EDIT: wow what a random rant was that, sorry. Doesn't relate to the thread at all
where is my mind?
Ganon in ALttP isn't Ganondorf
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, Oct 12 2004 07:10 PM
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 03:59 PM
I can't put my finger on the feeling I have that the sages from the WW somehow relate to the seven sages from the Ocarina of Time, I think because there were no sages of Earth and Air in OoT, if I recall it correctly. Of course, that doesn't say anything at all.
EDIT: wow what a random rant was that, sorry. Doesn't relate to the thread at all where is my mind?
EDIT: wow what a random rant was that, sorry. Doesn't relate to the thread at all
where is my mind?
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 04:14 PM
Um...well, Zelda is still around, for one. and the LTTP descendants are still around, and they can't be if he killed him in TWW time. So...yea, he probably didn't have time to kill the desendants, what with the War in Hyrule and the Goddesses Descending to flood everything N'all.
Yeah but the maidens in LTTP, none of them have any traits of a Goron or a Zora...there all human..and they sure as hell don't have any traits of being a mixed breeded race, like Medli (supposedly)--they all look the same!
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 04:30 PM
Okay, now you're making stuff up. What war in Hyrule?
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 04:38 PM
He's really just referring to events leading to the flood...perhaps there was a war...but Ganon was obviously the victor and when all seemed lost the Gods flooded Hyrule...besides...you don't think the people of Hyrule would go down without a fight do you? They were clearly no match for Ganon, but they might have tried.Okay, now you're making stuff up. What war in Hyrule?
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 05:18 PM
Oh yeah that. Well the intro is very ambiguous. The way Hyrule Castle looks in TWW in looks like it was more of an ambush than an actual war.
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 05:28 PM
Oh yeah that. Well the intro is very ambiguous. The way Hyrule Castle looks in TWW in looks like it was more of an ambush than an actual war.
It could work either way...it's really irrelevant..as long as we know Ganon escaped and the world was flooded.
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 06:06 PM
It's actually a tie in to TWW. Recall in the TWW backstory, Ganon did break the seal and he killed of the descendants, and there was no one around to stop him and thus the world was flooded. So what Ganon said at the end of OOT is a tie in to TWW backstory and not LTTP.
Um...well, Zelda is still around, for one. and the LTTP descendants are still around, and they can't be if he killed him in TWW time. So...yea, he probably didn't have time to kill the desendants, what with the War in Hyrule and the Goddesses Descending to flood everything N'all.
Well, perhaps the wouldn't work in a single timeline theory, but it works great in parallel timelines because A) Ganon never actually made that vow in the Child timeline, and B) it explains the absence of any other Sages in WW. And Zelda is still around, sure, but he's searching for her for two reasons: to get her piece of the triforce, and to make good on his promise.
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 06:13 PM
Yeah, Moonman, I was going to say the same thing but that still wouldn't answer this post I put up earlier:
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Yeah but the maidens in LTTP, none of them have any traits of a Goron or a Zora...there all human..and they sure as hell don't have any traits of being a mixed breeded race, like Medli (supposedly)--they all look the same!
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Posted 24 November 2004 - 05:59 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong about any of this, but HA has revealed to us that Ganon is in fact a demon who was apparently captured in the Trident. Who ever wields this Trident will be possessed by the demon and be able to take on a pig form.
With this in mind, it could be explained that the Ganon in ALttP is not Ganondorf, but rather a new victim of the Trident. This victim would of course have to be Agahnim. At the end of the game you defeat Agahnim for a second time and the demon Ganon flees the body to the Pyramid of Power where you finally defeat him.
It seems to me that this would help explain some of the apparent inconsistencies between the games. What do you guys think of this possibility, and do you have any suggestions about how this could effect the rest of the games like LoZ, AoL, and the Oracle games?
I apologize if this theory has already been brought up before.
Why Agahnim, in Alttp comics, Ganon is a thieve dressed like Atila the hun, Agahnim is just a dress he used to disguise from all the people
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Posted 25 November 2004 - 03:20 AM
Why Agahnim, in Alttp comics, Ganon is a thieve dressed like Atila the hun, Agahnim is just a dress he used to disguise from all the people
The creator of Masked Rider wrote the comic, and it is clearly a non-canon source. Also the comic had Agahnim as a pawn to Ganon, not a disguise of himself. Still though I am going to give my thoughts on this pretty much pure sweet and simple.....Ganondorf and Ganon are one in the same.
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The creator of Masked Rider wrote the comic, and it is clearly a non-canon source. Also the comic had Agahnim as a pawn to Ganon, not a disguise of himself. Still though I am going to give my thoughts on this pretty much pure sweet and simple.....Ganondorf and Ganon are one in the same.
Got evidence to support that claim? Other than just an opinion?
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Posted 25 November 2004 - 06:16 AM
Got evidence to support that claim? Other than just an opinion?
Well really I didn't feel like repeating something that has already been said. What is the use really, but still in the A link to the Past manual it clearly states that Ganondorf was but a thief, and then gained full power of the Triforce and became Ganon. Some of the seven maidens have also made claim to this as well, and everything that I have said has already been stated, so basically you made me write all of this stuff for no apparent reason and now I am mad. (just kidding, really I like explaining myself as I have more to say anyways)
That right there is about as conclusive evidence as your going to get, well that and the fact that Ganondorf transforms into Ganon at the end of the Ocarina of Time. Oh but then people go on about how in Hyrulean Adventure of how Ganon is referred to as the "Demon Reborn". Oh man, I have nothing else to say now, they must be different people then, but wait a minute, didn't Rauru call Ganondorf the "Evil Incarnate", hmmmm something to think about there, wouldn't you agree.
