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[Raien]

Oh, the Daleks and the Cybermen are back for another season finale. What a surprise...

BUT WAIT, THERE'S A TWIST!

The Daleks and the Cybermen are both in it TOGETHER! That's got to be something new and exciting! Right...?

[Chikara Nadir]

But I dunno about anyone they're NOT bringing back. That was a confusing question. XD

Don't worry about it, Mitch. I was just being silly/sarcastic about how they're trying to pile in as many threats as possible to the point where it looks absurd.

I do hope Moriatti's right about the enemies being a sideshow to the real event.

[Moriatti]

Unless the episode summary is incorrect, I am.

I KNOW WHAT'S IN/GOING TO BE IN THE PANDORICA!

Though, I knew that BEFORE reading spoilers, so I'm just good at Doctor Who.

EDIT: I more or less knew it SPECIFICALLY after watching Amy's choice.

EDIT PART 2: Aww, my title no longer says "Expert" time to get rid of crazy Jack, I guess.

Edited by Moriatti, 16 June 2010 - 01:50 PM.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

You know, already? From elemental deductive reasoning?

[Veteran]

I've not seen any spoilers, so my own theory isn't a spoiler, just wild speculation.



RORY'S IN THE BOX!

[Moriatti]

Haha, I hope. Rory's an awesome character, and I know that the actor is listed for the finale.

I don't know everything. But I'll be damned if the preview for "The Pandorica Opens" isn't a dead give away.

Spoilered for those who haven't seen "The Lodger" The quote and my interpretation. I don't outright say it, but... Well.

Spoiler

"There was a goblin. Or a trickster, or a warrior. A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. Nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it -- one day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world."

Who do we know that's tricky, been called a warrior, could be called a goblin, doesn't have a name, has caused the extinction of a few species online, and is feared by the most aliens in the series? Someone who's already had a villainous role in this series? Someone who we know to just randomly drop out of the sky and change the status quo, usually with a lot of destruction involved?

Edited by Moriatti, 16 June 2010 - 02:34 PM.

[Showsni]

Is hope in the bottom of the box?

[Moriatti]

Actually it's Jeff from episode one.

[Emiko]

*spoiler*

Grr...They killed off Rory last night! >_<

btw...on another note..I thought it was funny that David Tennant who played the doctor before Matt; the reason he became an actor was because he wanted to play Dr. Who..and he did xD

I love it when dreams come true.

Edited by Kawaii Emiko, 20 June 2010 - 10:35 AM.

[Raien]

Grr...They killed off Rory last night! >_<

No, they didn't. They just destroyed the entire universe, that's all. You saying you didn't see those stars and planets exploding at the end?

[Pinecove]

I want to murder Stephen Moffet.
Bring back Russel T Davies. HE doesn't try to create the most epic episodes that end horribly, contradicting common sense and leaving plot holes in their wake.

I'm actually really disappointed with this season.

[Veteran]

Screw plot holes THAT WAS AN AWESOME CLIFFHANGER!

[Emiko]

Grr...They killed off Rory last night! >_<

No, they didn't. They just destroyed the entire universe, that's all. You saying you didn't see those stars and planets exploding at the end?

O_o I seen Rory being eaten by the time eating light...and then Amy forgetting him...and then the Dr opening the hankie to find a piece of his Tardis...then it ended..

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Oh dear... when I hear the Doctor say that anyone who got sucked into the cracks gets erased from history, I thought he meant... GETS ERASED FROM HISTORY!

Spoiler

If Rory was erased from history, then how is it possible that he still exists in a photograph in Amelia's room in her house? He never existed, therefore, he couldn't possibly have grown old enough to have met Amelia and pose as a centurian for a photograph! Oceania's Ministry of Truth was far more efficient than those cracks in time. I could just about forgive the existence of the ring, because it was in the TARDIS and therefore exempt, but how did the photograph get missed?

To be fair, I didn't really realise until after the show had ended.

[Veteran]

I trust in the Grand Moff to have thought all this through and it'll be explained next week. He doesn't seem the type to leave in continuity errors.

O_o I seen Rory being eaten by the time eating light...and then Amy forgetting him...and then the Dr opening the hankie to find a piece of his Tardis...then it ended

We're talking about the first part of the finale, Emi. Avert your eyes!

We'll keep things in spoiler tags from here on in.

[Chikara Nadir]

Grr...They killed off Rory last night! >_<

No, they didn't. They just destroyed the entire universe, that's all. You saying you didn't see those stars and planets exploding at the end?

O_o I seen Rory being eaten by the time eating light...and then Amy forgetting him...and then the Dr opening the hankie to find a piece of his Tardis...then it ended..

Yeaaah, sorry, Emi. ^^ Some of the posts here, as Vet pointed out, refer to what just aired in England, not in the USA. So we'll all try to keep that in spoiler tags!

edit:

Spoiler

So. Did River plan on doing this all along? She behaved in her last words as though all of this was on purpose, her stealing (and blowing up) the Tardis, trapping the doctor, and destroying the stars.

However. I'm still hopeful to see a rather Bad Wolf scenerio play out with Amy.

1) She lives in that huge house all alone (we never did see her aunt) in a village with a pond that holds no ducks - the baddies claim she was implanted with thoughts and ideas, but I still can't help but wonder if she herself was a plant. There are just so many ways in which little pieces of time seem to be messed with, like:
2) Amy trying to warn herself in the recorded video of the voting box on the British ship.
3) The Doctor coming back to comfort Amy when she was unable to open her eyes around the Weeping Angels - this Doctor had his jacket on, while the current one at the time had his stolen by the angels.
4) Why didn't she remember the Dalek and Cyberman attacks? Just because they had wiped themselves from her mind on their own while they were busy manipulating it?
5) I swear that if this is a sequence created by the Dream Lord, I'll be very, very cross.

Is The Doctor just going to be holed up in that cube for a couple millennia until Amy can be born in her own regular time and she can find him? Or will something greater and wilder occur?

[Moriatti]

So I was right. A bit disappointing.

Spoiler

The monsters played a larger role than I expected, but not too much. How did they contact each other?

Will the Dreamlord/Valeyard Doctor get his time in the limelight or is that later?

I hope Plastic Rory becomes a regular companion.

[Emiko]

Grr...They killed off Rory last night! >_<

No, they didn't. They just destroyed the entire universe, that's all. You saying you didn't see those stars and planets exploding at the end?

O_o I seen Rory being eaten by the time eating light...and then Amy forgetting him...and then the Dr opening the hankie to find a piece of his Tardis...then it ended..

Yeaaah, sorry, Emi. ^^ Some of the posts here, as Vet pointed out, refer to what just aired in England, not in the USA. So we'll all try to keep that in spoiler tags!

edit:

Spoiler

So. Did River plan on doing this all along? She behaved in her last words as though all of this was on purpose, her stealing (and blowing up) the Tardis, trapping the doctor, and destroying the stars.

However. I'm still hopeful to see a rather Bad Wolf scenerio play out with Amy.

1) She lives in that huge house all alone (we never did see her aunt) in a village with a pond that holds no ducks - the baddies claim she was implanted with thoughts and ideas, but I still can't help but wonder if she herself was a plant. There are just so many ways in which little pieces of time seem to be messed with, like:
2) Amy trying to warn herself in the recorded video of the voting box on the British ship.
3) The Doctor coming back to comfort Amy when she was unable to open her eyes around the Weeping Angels - this Doctor had his jacket on, while the current one at the time had his stolen by the angels.
4) Why didn't she remember the Dalek and Cyberman attacks? Just because they had wiped themselves from her mind on their own while they were busy manipulating it?
5) I swear that if this is a sequence created by the Dream Lord, I'll be very, very cross.

Is The Doctor just going to be holed up in that cube for a couple millennia until Amy can be born in her own regular time and she can find him? Or will something greater and wilder occur?

That's all right...I am like far behind in everything anyways...I only seen three seasons..I finished up season 3 the other day..and then I watched "End of Time" which I probably should have waited until I watched season 4..but it came and I watched it...I still need to go back and watch season 1..and that isn't even mentioning the original...like 20+ seasons from the 50s thru the 80s... O_O

btw..

you all suck..I have to wait until every sat on BBCA to watch the "new" episodes..and I can't find them online >_<

edit:

I have a question..

ok...so in season 3 in the eps "Don't Blink" that is the first time they met the Weeping Angels? but in the newer season when they went to that planet with the weeping angels he said that whatever holds the image of the angel becomes the angel...in season 3 Sally Sparrow took a picture of the angel..does that mean that it could become the angel? O_o

Edited by Kawaii Emiko, 22 June 2010 - 09:28 PM.

[Veteran]

They explained that away when the Doctor (in the latest Angel episodes) said the ones from Blink were scavangers and barely surviving, implying they didn't have access to their full powers.

Also, none of the people killed in the latest Angel episode were sent back in time.

[Emiko]

They explained that away when the Doctor (in the latest Angel episodes) said the ones from Blink were scavangers and barely surviving, implying they didn't have access to their full powers.

Also, none of the people killed in the latest Angel episode were sent back in time.

I will tell you, those are some scary bad guys....I wondered why they sent people back in time instead of just killing them like they did in the later episode. ...oh well thanks =D

grr...

This must be how Vet felt when he had to wait for the new eps of Lost to show overseas...

[Veteran]

Holy good god!

If television exploded tomorrow it wouldn't matter. That was the single greatest TV episode of anything I've ever seen ever.

Spoiler

I love that we don't know who the big bad is. Multi-series arc at last! The Grand Moff is my master now!

[Emiko]

Holy good god!

If television exploded tomorrow it wouldn't matter. That was the single greatest TV episode of anything I've ever seen ever.

Spoiler

I love that we don't know who the big bad is. Multi-series arc at last! The Grand Moff is my master now!

*punches you*

Shut up!


lol j/k

I got Aydin wanting to watch Dr. Who now xD It gets to the point that we watch so much Dr. Who..he goes "Mommy..I want to watch cartoons now, I don't want to watch Dr. Who anymore..." lol

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Holy good god!

If television exploded tomorrow it wouldn't matter. That was the single greatest TV episode of anything I've ever seen ever.

Spoiler

I love that we don't know who the big bad is. Multi-series arc at last! The Grand Moff is my master now!

The photo issue I brought up still hasn't been explained. I'm guessing that the Cracks aren't as good as the Doctor made them out to be.

Spoiler

And it's so obvious the Big Bad is Davros. The voice we heard in the previous episode even sounded like him. And he's the most likely to pull off a plan like that, unless Moffatt has decided to create a new villain.

Edited by Wolf O'Donnell, 26 June 2010 - 03:14 PM.

[Raien]

Me and my Dad just finished watching the final episode. Aside from raving about how brilliant it was, my Dad, who has watched most of the classic episodes, said this Matt Smith series is a serious contender for best Dr. Who series ever. I believe him.

[JRPomazon]

I need to get my hands on Series 5, I just finished the End of Time. Although Matt Smith kinda looks like the lion faced kid from Mask.

Edited by JRPomazon, 26 June 2010 - 04:22 PM.

[Veteran]

The photo issue I brought up still hasn't been explained. I'm guessing that the Cracks aren't as good as the Doctor made them out to be.

Spoiler

That wasn't the only thing though, the little puppets of the Doctor and Amy were still in adult Amy's room when she woke up, despite at this point the Doctor had never existed. And along the same lines, how did the Doctor get out of the Pandorica after he flew it into the exploding TARDIS?

Some things were answered like Amy's house being too big - her parents were erased from time for most of the series.

But seeing as this is now a multi-series arc, I have faith in the Moff that all this and more will continue in the next series.

[Masamune]

Aside from the contrived solution at the beginning of the episode, I loved it. The ending made me so happy.

Spoiler

Amy and Rory are going to have like, the best honeymoon ever. I think they're a serious contender against Donna for being my favorite companions.

[Chikara Nadir]

You're telling me, Masa. I know I've said it before, but I never thought I could love any companion as much as Rose Tyler. Until now.

Spoiler

I'm sure it's just that we were overthinking things way too much, but I want to know why the duck pond had no ducks. Unless we're to assume that it's one of those things where it's unstated that they were erased from time.

I am glad that Amy got her family back, even if for only a couple of hours before hopping back on that Tardis. Though I was kinda hoping her house was too big because it housed a secret time/space machine like in The Lodger.

Now to wait and see how they play off the real reason why the cracks were borne and the Tardis was being controlled! Oh, and here's to more River Song, wherein something happens very soon, she's sorry, and it changes everything!

[Wolf O'Donnell]

You know how in one of the James Bond movies, a secret base is hidden underneath the ocean?

Well, the duck pond is harbouring a secret base too! Except it doesn't need to be that big.



Of course, as this is Doctor Who we're talking about, the nonsense I've just spouted is plausible enough to be true. Is that a sad thing or a good thing?

Edited by Wolf O'Donnell, 29 June 2010 - 01:36 PM.

[JRPomazon]

DAMN IT O'DONNELL, that's a spoiler for me! CAREFUL!