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[Husse]

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Malon, since she is the only one that isn't a sage.

That's another good point. In MM, when he returns, he DOESN'T marry Zelda, OR one of the Sages, people would've known he was back. He was either alone, or...heh heh. There you go.

And STOP whining about MANGA! That has nothing to do with the games, and Link and Zelda click in LoZ/AoL and WW, what more do you want?

[monique]

The manga has nothing to do with the games, x_x dude I think so!


Now tell me who is that guy in the middle of those two woman?

Zelda doesn't have a temple for herself so she can go anywhere, I can't believe people still use that for a stupid excuuse, I mean come on where the hell did Tetra came from? Princess Zelda needs decendents for her the throne of Hyrule you know >_>''
In Majora's mask Link left Hyrule but came back, Majora's mask has nothing to do with Windwaker since Windwaker is in the Ocarina of time Zelda's time line!!!
Link followed his own childhood and probably he got a girl there, and I personally believe Zelda was the closest, because Link maybe still have some 'friendly' feelings from the Zelda in Oot.

[Husse]

But...he....didn't! Alright, here, people, let's take a poll, how many of you think it's plausible that the hero "vanished" upon return and was still able to marry the princess for which it appeared he had no "romantical" feelings in OoT?

[monique]

He didn't vanished, Zelda sent him away remember?!!! think think it's in the game called Ocarina of time!
Then we follow Majora's mask, where Link is reunited with Zelda again!! then he leaves Hyrule to search for Navi, but because of Zelda's flashback we know Link will comeback. (and yes because if Link wouldn't return why the heck would Nintendo put those lines in the game.) The flashback also shows the close relationship they had, wether it was friendship or romance. We don't know but personally seeing the interviews/manga's and little hint I do believe they have a thing for each other. And for Oot's feelings well Link did showed some feelings towards Zelda (He slammed on the crystal, he shocked when Ruto said "he was looking for Zelda." and well the sky-scene was kind of sad for both of them)

[Husse]

No, I mean vanished upon returning from MM, sorry about the confusion there, lol. I know he returned back to child and stayed with Zelda in the palace, I know that!

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Alright, here, people, let's take a poll, how many of you think it's plausible that the hero "vanished" upon return and was still able to marry the princess for which it appeared he had no "romantical" feelings in OoT?

Imagine the word vanished meaning returning from MM and no one knows the hero's back, and you'll see where I'm going with that, sorry bout the confusion.

As for feelings. Yes, it was sad. They were friends! He beat on the crystal because of that, too. I'm not so sure he was mad with passion, if he just stood there, that would be stupid, what was he supposed to do?

And he was not shocked at Ruto saying she was looking for Zelda, not that that would matter. He was shocked because Ruto still wanted to marry him, that was the text cue. I'd be shocked, too!

[monique]

Wait no, Link shocks when Ruto tells him about she knowing about him looking for Zelda. >. So that was kinda the joke I guess from Nintendo >_>'' Also in the german/dutch review it was stated that the beta version of Oot actually had some romance from Zelda and Link but they put that out because well romance isn't really the most important thing in the game plus the game only has limited MB on it's cartridge!

[monique]

How do you know they don't? I mean it's never been stated, it's a mystery!
The manga maybe from someone's own story, but seeing Akira Himikawa team and Eiji Aunoma that close in the interview, well they sure have good connections. I mean Nintendo wouldn't publish a story they wouldn't like, right?
So I do think Eiji Aunoma and Miyamoto (since it's Miyamoto's characters) like the idea of the Zelda and Link fluff. Because in Minish cap well Link and Zelda are really fond of each other. they even have a thropy with them together. (I know this is friendship, but maybe Nintendo is hinting more out that Zelda is well the most important girl in the Zelda series, since the games are named after her.) Same with Tetra, Tetra was really well the only girl Link could count on (or not) and Nintendo really made Tetra like Link, and Link actually blushes when Beedle talks about Tetra. (atleast that's what I've heard x_x You have to do the card shit!) Also these two kisses each other in Ooa/Oos, now okay this could be friendship, but cute little hearts pops up and Zelda actually blushes and Link as well. <_< Now friends don't really do that, I mean if I kiss my best friend he wouldn't care! Zelda and Link have this puppy love/ unknown relationship which Nintendo tries to keep it like that. Because they probably know their are a bunch of idiot who madly fight about this and debate about it >_>;;
I hope Zelda 2005 really makes an end of all this. And that it's finally grown up, and Link hopefully finally shows his true feelings about Zelda. Like Eiji Aunoma said in the Interview! (he said seeing, so he actually kinda stated that Link has feelings for her, only you never see that! >_>)

[Hana-Nezumi]

i thought you said you were going to stop being a rabid link+zelda fan... but seriously, in mc, link and zelda are childhood friends. can you imagine marrying your childhood friend? i mean, link's father(i think he was) probably had very close ties to the royal family, so link and zelda probably grew up together like brother and sister.

[Husse]

Yes, but not in OoT. In some other game, but not OoT Link!

And, for the last time, game has bearing on manga, but manga has NO bearing on game. GET OVER IT...

[Hana-Nezumi]

i agree, but some people think its proposterous for the hero to get anyone but the princess.

[Vazor]

That's because some people lack imagination.

[Husse]

And spine. Don't forget spine. If they come up with another theory, people will *gasp* belittle them!

Which is what we're doing to Zelda+ Link theorists anyway, of course, lol.

[monique]

Please people, isn't it obvious?
The review of the german/dutch magazine that is official from Nintendo talk about Romance with the Princess.
Miyamoto and Eiji Aunoma both read the manga's and they actually agree it otherwise they wouldn't publish it!
Marrying your childhood friend is populair for story's, Because they have something special!
Link and Zelda are always bounded to each other. wether Link marries Malon or any other girl. Zelda will still be in his mind, same with Princess Zelda.
When Zelda was turned into stone and woke up thanks to Link. Zelda tells him that she was dreaming of him and that she knew that he was saving her! Now isn't that special?
And why not Oot Link? I bet he had a little crush on the Princess.. Little hints tell.
Especially when Zelda turned around when she was young.
And well Mario and Peach ends up together >_> so why not Link and Zelda? they are like the elf version of Mario and Peach!
Oh and stop bashing me, I have seen worser bashing! And isn't that against the rules?

Holy mofo I even forgot the official a link to the past drama cd disk! Read the japanese translation and I'm sure that they have puppy romance!
"the heroic strenght that is love!" *then Link hears a familiar voice* guess who?

Plus really >_> there are better theories on ZeldaxLink then on MalonxLink.
LMAO those two didn't even had ONE scene together!

[Vazor]

monique said

Link and Zelda are always bounded to each other. wether Link marries Malon or any other girl. Zelda will still be in his mind, same with Princess Zelda.

Um...where does it ever say that? You're making this up as you go along.

monique said

When Zelda was turned into stone and woke up thanks to Link. Zelda tells him that she was dreaming of him and that she knew that he was saving her! Now isn't that special?

Yes it is special, because he's the hero. It's his destiny to save Hyrule. Saving Zelda didn't matter as much as preventing Vaati from taking over the world.

monique said

And why not Oot Link? I bet he had a little crush on the Princess.. Little hints tell.

Link doesn't ever talk, so how can you tell? Answer: you can't.

monique said

Especially when Zelda turned around when she was young.

Wow, and here I thought that she was just surprised because I don't know, maybe that somebody managed to get past all her royal gaurds and get into her courtyard unnoticed.

monique said

And well Mario and Peach ends up together >_> so why not Link and Zelda?

Actually, a recent study showed that Mario and Zelda are actually different.

monique said

Holy mofo I even forgot the official a link to the past drama cd disk! Read the japanese translation and I'm sure that they have puppy romance!
"the heroic strenght that is love!" *then Link hears a familiar voice* guess who?  

Official just means that it's liscensed by Nintendo, not that it's canon. The Valiant comics were official. The SMB Movie was official. Captain N was official! None of these were canon!

monique said

Plus really >_> there are better theories on ZeldaxLink then on MalonxLink.  
LMAO those two didn't even had ONE scene together!

A) What you mean is there is better FANFICTION about it. Nothing canon.
B) Talon did offer Malon's hand in marriage...but I don't take that as much of a sign either, just more of a sign than he had in any scene with Zelda.

[Hana-Nezumi]

vazor just disproved all of monique's points! what's she have to say about that?

[Husse]

She'll gut him with more fanfiction, heh heh. Vazor, you rock! That was hysterical!

And I thought I was abominably rude. w00! New record.

No, Monique, what are you doing with that dagger? NO STOP!!!

[Vazor]

Wow, people supporting me...I feel special!

I don't mean to be rude to Monique, but...well...yeah.

Weee, I got a record! I'm-a gonna go play Minish Cap to celebrate.

[Husse]

Rock on, dude. :cool:

[monique]

Vazor20X6 said

Um...where does it ever say that?  You're making this up as you go along.

Yes it is special, because he's the hero.  It's his destiny to save Hyrule.  Saving Zelda didn't matter as much as preventing Vaati from taking over the world.

Link doesn't ever talk, so how can you tell?  Answer: you can't.

Wow, and here I thought that she was just surprised because I don't know, maybe that somebody managed to get past all her royal gaurds and get into her courtyard unnoticed.

Actually, a recent study showed that Mario and Zelda are actually different.

Official just means that it's liscensed by Nintendo, not that it's canon.  The Valiant comics were official.  The SMB Movie was official.  Captain N was official!  None of these were canon!

A) What you mean is there is better FANFICTION about it.  Nothing canon.
B) Talon did offer Malon's hand in marriage...but I don't take that as much of a sign either, just more of a sign than he had in any scene with Zelda.

First one: All the secrets in Ocarina of time, if Link had a girl that wasn't Zelda, he still would keep those secrets which he and Zelda only know, he freaken dreams about her. He spend seven years with her, while she doesn't even know it in Majora's mask.
That flashback was pretty sure that they had something special.
In TMC they were very close friends.
Actually he was saving her not Hyrule. I still remember reading that Vaati actually said; "I have taken your precious Zelda." Even Ganondorf say's that in windwaker thinking that Link the hero of winds is Link the hero of time!

I can answer it, the feelings towards Zelda was different then any other girl.
When Zelda was Sheik, Link had a different feeling for Sheik. He always tried to approuch her because she was so mysteries and he probably felt something towards her.
When he shocked infront of Ruto when Ruto told him about Zelda!
When you meet Zelda the first time, you hear this sound of beauty and gorgeous!
Zelda was showing her feelings too, everytime when Link got hurt she covered her eyes. She probably didn't want to see Link get hurt! Same with Ganon, she screams when Link gets hurt! Now aren't those strong feelings towards somebody?
Also in Ssbm they changed Link's fighting pose towards Zelda. They created a team pose for Sheik/Zelda and Link together but they also created a hinting pose of Link showing off for his Princess. Of course you'll probably find it BS but it is true, none of the other characters poses changed. Not even Mario's!

Mario and Peach were created by Miyamoto too, Same with Luigi and Daisy!
They are all princess and peasants together. Well Link is a peasant, Zelda is a princess. Why would Miyamoto think of them differently then Mario, Peach, Luigi and Daisy?

The Alttp drama cd disc was well created by Koji kondo I believe.
And Talon made freaken joke, lol he must be despressed thinking his own girl can't even find her own boyfriend hahahahaha j/k!

the only thing I don't understand is, that all the official/licensed articles Nintendo has that isn't in the game. Is not shown official in your eyes! Because it's not in the game, while it actually makes more depht in the story!

[Husse]

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if Link had a girl that wasn't Zelda, he still would keep those secrets which he and Zelda only know, he freaken dreams about her.

Wow, don't remember that, and the 1st part made no sense....

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That flashback was pretty sure that they had something special.
In TMC they were very close friends.

Oh, you call that a dream? Here's why he remembered it: look at your 2nd line...they were close frinds in OoT too, kiddo.

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Actually he was saving her not Hyrule. I still remember reading that Vaati actually said; "I have taken your precious Zelda." Even Ganondorf say's that in windwaker thinking that Link the hero of winds is Link the hero of time!

1. Friendship is precious.
2. WW, it's fairly obvious they have a THING, but
3. We're not talking about either of those.

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When Zelda was Sheik, Link had a different feeling for Sheik. He always tried to approuch her because she was so mysteries and he probably felt something towards her.

Yeah, he was a weird BOY. You suggesting Link's psychic or gay? He was curious b/c Sheik knew a lot that he didn't, and he wanted to fight his way out of this nightmare. Doesn't mean he was in love with the cross-dresser. Good Lord, what a stupid piece of evidence.

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When he shocked infront of Ruto when Ruto told him about Zelda!

Nn-hn. It's called disgust.

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When you meet Zelda the first time, you hear this sound of beauty and gorgeous!

That's a beautifully gorgeously constructed sentence! It's the bloody PRINCESS. Malon sings beautifully, it echoes through the air, they share a "moment" in the ranch with GORGEOUS music, but I never add that as evidence to my Link + Malon theory cause it AIN'T enough.

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Zelda was showing her feelings too, everytime when Link got hurt she covered her eyes. She probably didn't want to see Link get hurt! Same with Ganon, she screams when Link gets hurt! Now aren't those strong feelings towards somebody?

Yes ma'am, it's called friendship/deep care. What was she supposed to do, stand there and go, "Oh well, he'll just get another bruise. I should've been a mage." No. She "gasps" when she first meets him, are you suggesting that means she's madly in love? Psh.

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Also in Ssbm they changed Link's fighting pose towards Zelda.

Kay, whatever. That's not OoT, and I don't think you're right anyway. People playing SSBM are going to assume those two are an item regardless.

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Mario and Peach were created by Miyamoto too, Same with Luigi and Daisy!
They are all princess and peasants together. Well Link is a peasant, Zelda is a princess. Why would Miyamoto think of them differently then Mario, Peach, Luigi and Daisy?

Oh yeah, DK is a peasant in love with the princess (really a slut) Candy, and filthy rich Fox is in love with Krystal the princess who thinks he's a dork. Each game is different. While all girls are glamorous, you'll note that when Miyamoto has characters in love, he makes it PAINFULLY obvious. No such luck in OoT. No romance....yet.

I think I've said this before, but I can't yammer on your last paragraph until it makes sense.

And, as a final note, you may really have good points, but keep them in your head unless you have solid evidence, and can spell okay, thank you. Otherwise, you make somewhat plausible stuff sound stupid. I have wild Zelda theories that never leave my brain b/c of no proof. Wanna hear one? Okay, I'll leave you with a tidbit from my cerebellum.

Senza is would-be suitor of Tetra's mother.

There? Sounds asinine, don't it?

[Hana-Nezumi]

monique said

First one: All the secrets in Ocarina of time, if Link had a girl that wasn't Zelda, he still would keep those secrets which he and Zelda only know, he freaken dreams about her.

the only dream of link's that we see is the one in the very beginning of the game. it showed the future, not his feelings toward zelda. he hadn't even met her!

monique said

He spend seven years with her, while she doesn't even know it in Majora's mask.  

he did not spend seven years with her, he was sleeping!

monique said

That flashback was pretty sure that they had something special

yeah, something like friendship.

monique said

In TMC they were very close friends.

exactly. close friends. like link and saria.

monique said

Actually he was saving her not Hyrule. I still remember reading that Vaati actually said; "I have taken your precious Zelda." Even Ganondorf say's that in windwaker thinking that Link the hero of winds is Link the hero of time!  

zelda is precious because she is link's friend and princess of hyrule and bearer of the triforce of wisdom/light force.

monique said

I can answer it, the feelings towards Zelda was different then any other girl.

how do you know his feelings toward zelda? link never says anything!

monique said

When Zelda was Sheik, Link had a different feeling for Sheik. He always tried to approuch her because she was so mysteries and he probably felt something towards her.  

he probably did fell a sense of mystery behind sheik, but that's all. it's not like he was thinking about romance.

monique said

When he shocked infront of Ruto when Ruto told him about Zelda!

i don't remember ruto telling link anything about zelda. could you please give me a quote?

monique said

When you meet Zelda the first time, you hear this sound of beauty and gorgeous!

yes, i remember that sound of "beauty and gorgeous" perfectly. she is a princess. of course she's going to have some sense of grace and elegance to her. it does not show anything about romance.

monique said

Zelda was showing her feelings too, everytime when Link got hurt she covered her eyes. She probably didn't want to see Link get hurt! Same with Ganon, she screams when Link gets hurt! Now aren't those strong feelings towards somebody?

he's her only hope for hyrule's and her's safety, of course she will get worried about him.

monique said

Also in Ssbm they changed Link's fighting pose towards Zelda. They created a team pose for Sheik/Zelda and Link together but they also created a hinting pose of Link showing off for his Princess. Of course you'll probably find it BS but it is true, none of the other characters poses changed. Not even Mario's!

oh please, not that story again! that doesn't mean anything! they're poses do not go together, link flips his hair and zelda prays!

monique said

Mario and Peach were created by Miyamoto too, Same with Luigi and Daisy!  
They are all princess and peasants together. Well Link is a peasant, Zelda is a princess. Why would Miyamoto think of them differently then Mario, Peach, Luigi and Daisy?

actually, i'm a fan of mario and daisy. but last time i looked, zelda was different than mario, and miyamoto isn't the only one who makes the decisions.

monique said

The Alttp drama cd disc was well created by Koji kondo I believe.
And Talon made freaken joke, lol he must be despressed thinking his own girl can't even find her own boyfriend hahahahaha j/k!

do you think everyone who made the alttp drama cd disk is right? they're opinion is just as official as ours, if they didn't help make the game. and talon is like most parents who make jokes about romance every time a guy is a friend with a girl. there are other references also, such as the gossip stone.

monique said

the only thing I don't understand is, that all the official/licensed articles Nintendo has that isn't in the game. Is not shown official in your eyes! Because it's not in the game, while it actually makes more depht in the story!

its one person's take on the story. we all interpret it in different ways. their opinion is only official if they helped make the game. of course nintendo will publicise an opinion they like, even though it is just one possibility.

Edit: took me a long time to write that, so husse got to it before i could

[Zythe]

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When Zelda was Sheik, Link had a different feeling for Sheik. He always tried to approuch her because she was so mysteries and he probably felt something towards her.

So he comes on to Sheik but not Zelda? There's your proof. Link's gay. Explains his being a pretty boy. 'Nuff said.

[Husse]

HAH! That's what I said! She's taken every time Zelda appears and pretended it's romance related. *snort* Even me, a Malon fanatacist, doesn't do that.