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[Hero of Slime]

I'm arrogant or he's arrogant?

[Zythe]

If Dragon Roost is Death Mountain why is it not called Death Mountain?
Spectacle Rock becomes as Spectacle Island, probably because the creators of the game intended for them to be the same place, and for that reason gave them the same name. Why should Dragon Roost Island be any different. Also, if Valoo is Volvagia, wouldn't he himself, and therefore the rito as well, call it Death Mountain?

You are a twat. Mountains are a range. In OoT, you can access Death Mountain from the Lost Woods, which suggests the mountains surround Hyrule. A volcano alone surrounded by mountains can't be its own mountain.

Look.

Mount Crenel+Veil Falls=Death Mountain=Dragon Roost

Also, Death Mountain could quite possible run across a Pangea of sorts, as it appears in Labrynna and Holodrum and New Hyrule too.

*hits Zol*

[Husse]

Aw, let's not be abusive!

And, in all honesty, I think the Forbidden Woods was a new home of the Kokiri, or possibly the lofty Lost Woods or Forest Haven converted to a more homey atmosphere after the flood. It couldn't be Kokiri Forest itself, Kokiri Forest is a lowland, under the sea with Hyrule itself.

And there's another thing. Look at the correlating maps of Hyrule. Just map-wise, the Kokiri Forest should be located right under Outset Isalnd, not Forest Haven. Well, unless the entrance curves around to the east more, which is quite plausible. My guess is, that the Lost Woods, which are fairly high up, were converted to a Kokiri homeland directly after the flood, and the wooded highlands on Outset are home to the Forest Haven. (Remember the Fairy Fountsin?)

Just a hypothese.

But you have to be REALLY stupid not to notice the relation between Dragon Roost and Death Mountain.

Which brings a question: What's Greatfish Isle? I mean, other than a really boring wreckage that could've been SO fun to explore if they let you...(must not rant...)

[Zythe]

Isn't GFI just little things of Lake Hylia having floated up to the surface?

[Hana-Nezumi]

i think that some of the islands could be floating. i mean, do you see big mountains just sticking up in the middle of hyrule? its also possible that the great sea is over a mountain range.

[Husse]

No, it's directly over Hyrule too, so we have to take that geography into account....I guess things could magically float, but that's not the impression that I got. I kinda felt that all of old Hyrule, save its peaks, is sunk.

[Hero of Slime]

Yeah, Hyrule's mountains are the only remaining parts of it, it says so in the legend of the Hero of Time. But I don't think that GFI is supposed to be all the Islands within Lake Hylia, after all it used to be one big island and before that it was a mountain.

[Zythe]

Some of the islands have to be floating like icebergs. Usually of some significance, ie. home of Jabun, Great Fairy, 'Triumph Fork' piece etc.

[Hero of Slime]

I don't know... In the time that TWW takes place, isn't it possible that a new mountains could have formed? Also some of the islands are seemingly artificial such as Islet of Steel and Angular Isles, so isn't it possible that some of the islands aren't floating, but aren't natural mountains either?

[Hana-Nezumi]

which brings up the point, exactly how deep did hyrule sink?

[Hylian Diety]

which brings up the point, exactly how deep did hyrule sink?

Well, technically it didn't sink...it was flooded. So if Dragon Roost IS part of Death Mountain, it probably floated up magically (which is kind of a lame excuse, but considering how the ocean is liquid-time, magic floating isn't so bogus) with the water along with the major important areas of Zelda.

Thing is...it doesn't make sense to magically preserve the most important places of Hyrule when you're intentionally trying to flood it so evil doesn't reach it, now does it? Chances are Dragon Roost and Great Fish Isle are brand new (well, new comparatively that is).

Which brings us to another possibility...maybe the ring around the mountains that we've come to recognize is a symbol or sign of something? Maybe an enchantment? Or maybe something else, but it's a possibility...something to symbolize significance.

[Octorok]

I don't think that Dragon Roost Island and Death Mountain are related in any way, aside from the fact that they are volcanoes. Also, if they were the same place then why would the gorons ever have left? Obviously they are still in existence somewhere other than the three places that they are found in in TWW, so why wouldn't that place be Death Mountain? My theory is that the area in which TWW occurs (above the water) is not directly over Hyrule, and the only reason that it seems to be is that when Link travels to Hyrule he moves downward. I think that he isn't just moving downward, but traveling through a portal to a place on a different area of the ocean floor.

[Zythe]

That's a load of crap.

Dragonroost is at the tip of Death Mountain, so are all the islands in its vicinity. You even see the mountain tops go through the surface of the water when you're in Hyrule. What more proof do you guys need?

Someone check in Zol and Octorok are the same person, please.

[Hylian Diety]

You even see the mountain tops go through the surface of the water when you're in Hyrule. What more proof do you guys need?

Hm. That could indeed mean a thing or two. I don't remember that, but you might be right. If so, then perhaps they really are the tips of the mountains. *shrugs* It's definitely a possibility. And considering that the story says the important people were guided to the mountain tops for safety in the flood, that would maybe mean that the flood wasn't THAT high. Well, high enough to flood most of the mountain range, but not as much as I always believed.

[Octorok]

That's a load of crap.

Dragonroost is at the tip of Death Mountain, so are all the islands in its vicinity. You even see the mountain tops go through the surface of the water when you're in Hyrule. What more proof do you guys need?

Someone check in Zol and Octorok are the same person, please.

Fine I'm wrong. It was just a theory, no need to go crazy over it.

As for the zol, I have no clue who he really is. We just agree on this one subject.

[Hero of Slime]

Someone check in Zol and Octorok are the same person, please.

Why do you say me and octorok are the same person.

[Octorok]

He does it because he has nothing better to do all day then make up stupid conspiracy theories, involving people that disagree with his theories about video game geography

[Hylian Diety]

He does it because he has nothing better to do all day then make up stupid conspiracy theories, involving people that disagree with his theories about video game geography.

Stop the hating...now. This is about Zelda, not which members you like more, and which ones you don't like because they don't like you. This is a good thread and don't let it be closed to petty finger pointing with even pettier insults. Now, back to our regularly scheduled program.

As for the Death Mountain/Dragon Roost thing, it's still a possibility. I don't know if I necessarily agree with it, but it's possible. It WOULD help the idea that Valoo and Volvagia are of the same species or at least that they're both dragons of some sort or another (duh!). As for GFI being anything significant; doubtful. In none of the games is Zora's Domain (or the water-affiliated area) in the same area of GFI, at least not off the top of my head...

...Although...just typing this has spawned a couple of ideas. I need to get playing the games to check though. This could be interesting...

[Octorok]

I'm 100% sure that GFI is nothing worth discussing, just something put in the game to show Ganondorf's power. As for the Death Mountain thing, possible but doubtful. I stick with my argument that if Dragon Roost Island was Death Mountain, they would call it that. In addition to this though, there is no evidence of goron life on Dragon Roost. If they really lived there, one would think that there would be some left overs from their kingdom. You could say that the cave that the rito live in is Goron City, but there is no evidence to back this up, other than saying that they are both caves, which is a lame argument anyway.

[coinilius]

There ARE leftovers of the Gorons in Dragon Roost Cavern, though - there's some Goron statues that you need to push to get into it, complete with Goron symbol on them, I believe. I don't have my GameCube at the moment, so I can't check, but I'm pretty sure they are there.

[Octorok]

There ARE leftovers of the Gorons in Dragon Roost Cavern, though - there's some Goron statues that you need to push to get into it, complete with Goron symbol on them, I believe.  I don't have my GameCube at the moment, so I can't check, but I'm pretty sure they are there.

I just checked and there aren't any. At least none that I can find.

[coinilius]

I'm not 100% sure, that's why I said that I wasn't entirely sure

But what I'm thinking of is the very first room of Dragon Roost Cavern, where there are three statues that you have to pull out, push around a bit to make an opening so that you can enter the dungeon proper. My memory might just be playing tricks on me, but I'm pretty sure they are Goron looking statues. I might be getting confused and be thinking of something else though.

[Zythe]

I'll look around later. By the bit where you push the block?

[coinilius]

Uhm, I guess so Zythe... it's as soon as you enter Dragon Rost Cavern, there are three statues next to each other that block a passageway that leads into Dragon Roost Cavern proper... come to think of it, Dragon Rost Cavern may not actually start until after you go through that passageway (is the room with the two Bokoblins and the pot the first room in Dragon Roost Cavern? I can't remember at the moment).

[Kairu Hakubi]

i remember those statues. they didnt look particularly goronish but it'd be easy to go look at them. anyway you can't miss em entering the cavern.

[Hylian Diety]

Okay, I'm playing WW and I'm in Old Hyrule looking at the mountains....there aren't ANY sticking up above the water. This may not mean much because I'm still working on something, but just for evidence's not, there mountains are all under the water. Look for yourselves if you don't believe me.

[Zythe]

So the Islands are on the surface?