But I agree that Pokemon is good after a long day of school. Pure ridiculous eye candy.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 08:58 PM
Okay, almighty DJ, I shall be wiser in the near future.
But I agree that Pokemon is good after a long day of school. Pure ridiculous eye candy.
But I agree that Pokemon is good after a long day of school. Pure ridiculous eye candy.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 04:28 AM
Thank you DJ, well met.
as to husse:
"most anime has never been very deep". interesting statement. i shall now inform you that im a college junior residing in japan for a year of study at Waseda U. I have taken a class on anime. i have studied the rich and lengthy history of anime and manga (manga places its origins in the the 800s with the works of Toba.) You are excused however, since you are young and don't have the resources available to you that i do. there is a large number of anime which are deep. and more often than not they cease to be "cheesy" when you understand the culture behind them.
as to the anime i have named, you dont even know what they are, which indicates to me that you havent even begun to study or even watch anime. Ghost in the Shell is actually a classic science fiction and the more recent anime film is a recognized artistic work. jinroh is by the same director, and explores the fragility of humanity. now, i will give you that an artistic work does not need sex and/or violence to make it deep. thats a given. and the presence of either does not make something artistic or deep. but that same presence does not immediately mean a work is not artistic. and i will thank you to realize that while violence is not your cup of tea, that doesnt automatically make all artistic usages of it "vulgar". and if Cowboy Bebop is vulgar to you, than you are either young (and that is perfectly alright) or a prude beyond even my level (which is fine as long as you accept that others do not have to adhere to your standards).
and i never did say you couldnt enjoy digimon and the like. merely that you shouldnt try to pretend that they are more than what they are: pure entertainment. oh, and so DJ knows as well, merchandizing doesnt really devaluate artistic works in japan. what we could call "selling out" is perfectly normal here. but the rule of thumb that "if it started as merchandise, its pure entertainment" still holds true.
gee, i made a long post. oh well, im really quite sick of the otaku and fetishy americans im stuck with here in japan, so i do apologize that you must bear the brunt of it.
as to husse:
"most anime has never been very deep". interesting statement. i shall now inform you that im a college junior residing in japan for a year of study at Waseda U. I have taken a class on anime. i have studied the rich and lengthy history of anime and manga (manga places its origins in the the 800s with the works of Toba.) You are excused however, since you are young and don't have the resources available to you that i do. there is a large number of anime which are deep. and more often than not they cease to be "cheesy" when you understand the culture behind them.
as to the anime i have named, you dont even know what they are, which indicates to me that you havent even begun to study or even watch anime. Ghost in the Shell is actually a classic science fiction and the more recent anime film is a recognized artistic work. jinroh is by the same director, and explores the fragility of humanity. now, i will give you that an artistic work does not need sex and/or violence to make it deep. thats a given. and the presence of either does not make something artistic or deep. but that same presence does not immediately mean a work is not artistic. and i will thank you to realize that while violence is not your cup of tea, that doesnt automatically make all artistic usages of it "vulgar". and if Cowboy Bebop is vulgar to you, than you are either young (and that is perfectly alright) or a prude beyond even my level (which is fine as long as you accept that others do not have to adhere to your standards).
and i never did say you couldnt enjoy digimon and the like. merely that you shouldnt try to pretend that they are more than what they are: pure entertainment. oh, and so DJ knows as well, merchandizing doesnt really devaluate artistic works in japan. what we could call "selling out" is perfectly normal here. but the rule of thumb that "if it started as merchandise, its pure entertainment" still holds true.
gee, i made a long post. oh well, im really quite sick of the otaku and fetishy americans im stuck with here in japan, so i do apologize that you must bear the brunt of it.
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Posted 14 February 2005 - 12:11 AM
sorry, -any- time you -ever- say an anime exists purely to sell stuff, you're wrong. it's ignorant and.. if nothing else it just isn't cost-effective. hanna-barbera stuff could be, easily.. being so low-budget.. but i haven't seen an anime since the 70s that wasn't extremely high-quality and 50-eps-a-year.
besides that, stuff like pokemon and digimon were funded BY sales of the things that existed BEFORE the anime.. in the case of digimon, a long time before... and in the case of pokemon, by nintendo's mighty big wallet powers. art is art, and if it's profitable that's probably just to cover its ass and keep it on the air.. otherwise it's someone trying to tell a story.
besides that, stuff like pokemon and digimon were funded BY sales of the things that existed BEFORE the anime.. in the case of digimon, a long time before... and in the case of pokemon, by nintendo's mighty big wallet powers. art is art, and if it's profitable that's probably just to cover its ass and keep it on the air.. otherwise it's someone trying to tell a story.
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Posted 14 February 2005 - 12:40 AM
-points to current Transformers series-
Funded by Hasbro and Takara to advertise the Armada/Energon and now Cybertron toys. It tells a story, but it's painfully obvious it's only a second thought - the entire final arc of Energon is nothing but an excuse to show off fancy repaints and the three gestahlts. As I said, yes, of course, the writers will try as much as they can to form a story out of what they're given - the bit about Alpha Q and Skorponok was a nice touch, for one - but in the end, it's one long 22 minute commercial. Hell, the transformation/powerlinxing scenes blatently scream "Hey kids, look what we can do!!!" I daresay that the original series did a better job of hiding the fact that it was an ad then the current ones. Cartoons are the ultimate advertisements, because if it clicks with kiddies, you can bet the toys will be selling. Cost effective or not, it's what companies do - they gamble, since it's all they can do. The bigger gambles tend to be reserved for desperation, or for bigger companies who already have other successful franchises. Pokemon is an example - yeah, of course the game came out first, abotu a year or so. Nintendo saw how well it did and made the show to show the game's world off to other people, who then decided to go for the game. More sales. More money to put back into Nintendo's bank account, plus a few pennies to pour into the stuffed animals, cards...everything. There's nothing wrong with this, and hell, as I said, I like Pokemon quite a bit.
And yeah Burgy, I suppose that's true. I'm just too used to the less...friendly version of seling out that I've come to know here.
Funded by Hasbro and Takara to advertise the Armada/Energon and now Cybertron toys. It tells a story, but it's painfully obvious it's only a second thought - the entire final arc of Energon is nothing but an excuse to show off fancy repaints and the three gestahlts. As I said, yes, of course, the writers will try as much as they can to form a story out of what they're given - the bit about Alpha Q and Skorponok was a nice touch, for one - but in the end, it's one long 22 minute commercial. Hell, the transformation/powerlinxing scenes blatently scream "Hey kids, look what we can do!!!" I daresay that the original series did a better job of hiding the fact that it was an ad then the current ones. Cartoons are the ultimate advertisements, because if it clicks with kiddies, you can bet the toys will be selling. Cost effective or not, it's what companies do - they gamble, since it's all they can do. The bigger gambles tend to be reserved for desperation, or for bigger companies who already have other successful franchises. Pokemon is an example - yeah, of course the game came out first, abotu a year or so. Nintendo saw how well it did and made the show to show the game's world off to other people, who then decided to go for the game. More sales. More money to put back into Nintendo's bank account, plus a few pennies to pour into the stuffed animals, cards...everything. There's nothing wrong with this, and hell, as I said, I like Pokemon quite a bit.
And yeah Burgy, I suppose that's true. I'm just too used to the less...friendly version of seling out that I've come to know here.
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Posted 14 February 2005 - 07:29 AM
Kairu: so idealistic. but not entirely true. ive heard it from the horse's mouth. ive *met* the creator of pokemon. a *very* rough translation of his explanation behind pokemon "i wanted to make something that would sell, and hopefully everywhere in the world because i could see the beginning of a world market. universal themes sell. the relation between animal and owner is very universal, and after that it wasnt very hard to make pokemon." as to digimon, thats also just selling stuff, though i only got to watch an industry-only video about it, not meet the maker.
as a general rule, the more episodes and seasons, the less artistic the anime, the more about sales it is. and yes, i do include inuyasha. damn is that a low-risk company. it dropped from the number 1 ratings slot so they cancelled it O.o;;; they dont make any anime that dont last over a 100 episodes.
DJ: dont feel bad. it takes living in japan to really get that selling-out is a-ok in japan.
as a general rule, the more episodes and seasons, the less artistic the anime, the more about sales it is. and yes, i do include inuyasha. damn is that a low-risk company. it dropped from the number 1 ratings slot so they cancelled it O.o;;; they dont make any anime that dont last over a 100 episodes.
DJ: dont feel bad. it takes living in japan to really get that selling-out is a-ok in japan.
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Posted 14 February 2005 - 10:47 AM
idealism is always true. it has reality-warping powers. everyone knows that. 
besides, if something 'sells' that can just mean that it clicks with everyone.. you know?
anyway, it's not like there's even that much digimon merchandise.. i never saw anything for tamers or frontier, and the anime never had anything to do with the digipets.. tamers kinda.. hinted at it a little.. but that's it.
just because you're right doesnt mean i'm not righter.
besides, if something 'sells' that can just mean that it clicks with everyone.. you know?
anyway, it's not like there's even that much digimon merchandise.. i never saw anything for tamers or frontier, and the anime never had anything to do with the digipets.. tamers kinda.. hinted at it a little.. but that's it.
just because you're right doesnt mean i'm not righter.
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alrite you guys
I've been gone for a long time because there was nothing to say
but now I'm pissed
BurgandyTears needs to get the fuck out. don't say that any other anime is more "mature" than another because ANIME IS CARTOONS. OH LAWD
Lucemon went crazy because in the beginning, he was chosen to rule the entire Digital World, and the power got to his head. the warriors came and beat him down, and the power was divided between the three guys, Cherubimon, what's-her-face and Seraphimon. Cherubimon thought that Seraphi and what's-her-thing were plotting against him so he beat those two down. he utilized the warriors for his own good, but half of them were brought to the little kiddies (for some reason or another, I missed that) and of course, that half was all that was needed to recruit the rest of the warriors to bring down Cherubimon. turns out that Cherubimon's emotions were exaggerrated by Lucemon's influence, who used his physical body to take the data from the world and re-use it to reincarnate himself. then there was the larvae and whatever.
maybe between all the secks I misunderstood the plot but that's what I figured anyway
point one: you guys have no place to be ratting on Junpei because he's lonely. not everyone is all happy and friendful, and he's a little shy and a very good gentleman. we all like chocolate anyway.
point two: the point of the warriors was to focus more on the people's relationships with one another rather than their monsters. plus because Wolfmon is the love omgggg <3333 but I do have one complaint, where Takuya and Kouji (there's a u, people) got all the evolutions, but it was intended for everyone to have an evolution, but the budget got cut.
point three: anyone who claims that Dejimon (especially Frontier) is lacking on emotional value needs to tune into life. did you completely miss the Kouji and Kouichi segment? the very end of the series really did make me cry.
if you guys complain because "so and so is a copy of wtf-face" then you people really are getting too into it. if you compare Frontier with Zero-Two then of course you're going to find some similarities. Kouji is NOT Ken because, one, Kouji is a pimpin' incest pedophile guy and Ken was just a pimp.
Takuya is a typical goggle-head but hey he's a great dude. "I'm in the fifth grade. I'm a man! I'm almost eleven years old!"
but hey maybe I just like all that hot secks. you know that Takuya and Kouji went to the labyrinth to "talk about things" O YEAH RLY
I believe you guys just got beat down
but yeah I guess everything else was okay too, to sum it up: Gerudamon = <3, MetalGarurumon = <33, Kulumon = living plot device, Lee = OH LAWDS <33333
I've been gone for a long time because there was nothing to say
but now I'm pissed
BurgandyTears needs to get the fuck out. don't say that any other anime is more "mature" than another because ANIME IS CARTOONS. OH LAWD
Lucemon went crazy because in the beginning, he was chosen to rule the entire Digital World, and the power got to his head. the warriors came and beat him down, and the power was divided between the three guys, Cherubimon, what's-her-face and Seraphimon. Cherubimon thought that Seraphi and what's-her-thing were plotting against him so he beat those two down. he utilized the warriors for his own good, but half of them were brought to the little kiddies (for some reason or another, I missed that) and of course, that half was all that was needed to recruit the rest of the warriors to bring down Cherubimon. turns out that Cherubimon's emotions were exaggerrated by Lucemon's influence, who used his physical body to take the data from the world and re-use it to reincarnate himself. then there was the larvae and whatever.
maybe between all the secks I misunderstood the plot but that's what I figured anyway
point one: you guys have no place to be ratting on Junpei because he's lonely. not everyone is all happy and friendful, and he's a little shy and a very good gentleman. we all like chocolate anyway.
point two: the point of the warriors was to focus more on the people's relationships with one another rather than their monsters. plus because Wolfmon is the love omgggg <3333 but I do have one complaint, where Takuya and Kouji (there's a u, people) got all the evolutions, but it was intended for everyone to have an evolution, but the budget got cut.
point three: anyone who claims that Dejimon (especially Frontier) is lacking on emotional value needs to tune into life. did you completely miss the Kouji and Kouichi segment? the very end of the series really did make me cry.
if you guys complain because "so and so is a copy of wtf-face" then you people really are getting too into it. if you compare Frontier with Zero-Two then of course you're going to find some similarities. Kouji is NOT Ken because, one, Kouji is a pimpin' incest pedophile guy and Ken was just a pimp.
Takuya is a typical goggle-head but hey he's a great dude. "I'm in the fifth grade. I'm a man! I'm almost eleven years old!"
but hey maybe I just like all that hot secks. you know that Takuya and Kouji went to the labyrinth to "talk about things" O YEAH RLY
I believe you guys just got beat down
but yeah I guess everything else was okay too, to sum it up: Gerudamon = <3, MetalGarurumon = <33, Kulumon = living plot device, Lee = OH LAWDS <33333
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Posted 14 February 2005 - 09:33 PM
Kazi-chan, you are slightly goofy, but know what? You rule. Know why?
Ah. That's the part I missed. Knew the other stuff.
Exactly. Must it always be about the animals. The series ending made me cry too, and I only saw the last ten minutes of the final episode, lol.
Yeah, I'm a softie.
And if you want to know what I meant by cheesy, I am referring to Fruits Basket and all its relatives.
It's entertainment. When you think about it, the reason I like Digimon is b/c of how deep it is for what it was supposed to be. It's a kiddy cartoon SUPPOSEDLY used to sell toys, but unlike Pokemon/Yu-gi-oh/even Inuyasha, it really struck a chord with me. I liked what they did with it.don't say that any other anime is more "mature" than another because ANIME IS CARTOONS. OH LAWD
turns out that Cherubimon's emotions were exaggerrated by Lucemon's influence, who used his physical body to take the data from the world and re-use it to reincarnate himself. then there was the larvae and whatever.
Ah. That's the part I missed. Knew the other stuff.
the point of the warriors was to focus more on the people's relationships with one another rather than their monsters
Exactly. Must it always be about the animals. The series ending made me cry too, and I only saw the last ten minutes of the final episode, lol.
Yeah, I'm a softie.
And if you want to know what I meant by cheesy, I am referring to Fruits Basket and all its relatives.
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Posted 14 February 2005 - 09:51 PM
They're just cartoons, yet you get so hyperly defensive about it. Right...
Honestly though, I just don't like it. Period. Just like how others don't give a shit about Pokemon, Ninja Turtles, Gundam, Transformers, Escaflowne, Macross, and anything else I like. And that's fine. I just don't like it when people tell me I'm a moron for not seeing some deep story because I didn't see it in the first place and don't want to see the forsaken thing. I don't care if it gets great and awesome halfway through the season, I'm not going to sit and bore myself by watching the first half.
And don't seperate Digimon from Pokemon. Digimon only existed as virtual pets before Pokemon hit, at which point it totally changed to become what it is today. Look who owns the damn thing - Bandai
BANDAI. That alone should be enough.
Seriously though, don't get so touchy on this stuff, this was just a friendly discussion on which season of Digimon people prefer (I said 3 because I honestly actually liked that one as opposed to the -in my opinion- crap of the other three). I've been wanting to step in and say something for awhile now, but let it be to the Anime Mods, but I'll say this now.
If anyone continues to post in a hostile manner, this thread will be closed and depending on my mood, said person will be suspended.
Ya'll have been warned. Honestly, it's not that big of a deal to get so huffed up about. The argument was PERFECTLY fine, even with the slight hostility until just now when it got too touchy. Besides kazi, that was a personal insult against Burgy, and there will be none of that out here. Keep it in PM's or other ways amongst yourselves.
Honestly though, I just don't like it. Period. Just like how others don't give a shit about Pokemon, Ninja Turtles, Gundam, Transformers, Escaflowne, Macross, and anything else I like. And that's fine. I just don't like it when people tell me I'm a moron for not seeing some deep story because I didn't see it in the first place and don't want to see the forsaken thing. I don't care if it gets great and awesome halfway through the season, I'm not going to sit and bore myself by watching the first half.
And don't seperate Digimon from Pokemon. Digimon only existed as virtual pets before Pokemon hit, at which point it totally changed to become what it is today. Look who owns the damn thing - Bandai
BANDAI. That alone should be enough.
Seriously though, don't get so touchy on this stuff, this was just a friendly discussion on which season of Digimon people prefer (I said 3 because I honestly actually liked that one as opposed to the -in my opinion- crap of the other three). I've been wanting to step in and say something for awhile now, but let it be to the Anime Mods, but I'll say this now.
If anyone continues to post in a hostile manner, this thread will be closed and depending on my mood, said person will be suspended.
Ya'll have been warned. Honestly, it's not that big of a deal to get so huffed up about. The argument was PERFECTLY fine, even with the slight hostility until just now when it got too touchy. Besides kazi, that was a personal insult against Burgy, and there will be none of that out here. Keep it in PM's or other ways amongst yourselves.
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Posted 14 February 2005 - 10:41 PM
Down, boy! Down! Everything's fine here.
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Posted 15 February 2005 - 08:29 AM
Hm, DJ's touchy. But Kazi-cchan WAS a bit insulting. I still thought twas fine. What's wrong with a little ribbing?
And say, burgundy, are you from Japan and learned English, or English and moved to Japan? I think it's awesome we have someone actually IN Japan here.
And say, burgundy, are you from Japan and learned English, or English and moved to Japan? I think it's awesome we have someone actually IN Japan here.
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Posted 15 February 2005 - 12:10 PM
sorry, but that's the basic definition of moron. if someone else sees a deep story and you don't, you should take their word for it. i despise pro wrestling as much as sports, but people say it has a soap-opera-esque story behind it, and that's good enough for me, so it gets respek.I just don't like it when people tell me I'm a moron for not seeing some deep story because I didn't see it in the first place and don't want to see the forsaken thing.
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Posted 15 February 2005 - 02:17 PM
Um, no, some stories are stupid. That's a faction of reality, not respect.
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Posted 15 February 2005 - 03:44 PM
sorry, but that's the basic definition of moron. if someone else sees a deep story and you don't, you should take their word for it. i despise pro wrestling as much as sports, but people say it has a soap-opera-esque story behind it, and that's good enough for me, so it gets respek.
Please for the love of God.. tell me you're being sarcastic.
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How could that not be sarcastic?
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Posted 15 February 2005 - 05:15 PM
It's definitely possible. You know, some people don't want anyone to get mad at them at all. Unlike me. I probably already pissed someone off in this one post.
"Live to please," is the motto of high school.
"Live to please," is the motto of high school.
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Well High School sucks. And so does everyone who's not the person reading this post. Catch the irony of this post, and I'll mail you a cookie.
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Posted 15 February 2005 - 07:29 PM
Mail me a cookie. Everyone sucks but you.
*chomps on cookie*
If you want an example of the strangest stupidest episode of Digimon with decent English translation, see The Island of Misfit Boys in Season 4. The writing obviously sucked some, but the voice acting really made me laugh...and Zoe was amiss. Hooray!
*chomps on cookie*
If you want an example of the strangest stupidest episode of Digimon with decent English translation, see The Island of Misfit Boys in Season 4. The writing obviously sucked some, but the voice acting really made me laugh...and Zoe was amiss. Hooray!
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Posted 15 February 2005 - 08:30 PM
sorry, but that's the basic definition of moron. if someone else sees a deep story and you don't, you should take their word for it. i despise pro wrestling as much as sports, but people say it has a soap-opera-esque story behind it, and that's good enough for me, so it gets respek.
I might be a moron, but I'm a moron who just suspended you.
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Posted 15 February 2005 - 08:40 PM
Whoops. *takes step back* Buh-bye Kairu. :'(
I'm not so sure he was calling you a moron directly DJ, but oh well! Nobody piss anybody AT ALL starting now!
I'm not so sure he was calling you a moron directly DJ, but oh well! Nobody piss anybody AT ALL starting now!
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IT SUCKS but the only one worth watching when your bored is the 1st season thing.
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It's a kiddy cartoon SUPPOSEDLY used to sell toys, but unlike Pokemon/Yu-gi-oh/even Inuyasha, it really struck a chord with me.
Hey, give Yugi some credit, it's reasonably deep.
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Yu gi oh sucks end of discussion
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 08:41 AM
....kazi-chan, have respect for either your elders or your betters, because i can tell you are not abloe to manage both. which i am both. "its cartoons! it cant be artistic" is so....not gonna start.
in answer to Husse, i'm a junior in college studying abroad at the prestigious Waseda U. for the year and have been here since september. my major is japanese studies, and i am secretly focused on an anthropological and scientific study of japanese popular media. i am currently on spring vacation, which means i spend my daylight hours in cafes studying my japanese hard-core, and my nights translating manga and playing video games. and watching japanese tv. i intend to go to graduate school here in tokyo, possibly at Sophia Univesity. my dissertation would likely have some focus on historical and modern aspects of manga.
and theres a hell of a lot of digimon toys for all the seasons here. ive actually watched the damned thing for the sake of my researches. how sad is that? i actualy flippin watch pokemon to study the market theory embedded in it.
in answer to Husse, i'm a junior in college studying abroad at the prestigious Waseda U. for the year and have been here since september. my major is japanese studies, and i am secretly focused on an anthropological and scientific study of japanese popular media. i am currently on spring vacation, which means i spend my daylight hours in cafes studying my japanese hard-core, and my nights translating manga and playing video games. and watching japanese tv. i intend to go to graduate school here in tokyo, possibly at Sophia Univesity. my dissertation would likely have some focus on historical and modern aspects of manga.
and theres a hell of a lot of digimon toys for all the seasons here. ive actually watched the damned thing for the sake of my researches. how sad is that? i actualy flippin watch pokemon to study the market theory embedded in it.
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 11:14 AM
You mean it's more complicated then "Hey kids, see what cool crap we can do and bug the hell out of your parents to buy us for you! Don't forget about the 'in space!' variations?" 
Kidding, the only bit I even remotely know works is how it is with what I know best, TF's. I swear, those repaints will be the death of me...
Kidding, the only bit I even remotely know works is how it is with what I know best, TF's. I swear, those repaints will be the death of me...
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 02:25 PM
Yes, Yu-gi-Oh sucks...buybuybuy! It's even nuttier than Pokemon with subliminal messaging to me, the characters actually fight with advertised CARDS! Shameless...
Anyway, burgundy, call me stupid, but I really wish they sold season 3 and 4 merchandise over here! Those were my fave seasons.
I don't see the problem with advertising so long as the show is enjoyable. I enjoyed Pokemon to a point, and Digimon more so, but Yu-Gi-Oh? Bleh. Inu-Yasha? I was kind of put off by it, but that's just me. I'm not even a big anime fan.
Anyway, burgundy, call me stupid, but I really wish they sold season 3 and 4 merchandise over here! Those were my fave seasons.
I don't see the problem with advertising so long as the show is enjoyable. I enjoyed Pokemon to a point, and Digimon more so, but Yu-Gi-Oh? Bleh. Inu-Yasha? I was kind of put off by it, but that's just me. I'm not even a big anime fan.
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Hero of Winds
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Quiet Riot
Posted 16 February 2005 - 03:31 PM
I might be a moron, but I'm a moron who just suspended you.
I'm having a panic attack right now, because there is no way I can convey my thoughts into words. Just the fac... no, forget it. There's no way.
....kazi-chan, have respect for either your elders or your betters, because i can tell you are not abloe to manage both. which i am both. "its cartoons! it cant be artistic" is so....not gonna start.
Don't you think it's a little arrogant of you to say you're kazi's better? Don't you also think it's arrogant for you to define what is good and deep, and what isn't? Especially since you're trying to form kazi's opinion with YOUR opinion? Digimon isn't not deep because you're in Japan, Burgy.
To be respected is to respect others as well. Saying "I'm better than you" or "Your opinion about this show's depth is wrong" is no way of gaining respect.
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 03:38 PM
I'm a moron
Good to know I'm not the only one who thinks so.
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 04:19 PM
Yes, Yu-gi-Oh sucks...buybuybuy! It's even nuttier than Pokemon with subliminal messaging to me, the characters actually fight with advertised CARDS! Shameless...
I never even thought of it that way. Of course, I watch the show, but would never buy the cards.
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Sucks to be you, don't it Ganny?
Posted 16 February 2005 - 06:39 PM
Well, that's fine, but it's still an unimaginatively blatant ad for cards.
And HoW, thank you for pointing out the obvious for us, someone needed to. This board has been overrun with arrogant "superior" people lately. Some people just don't know they're doing it, but I think everyone should be able to have a little old-fashioned ribbing in their posts without being cut down.
I mean, I'M not arrogant! (Bowtomebowtomebowtome)
And HoW, thank you for pointing out the obvious for us, someone needed to. This board has been overrun with arrogant "superior" people lately. Some people just don't know they're doing it, but I think everyone should be able to have a little old-fashioned ribbing in their posts without being cut down.
I mean, I'M not arrogant! (Bowtomebowtomebowtome)
