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[Fatgoron]

Yes. The noble sword. It is "sharpened" into the Master Sword, by Zora royalty. It makes sense that an old Zora would have it, if after TWW it broke out of Ganon's head when he corroded or whatever and then the Zora found it. Note the Zora is old. Note that TWW (most likely) happened a long time before OoA.

Yeah, at the moment I subscribe to the idea that WW occurs after OoT/MM without interruption, then is followed by LoZ/AoL/Oracles/FSA, although not neccessarily in that order, with aLttP occuring later.(Of course, I've read some things that are making me question TMC's placement, which would naturally affect FSA's place)

That is an absolutely perfect explanation for what happened to the master sword. That would put OoS before OoA right? As you'd obtain the noble sword in OoS, then go on to use the secret to get it in OoA, then obtain the MS.(IIRC)

Funny thing, mike peters/luigi_64 keeps making things up about Oracles to fit his theory on the nintendo.com forums. Apparently the opening is a dream, and Ganon has the ToP, and is alive, regardless of what the characters say about him being resurrected.
Apparently you can bring a person back into use or practise from a state of inactivity, the guy even tried to debate the meaning of the word theory, and best of all I told the person he was debating with that it would happen beforehand.

Actually, is it ok to mention him here? Or is he taboo?

[Zythe]

The only time you enter the Minish Realm, is to enter the Shrine, which almost is the The other option is that when Hyrule was flooded, the Four Sword had to be removed from the shrine and placed in a new one, the only logical location being the sealed-off Sacred Realm. But that requires too much fanfiction. It answers more questions to say the Minish Realm is the Sacred Realm. If they were there, we'd never even know.

That is an absolutely perfect explanation for what happened to the master sword. That would put OoS before OoA right? As you'd obtain the noble sword in OoS, then go on to use the secret to get it in OoA, then obtain the MS.(IIRC)

Either way works, because you get it from a Zora in OoA (found it under water, broke it or it was already broken - whatever) and then a King Zora (relative of Sage, maybe?) restores its power.

In OoS you find it in the woods, don't you, like you would regularly find the Master Sword, and it's upgraded in a similar way. Oracles can be interpreted as you play them, in whatever order that was.

[Zythe]

WS does not become MS. It gets replaced/

[Zythe]

True. But I always held the opinion that the MagSw was a recreation of the Evil's Bane so that the Master Sword could continue doing its Key of Time thing, undisturbed.

[Fatgoron]

Yeah, the power of the magic sword does seem to be at least comparable to that of the master sword in LoZ. There are few items that have been shown to be effective against Ganon while he wields the triforce of power.

[Zythe]

And there are quotes saying you need it to destroy him. Although, it is possible to beat the game with a wooden sword.

[Fatgoron]

Good point, I guess it must be the silver arrows that do all the work in that case.

[Zythe]

Yep. As we've developed onto that subject, are the Silver Arrows and Light Arrows one in the same?

[Hero of Winds]

Yep. As we've developed onto that subject, are the Silver Arrows and Light Arrows one in the same?

No. The Silver Arrows have the power to kill Ganon, whereas the Light Arrows (created by Zelda) can only paralyze him for a short time.

[Zythe]

So Venus>Zelda?

[Zythe]

Oh. I assumed that the thing about Venus was that the curse Ganon put on her, to make her fat, was undone. Never mind.

[Zythe]

If you go by SCII *dodges rotten food* the only advantage to the Magical Sword is that it pierces through enemy defences.

[Zythe]

I disagree. The Great Fairy Sword is by far the best weapon in SCII, followed by the blue cane whose name I have forgotten.

[Zythe]

Isn't the Soul Edge the best weapon, in terms of power, seeing as the catch is it drains your health as you use it?

[Zythe]

Which, unfortunately, is all irrelevant as SCII was a side-point in an earlier post. I don't get the Minish=Kokiri thing some of you have mentioned, if we were to go back on topic.

[Vazor]

Think about it: The minish live in the same woods as the Kokiri, the name Picori is very similar to Kokiri, the picori never get any bigger (while the kokiri never get any older). It's pretty obvious that Nintendo is implying some kind of connection between the two.
My speculation: Over the years, the Picori evolved to larger size, but lost some of their magic. As the Great Deku Tree grew, they became more dependent on it's protection over them until they literally became the eternal children of the forest, and over the years forgot about their origins.

[Zythe]

Well if the Great Deku Tree, as a Spirit, some demi-god type thing has that kind of power then yeah. Or, maybe, like Yukes of FF:CC they changed their shape.

I'll need proof to believe it though. Proper proof. Not just speculationship.

[Vazor]

Well, most of Zelda theory IS speculation. That's just my theory on the connection, it's not necessarily true, but it's obvious that there is some connection between the two races.
And I've always believed the Great Deku Tree to have God-like powers. It's just the way I saw it when I first played the game.

[Zythe]

I don't see why they would grow in size. Things only evolve when they're forced to by circumstances. ie. no land left in Hyrule, so Kokiris become flying Koroks or seas become overridden with monsters so Zora become flying Ritos.

Could the immigrant Minish not just stay behind the scenes in all the games, holding their little tea parties? For all you know, the Kokiri children are the forest spirits having changed to as a sign of respect for the 2 inch tall guardians of Hyrule.

[Kairu Hakubi]

aren't the minish -supposed- to be behind the scenes in all subsequent games, explaining why rupees are hidden in grass and enemies and stuff?

[Zythe]

Yes. They are. Link's little guardian *thinks* things.

[Fatgoron]

The picori live in the Minish woods, the Kokiri live in the lost woods. Wether or not they are the same is debatable, but I never remember getting lost in the Minish woods and being returned to the entrance.