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#151 Raien

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 08:44 AM

The "journey of enlightenment" was a legacy term added to a Japanese-only game. The BS-X games were released in 1997, long after LA.


They were released that late? I should have checked that info earlier... Anyway, the text is an accurate translation all the same.

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 01:00 PM

The back of my LA: DX box (UK) states quite clearly that Link is the Hero from Ocarina of Time.


I would believe, although I would have to check, that that simply means the hero of LA is Link, who was also the hero of OoT. After all, Link is Link.

It's the same way that Smash Bros. Brawl may advertise Link as being 'the hero of Twilight Princess'.

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 01:06 PM

I would believe, although I would have to check, that that simply means the hero of LA is Link, who was also the hero of OoT. After all, Link is Link.

It's the same way that Smash Bros. Brawl may advertise Link as being 'the hero of Twilight Princess'.


I'm afraid that's wrong; sorry but I don't have the box to quote from to explain properly. It actually said that LA continues Link's journey after his adventures in OoT, definitely meaning that this was the same Link as in OoT; not a reincarnation.

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 04:01 PM

Your box is wrong :).

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 05:21 PM

Your box is wrong :).


Exactly. And therefore, game boxes should not be used as canon evidence. They are not reliable.

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 06:14 PM

But your box is not the Japanese one, only the Japanese is reliable

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 06:34 PM

But your box is not the Japanese one, only the Japanese is reliable


Do we have Japanese boxes available to study? Can we guarantee that they are officially scripted?

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 06:59 PM

Is there a picture of this PAL LA DX box anywhere?

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 08:03 PM

Is there a picture of this PAL LA DX box anywhere?


No. I'd quote it for you except the game is at home and I am at college.

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Posted 05 November 2006 - 12:08 PM

No. I'd quote it for you except the game is at home and I am at college.



LA:DX British box
"A portable epic! Link, the hero of the N64 classic, the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of time, has been stranded on the mysterious island of Koholint, far away from his homeland of Hyrule."


Boxes are essentially adverts to sell the game. In the case of European editions of a game I doubt whether the original Japanese box is translated, the text is probably written by a European marketing division.

In Japan the boxes are still essentially marketing tools. Do the games designers take part in the design of the boxes? I do not know, but would assume that they do not.

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Posted 08 November 2006 - 11:43 AM

But your box is not the Japanese one, only the Japanese is reliable


means: if any boxes are going to be used as Canon, it will be the Japanese ones.

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Posted 09 November 2006 - 04:36 PM

I would also like to remind everyone that Link's Awakening DS was released back when Zelda.com was still trying to convince people that there was only one Link.

The factuality of Link being multiple people wasn't part of the series canon at the time, at least not in the non Japanese versions of the game.

Edited by Chaltab, 09 November 2006 - 04:37 PM.


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Posted 09 November 2006 - 06:58 PM

*DX

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Posted 09 November 2006 - 07:32 PM

The factuality of Link being multiple people wasn't part of the series canon at the time, at least not in the non Japanese versions of the game.

NoA simply wasn't informed on the details. Nowadays they're a bit better but it's really just the Japanese sources that are trustworthy.

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Posted 09 November 2006 - 07:35 PM

Er. Yes... :blush:

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Posted 09 November 2006 - 09:03 PM

o.o

Yes indeed.

I was just reiterating, that's all. o.o

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Posted 09 November 2006 - 09:33 PM

He's possibly referring to his spelling mistake...

Edited by Showsni, 09 November 2006 - 09:33 PM.


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Posted 09 November 2006 - 10:55 PM

He's possibly referring to his spelling mistake...


This is correct. Fyxe posted after I'd loaded the page but before I responded.

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 04:31 AM

One only needs to realise when the original LA was released, which was after ALTTP. Now assuming it's safe to say most Zelda fans accept ALTTP to be before LOZ and AOL, then in that context when LA was released, it was the same Link from ALTTP.

I would also like to remind everyone that Link's Awakening DS was released back when Zelda.com was still trying to convince people that there was only one Link.

The factuality of Link being multiple people wasn't part of the series canon at the time, at least not in the non Japanese versions of the game.


Even if Nintendo was trying to convince people there was only one Link, would people really believe that? I mean Ganon dies at the end of ALTTP and prior to this in AOL, we were told that sprinkling Link's blood on his ashes was the only way to ressurect him. Now assuming that Link's blood is referring to him being dead and used in a ressurection-style ritual and not that some enemy could just prick him grab a drop of blood and run for the hills, then ALTTP LInk would have to die for Ganon to come back for LOZ.

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 09:00 AM

Not only that, but at the time ALttP was released, the company line seemed to be that there was indeed multiple Link's and Zelda's - not only the back of the box contained this notion, but so did promotional material and the official players guide.

So multiple Links were part of the canon in the west, then weren't, then were again...




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