the game, once a week, as it was broadcast?

[Zythe]

Sheikav, this is it:

Time was quickly running out. Ganon had to be destroyed now or it would be too late. Fortunately the Ancient Stone tablets could also be used to open a gateway into what was once the Golden Land, where Ganon resided. Zelda then summoned the Silver Arrows and entrusted them to the Hero together with her knowledge of Ganon's strenghts and weaknesses. Armed with such knowledge and power, the Hero courageously entered the Sealed World. The barrier of ganon's Tower was easily pierced by the Master Sword and soon nothing stood between the two enemies. Ganon jeered and swore to take the Tablets for himself but the Hero of Light after an hardous battle managed to slay the Evil King.

Upon returning, the Hero received the heartfelt thanks of Princess Zelda and Sahasrahla. The three then made their way to the Master Sword's resting place. There, as soon as the sword was returned to its pedestal and the hero's destiny fulfilled, the latter was again enveloped in light and in a flash was returned home.

.

[Zythe]

the [Hero]was again enveloped in light and in a flash was returned home.

Or off to partake in SCII?

ETA: The hero isn't Link, and the site where you download them from is very confusing indeed...

[mohammedali]

DAMN!!!!! So is this canon? If so, then it is a pretty big thing, (and to think it all came from someone casually trying to work out the ending). Thanks Sheikav for bringing this to light, and thanks Showsni for filling us all in on the story. Does anyone know if Miyamoto-san accepts this as canon, because he might deny it completely. Any more information on the game would be much appreciated.

Mohammed Ali

[Zythe]

Well, I want to download the game from www.bszelda.zeldalegends.net but I'm a little confused. Apparently, to have a ROM for this game is completely legal, so we can talk away... I'm not sure how to operate these programs and they don't work properly. Can someone please tell me how?

[Hero of Winds]

Read rule 15, Zythe. No ROM discussion whatsoever. It wouldn't matter anyways, unless you were able to read Japanese.

Anyways, this is far more interesting than I ever gave the BS Zelda games credit for! Does anybody know who made this game, and if they worked with EAD (similar to how Flagship worked with EAD for the Capcom Zeldas)?

If the makers of this game worked with Zelda in the same way Capcom did, then this would definitely be considered canon.

[Zythe]

Read rule 15, Zythe. No ROM discussion whatsoever. It wouldn't matter anyways, unless you were able to read Japanese.

I thought that since it was owned by the zeldalegends' server, it belonged to Khuffie, and thus if he thought it was OK to download because it was perfectly legal. Sorry if I'm breaking the rules.

[davogones]

I've been in touch with Duke Serkol (who runs http://bszelda.zeldalegends.net) for a while. He has somebody working on an English translation for Ancient Stone Tablets, and a rom patch is also planned. Duke and I are also going to put our heads together some time and get a BS Zelda FAQ written. Ancient Stone Tablets looks like it might be canon, but we're not sure how seriously it should be taken.

And to clarify, I don't believe anyone ever claimed that downloading the ROM was legal. However, I do condone it in this case since the game was only released in Japan and is impossible to obtain otherwise, since it was only released for a couple weeks on the Satelleview.

[Crazy Penguin]

What's the deal with the Subrosians? Any screenshots?

[joeymartin64]

Just to throw my 2 cents into this...

If this was a spin-off game, not featuring Link, only released in one country for a practically devoid system, I don't see how it can be considered canon material. It would be comparable to using Kingdom Hearts as canon for the Final Fantasy series. Spin-off. Based on something, yet not affecting that something.

But I could be wrong.

[Crazy Penguin]

That big storyline summary from above, where is it from? Is any of it fanfiction? How much is actually officially stated?