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[MikePetersSucks]

stupid theory= One Triforce peice
Saving the world= One Link and two Zelda's.
laughing at the stupidest peice of bullshit you've ever seen?= priceless

[Zythe]

An attempt at a Mastercard ad, MikePetersSucks?

[SteveT]

More of an attempt to not recognize genious when he sees it.

[Alakhriveion]

Yes. This is atually one of the more logical theories I've heard, and certainly the best written. Who could have guessed Tingle is really Link?

[davogones]

Wow guys, great theory. It makes perfect sense and explains everything.

Not.

[SteveT]

You're just jealous

[MikePetersSucks]

your just stupid. The One Link theory doesn't work, simply because of hair color and face structure throughout the games. Plus all the sources say that the Link of TWW has no connections, whatsoever, to the Hero of Time. I also bet that near the end of the game, Grandma and Uncle would be like "Link, you're adopted." If they did it with the Kokiri, they could do it with these other guys. Plus, Link can't be his own father even if he did cause a time paradox because of genetics. It would have to mean that Zelda didn't contribute a single chromosome, which is impossible because Link would have to develop in her womb and temporarily share her immune system, blood, and food and whatnot. and HTF would Link physically mutate into Tingle from insanity alone? Plus, Y'know, after awhile, someone would notice time is literally repeating itself and probably do something about it, or Ganondorf at the very least would change tactics. You have a point that theories are basically fanfiction, but this is way overboard. Not to mention that there's no point in even saving Hyrule if it's just going to repeat the same thing over and over. It's just stupid. This would be a thrilling fanfiction to read, I'll admit that, but as a Zelda timeline theory, well...you might as well form a church on the Word of Luigi 64. Not to mention that the Zelda sleeping backwards things is totally and absolutely FUCKED UP! You can't even explain it in any other way except "magic" which is simply a copout to get out of a plothole in your own theory. Jesus, if you have a loophole that bad, you shouldn't even bother with the theory.

[SteveT]

lollerscates and roflcopters

[Hero of Winds]

your just stupid. The One Link theory doesn't work, simply because of hair color and face structure throughout the games. Plus all the sources say that the Link of TWW has no connections, whatsoever, to the Hero of Time. I also bet that near the end of the game, Grandma and Uncle would be like "Link, you're adopted." If they did it with the Kokiri, they could do it with these other guys. Plus, Link can't be his own father even if he did cause a time paradox because of genetics. It would have to mean that Zelda didn't contribute a single chromosome, which is impossible because Link would have to develop in her womb and temporarily share her immune system, blood, and food and whatnot. and HTF would Link physically mutate into Tingle from insanity alone? Plus, Y'know, after awhile, someone would notice time is literally repeating itself and probably do something about it, or Ganondorf at the very least would change tactics. You have a point that theories are basically fanfiction, but this is way overboard. Not to mention that there's no point in even saving Hyrule if it's just going to repeat the same thing over and over. It's just stupid. This would be a thrilling fanfiction to read, I'll admit that, but as a Zelda timeline theory, well...you might as well form a church on the Word of Luigi 64. Not to mention that the Zelda sleeping backwards things is totally and absolutely FUCKED UP! You can't even explain it in any other way except "magic" which is simply a copout to get out of a plothole in your own theory. Jesus, if you have a loophole that bad, you shouldn't even bother with the theory.

But... it's magic.

[SteveT]

And it turns out a lot of things happen by magic in the Zelda series

Y'know, after awhile, someone would notice time is literally repeating itself and probably do something about it, or Ganondorf at the very least would change tactics.

The only person who notices in Link. The other ones are too busy dying and being reborn.

[Vazor]

So while this theory is utterly baseless and obsurd, there's no way to prove it wrong, technically.

[Zythe]

MPS, it's not serious. It's a joke.

[Masamune]

Don't tell him that! It's too amusing!

[Alakhriveion]

So while this theory is utterly baseless and obsurd, there's no way to prove it wrong, technically.

I think that makes it "right." God damn.

[Showsni]

Well, it beats my theory hollow...

[SOAP]

LoL-ness. That theory almost makes me forget how ornery Zelda theoring makes me sometimes...

[MikePetersSucks]

*is joking too; playing the role of the overserious theory nazi* Still though, the Book of Mundora is is a record of all these events, right? well eventually wouldn't people realize it's repeating itself every 50 or so chapters? and the magic thing is technically a copout, because it doesn't explain anything how can something sleep backwards in time, especially is a basically circular timeline?

[Hana-Nezumi]

you might as well form a church on the Word of Luigi 64.

its true! luigi is in mario 64! i can prooove it!

lol

[Masamune]

*is joking too; playing the role of the overserious theory nazi* Still though, the Book of Mundora is is a record of all these events, right? well eventually wouldn't people realize it's repeating itself every 50 or so chapters? and the magic thing is technically a copout, because it doesn't explain anything how can something sleep backwards in time, especially is a basically circular timeline?

There's no 'real' way of knowing things are in a loop unless you're alive for the whole thing. Ganon doesn't live through it all. Link does (by time travelling) and almost maeks a full two rounds. But he becomes Tingle and little dudes in green have a habit of being ignored.

As for the Book of Mudora (and historical documents), a loop wouldn't be much of a loop were it accumulative (unless it was programming). Historical documents and stuff gets detroyed and lost... and recreated. Besides, given that it is a loop, if someone was to discover what was going on, it would have been part of the loop. But were that the case, then the loop would have never got a chance to start. Sort of a parodox, eh?

Only an outsider would really be able to fix the whole thing.

[SteveT]

*is joking too; playing the role of the overserious theory nazi* Still though, the Book of Mundora is is a record of all these events, right? well eventually wouldn't people realize it's repeating itself every 50 or so chapters?

As you can see from the games, Hyrule peaked around the time of Link to the Past. As you can also see from the games, by the era of LoZ and AoL, Hyrule had fallen into ruin and was little more than a collection of small villages. Most of the history and legends had been lost, likely by the repeated ravaging at the hands of Ganon. So no, people wouldn't realize that they were in the time loop. If they did, that would cause a massive paradox, which clearly has NOT happened. Where in the games does someone say "OMFG I just realized we're in a timeloop!"?

and the magic thing is technically a copout, because it doesn't explain anything  how can something sleep backwards in time, especially is a basically circular timeline?

Let me ask you some questions, Mr. Magic is a Cop-Out:

What makes the Master Sword so special that it can kill evil? How does the Mirror of Darkness make Shadow Links? How did Twinrova mentally dominate Nabooru? How was Twinrova planning to raise Ganon? How does the Triforce work? How does Ganon make those little energy balls? How does the hookshot work? I could go on and on forever.

The only reason she can sleep backwards in time is because time is a triangle.

[Eric]

This was already noted before, but that means that time repeats itself. This should've been obvious with the Triforce, but this theory is already smashed (or built even more), simply because of the upcoming Zelda game that's in development. Not gonna make any passes at a name for it, to avoid a Gannon-Ban.

I'd say this is a pretty accurate timeline, joke or not. It makes [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img] more sense to me than the stuff that gets spewed out by people that think they know Zelda, unfortunately.

Or, well, atleast, no-one's made a pass at it that sounds nearly as good as this one is.

It makes [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img] more sense than making the timeline to coincide with the release of the games (I.E., Legend of Zelda, Link's Quest, Link's Awakening, etc. etc.).

[SteveT]

Wow. I love you guys. That is the single greatest thing to ever appear in Zelda Storyline. Ever.

You are too kind. And thank you to Eric as well.

[Zythe]

How long did it take you to come up with it?

[MikePetersSucks]

As you can see from the games, Hyrule peaked around the time of Link to the Past. As you can also see from the games, by the era of LoZ and AoL, Hyrule had fallen into ruin and was little more than a collection of small villages. Most of the history and legends had been lost, likely by the repeated ravaging at the hands of Ganon. So no, people wouldn't realize that they were in the time loop. If they did, that would cause a massive paradox, which clearly has NOT happened. Where in the games does someone say "OMFG I just realized we're in a timeloop!"?

Well, if the Sages are awakened with new memories to aid the hero, wouldn't they be given some kind of divine knowledge to aid him? And then there's the Essence of the Triforce. In LTTP, wouldn't it tell Link SOMETHING about it? or even hint at it as a warning? and if he was an amnesiac, I'd believe he'd wish for his MEMORY, which he doesn't do, which means he's NOT an amnesiac.

What makes the Master Sword so special that it can kill evil? How does the Mirror of Darkness make Shadow Links? How did Twinrova mentally dominate Nabooru? How was Twinrova planning to raise Ganon? How does the Triforce work? How does Ganon make those little energy balls? How does the hookshot work? I could go on and on forever.

I never meant that ALL magic is a copout, but for something I can't even mentally imagine, simplu "it's magic" doesn't cut it. Especially when the magic in question was caused by some evil sorceror. I doubt he has power over time. Hell, why does she need to sleep backwards in time at all? what purpose does it serve? as for the other things....

Master Sword was made by the Sages, who were granted the power of Evil's Bane by the Goddesses or some Oracle. The Dark Mirror was created with that power. dur. Twinrova is a 900 year old witch. I'm sure mind control is an easy thing for her to do. The Triforce is a divine relic. It's so powerful that it can't be fully described with the full scope of human consciousness. Ganon has the Triforce of Power. the hookshot is a MACHINE -.-

Also, I meant Luigi 64 as in, Mike Peters' alterego from hell >.>;

[SteveT]

Well, if the Sages are awakened with new memories to aid the hero, wouldn't they be given some kind of divine knowledge to aid him?

Why would they even HAVE special knowledge? They're part of the Triforce of Time, too.

And then there's the Essence of the Triforce. In LTTP, wouldn't it tell Link SOMETHING about it? or even hint at it as a warning? and if he was an amnesiac, I'd believe he'd wish for his MEMORY, which he doesn't do, which means he's NOT an amnesiac.

He didn't ask to be made an adult, either. Does that make him not a child? He didn't ask for food, does that mean he wasn't hungry at the time?

No, it just means he wasn't a self serving wish-hogger.

Master Sword was made by the Sages, who were granted the power of Evil's Bane by the Goddesses or some Oracle. The Dark Mirror was created with that power. dur. Twinrova is a 900 year old witch. I'm sure mind control is an easy thing for her to do. The Triforce is a divine relic. It's so powerful that it can't be fully described with the full scope of human consciousness. Ganon has the Triforce of Power. the hookshot is a MACHINE -.-

Ok...let me rephrase the question. By what mechanism do all those things work. (And I'm not convinced the Hookshot is a machine. It seems very odd that it's the only complex piece of technology (beyond our own level, even) in Hyrule. It's completely hypocritical and, more importantly, illogical, to accept magic as an explanation for a witch casting spells, but not a wizard. Hyrule is strongly tied to magic, and by definition, magic can do a lot of wierd stuff.

Especially when the magic in question was caused by some evil sorceror. I doubt he has power over time. Hell, why does she need to sleep backwards in time at all? what purpose does it serve? as for the other things....

What purpose does it serve? He never has to even think about her again. Or before. It's all the fun of putting your sister to eternal sleep without the guilt.

[Vazor]

By "sleeping backwards" do you mean that she just slept throughout the next loop of the ToT, only to be awakened and become her husband's mother? (And then for her child self to be born to the king at about the same time)

[MikePetersSucks]

Why would they even HAVE special knowledge? They're part of the Triforce of Time, too.

They have special knowledge about everything else. Why not this? They're supposed to help the Hero of Time in whatever way they can.

He didn't ask to be made an adult, either. Does that make him not a child? He didn't ask for food, does that mean he wasn't hungry at the time?

No, it just means he wasn't a self serving wish-hogger.

Good point, but why on earth would he NOT want to recover his memories? food and age are one thing, but that's his one oppurtunity to regain himself. I'm sure he'd of taken it.

It's completely hypocritical and, more importantly, illogical, to accept magic as an explanation for a witch casting spells, but not a wizard. Hyrule is strongly tied to magic, and by definition, magic can do a lot of wierd stuff.

That wasn't my point whatsoever. Like, if the Sleeping Zelda is trapped outside of time, how can she be a legend passed down through the Impa family?

What purpose does it serve? He never has to even think about her again. Or before. It's all the fun of putting your sister to eternal sleep without the guilt.

If he has such power, why not banish her to some other land outside of time, so that you don't run the risk of having her awakened and causing a huge time paradox?