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#1 TSA

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 03:34 PM

EGM: What about that clip where Link is boxing a Goron?

EA: All I can tell you is that the Gorons won't be the Gorons from the Ocarina of Time.

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 03:45 PM

Evil Gorons? Yay. Loz/Aol placement seems likely.

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 06:23 PM

Okay, I've given up any hope that this is TWW Link.

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 07:19 PM

^ same as above. This is now probably some unknown link and I HATE that idea, but at least it's a hint.

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 07:50 PM

It must go in my secret place for it, which I will now make known: after TMC.

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 08:38 PM

Strange thought just came to me, but what if where a remake to HF and AOL combined, coming from anther contry, a lot space and big feilds. Would be very interesting to see. Wonder what we would do timline wise if they announced it was, then changed key bits like the MS and who has the triforce at the begining.

What would you do? Agree and place it as HF and AOL and take them out of the timeline, or ignore what they say and put it somwhere else, i have very little faith in my rash idea, but i'd like to see what effect it has on the community.

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 09:03 PM

But that wouldn't make any sense at all. Besides, in the very first interview I read, Aonuma said that this was not a remake.

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 09:39 PM

ah thats good to know, i just suddenly had a bad feeling

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:49 AM

All I can tell you is that the Gorons won't be the Gorons from the Ocarina of Time





Great! The Gorons have always had the warrior trait about them so I hope we will see more of that. They have so far been portrayed in games as rather peaceful, but I guess it is unwise to anger a Goron. ;) They did fight the Gerudos before OoT.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 04:24 AM

Has anybody noticed the similarities between the sword in Legend of Zelda 2005 and the sword on the Adventure of Link title screen?

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 04:53 AM

Maybe it's ... pre OoT and the Fierce Wars are going on between the races of Hyrule...

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:55 AM

The only thing it really says to me is that it isn't close to OoT chronologically.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:56 AM

Maybe it's ... pre OoT and the Fierce Wars are going on between the races of Hyrule...

That is exactly what I originally thought it would be until I was told about it being a WW sequal. Now that that is finished, I wouldn't be suprised if this game follows Links father in the fierce wars and introduces Ganon for when he first emerges as a king. Maybe at the end, instead of Ganon being trapped or killed, he simply swears alegence to the King of Hyrule (ala early OoT). Still, I dont know how likely that would be. Hmmmmmmmm. Would make such a cool game though. I can see it now, a Malon like character with 2 sons, Talon and Ingo as kids. Oh, just remembered, the game already features an Ingo like charachter. Maybe he could be the dad? Just grasping at straws here. :whistle:

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:57 AM

You know, that rather indistinct sword hilt form the screenshot with the doshin looking thing really looked purple to me.
I'd rather like this to be a TMC prequel.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 09:24 AM

That is exactly what I originally thought it would be until I was told about it being a WW sequal. Now that that is finished, I wouldn't be suprised if this game follows Links father in the fierce wars and introduces Ganon for when he first emerges as a king. Maybe at the end, instead of Ganon being trapped or killed, he simply swears alegence to the King of Hyrule (ala early OoT). Still, I dont know how likely that would be. Hmmmmmmmm. Would make such a cool game though. I can see it now, a Malon like character with 2 sons, Talon and Ingo as kids. Oh, just remembered, the game already features an Ingo like charachter. Maybe he could be the dad? Just grasping at straws here.   :whistle:  

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And feature Link's mom and dad dropping him off in the Kokiri forest whilst Link Sr. protects the world from some Sheikah person? That would be cool.

We know Sheikahs and Gorons are in it. Both evil, perhaps?

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 10:44 AM

That is exactly what I originally thought it would be until I was told about it being a WW sequal. Now that that is finished, I wouldn't be suprised if this game follows Links father in the fierce wars and introduces Ganon for when he first emerges as a king. Maybe at the end, instead of Ganon being trapped or killed, he simply swears alegence to the King of Hyrule (ala early OoT). Still, I dont know how likely that would be.


Yes, that would be great, but as you say, that wouldn't actually be a sequel.

Perhaps this is the Imprisoning War, as ALttP comes after WW, OoT wasn't really much of an Imprisoning War, in Hyrule Adventure Ganon was sealed in a sword and not the Golden War... then again, the Master Sword wasn't forged after WW but before OoT... unless there are two Master Swords!

All of this just goes to prove my hunch that there is no real single timeline and that the only reason you can see a real single timeline is because the guys at Nintendo are trying the best to make Zelda fans happy but failing miserably at it.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 05:49 PM

Or maybe the plot will make no sense and clash with several other previus games and destroy nearly every fan's timeline, and will leave many plot holes open that'll never be tied in any future game.

This has happened with both TWW (sorta) and even more so with FSA, Satan and Nintendo's lovechild. Seriously, ever since Miyamoto left, the series has been declining dramticly, timeline-wise and everything else-wise.

Although, I could be just paranoid and when Arouma says "I don't know where this game takes place" he was lying and he knows exactl where this takes place and will please all of us. Anyone else notice whenever game designers are being vague that they have a secret we don't learn about until E3 or something like it? 'Cause that's happened.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 06:55 PM

ever since Miyamoto left


He didn't O_o he just has more guys to work with.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 07:28 PM

It must go in my secret place for it, which I will now make known: after TMC.

Disprove time! ^^ the gorons in MC (they can be seen after a series of fusing kinstones, and they don't fight you, infact, they just break a wall FOR you, kinda nice of them really. These new ones were no where near nice, so being after MC has very little chance of happening. (oh yeah, there was also a traveling merchant-type goron as well, and he doesn't fight, so, ha! :P )

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 07:29 PM

He didn't O_o he just has more guys to work with.

Well, you know what I mean. He's not in complete charge of the series anymore.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 07:35 PM

Can I go against the grain and say I find this all rather futile, wait till E3, and the storyline details will be laid down for us to specualte on...

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 07:56 PM

Yes, that would be great, but as you say, that wouldn't actually be a sequel.

I don't think they are sticking to the sequal thing anymore.

Pre-WW: WW will be before all other Zelda games
WW: Set after OoT

Pre-Z05: Will be WW2
Now: We haven't decided
Z05: ??? (Could be anything)

Come to think of it, WW was supposed to be a prequal of all games but was a sequal to the last game. This was supposed to be a sequal to the last game, so maybe it's a prequal to all games :lol:

Actually, I think I'll make a thread on this, as it's OT to this one.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:17 PM

If the Gorons are intended to be evil in the new game, which frankly this new information deosn't really confirm (by them not being the OoT Gorons they could just as easily be refereing to them being the Wind Waker Gorons, or the Oracle of Ages Gorons), then it would be more ammunition for this game connecting up with aLttP - since apparently the deadrocks from aLttP have been renamed Gorons at some point.

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Posted 05 May 2005 - 08:41 AM

Pre-WW: WW will be before all other Zelda games
WW: Set after OoT

Actually, Pre-WW: WW will happen near the beginning.
After WW: Set after OOT, before every other Zelda released up to that point besides MM.

There isn't any contradiction.

Pre-Z05: Will be WW2
Now: We haven't decided
Z05: ??? (Could be anything)

And, actually...

Now: We haven't decided the ending.

And I don't see how this news about the Goron proves that this game isn't related to WW. :s: At this point, I'm not expecting a direct sequel anymore, however, that has nothing to do with this information about the Gorons.

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Posted 05 May 2005 - 08:54 AM

Actually, Pre-WW: WW will happen near the beginning.
After WW: Set after OOT, before every other Zelda released up to that point besides MM.

There isn't any contradiction.

No. I'm pretty sure they said WW was originally going to be before all other Zelda games. If I remember correctly, Miyamoto said it would be nice to have a new start or something along those lines (though I might be wrong).


And, actually...

Now: We haven't decided the ending.


Again. No. They have very recently said that they do not intend to disclose when the game is set, and then said that they haven't decided for sure. Read up on your articles. If I had more time I would provide quotes but I'm busy so do your own research.

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Posted 05 May 2005 - 06:42 PM

He's not in complete charge of the series anymore.


He never really WAS >.>

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Posted 05 May 2005 - 09:08 PM

Evil Gorons? Yay. Loz/Aol placement seems likely.


An LoZ/AoL placement would make me a very happy lad. Not Gorons from OOT also helps prove its not OOT Link, which makes me even happier. :D Finally either going back to the roots or making a new Link to start clearing some things up I hope.

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 12:27 AM

Hehe, maybe it's just me, but I was more intruiged with the Koji Kondo interview. I need to get this EGM too. As for placement, I dunno. I've given up on attempting to place it. For me it's tentatively after OoT but before WW. I don't really care though. We'll see soon enough.

This interview made me happy.

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 12:30 AM

The game can not be placed until we know all the facts.

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 04:52 AM

Hence, the title, "More clues to the new game's placement". Of course we don't know where it really should go, but then again, we're not even sure where the games that have come out should really go (after all, we all have different ideas).




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