@Average Gamer: I'm already debating these points with you on ZU so I'm not going to reply to them here.
Whoa, whoa, WHOA!
Y'all went and took over my thread. I don't even know where to start, lol. Well, as far as SS speculations go, I don't think it's that much of a wild speculation that SS might have something to do with TMC since it has the same director who has used elements of past games. And given how SS has been confirmed to be a origin story of sorts for the Master Sword and how that was TMC original intent before that story element got scrapped, I don't think it's much of a stretch to say SS may put to rest the whole TMC placement debate for good. At first I was hesitant to make such a guess before the game was released but now I think it's very likely it will tie up some loose ends TMC left behind.
I do think TMC was meant to be first, and I do think that it was originally meant to show the origins of the Master Sword. Nintendo probably wanted more emphasis on their Four Swords games, however, and probably made a last minute change to the Master Sword, making it the Four Sword. I think a lot of the leftover "origin" things about it such as Link's cap are leftover intent from that period of development. Whether the FS games take place on AT, I think it's a possibility at this point. Regardless, I think SS might be what TMC was supposed to be.
That's what I'm getting at. I think making a big deal about the Hero of Men being capless in unneccessary because the only image we have of him is the stain glass picture which has him holding a very Master Sword-looking Picori Blade. Which could just meant it's just another remnant of TMC original intent that got scrapped. It's never emphasized in the game, really. So why fuss over it?
I agree completely with your logic...but the question is that if TMC doesn't do first then does it go on the CT with the rest of the FSS or the adult timeline?
If I put the Four Swords games on the Child Timeline, then they've appeared on the Child Timeline. Your argument only exists in the face of your theory. "X is in support of Theory Y, but X is only true BECAUSE of Theory Y." It's a fucking circular argument.
Of the CONFIRMED games on the timeline, only PH and ST have force gems. TP or OoT or whatever does not. Deal with it and please NEVER accuse me of that logic again.
It's still on the Child Timeline; what does it fucking matter whether or not it's in an alternate world? Does Link's Awakening no longer count as a Child Timeline game because it was a dream? How about Phantom Hourglass? Does that not count as an Adult Timeline game anymore because it's apparently in another world? Oh wait that's one of the Force Gem games you're trying to cite in the first argument. Looks like you just fucked your own reasoning in the ass.
What the fuck are you talking about? LA is a dream not confirmed to fall on the CT, PH could be a variety of things and MM is an alternate world. Now please stop being rude to me.
The Hero of Men wears green because he's a Link. He doesn't wear a hat because he's apparently ruggedly handsome and badass and he has to not wear one so that TMC Link can have a hat without known precedent and create a spiritual echo theme. No explanation needed (this is exactly what I mean about people disregarding the intention of games in their self-contained narrative in order you dickinmouf them to place).
The hero of Men was most likely Swiftblade the first. And if we focus on the individual themes of the games that would make TMC first which it obviously isn't. If you can't have this discussion without acting like a 5 year old than I'm leaving. Go back and look at your posts. We're all on the same side and I am NOT your enemy.
I still don't see how a statue of Tingle that's more of an easter egg than anything else can be considered evidence for your theory. Or how MM being in an alternate dimension makes the inclusion of Tingle any less relevant, for that matter.
I'm saying there is no tingle on the CT in Hyrule whereas there is in Hyrule on the AT...also it isn't a statue. Please watch the credits.