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[Hero of Legend]

Yes, there are some of those games that provide a more open-ended experience but in the end the point of The Legend of Zelda games is for you, the player, to take up the role of a hero. That's the premise behind Link whether you think they did a good job of it or not.

Yes, but that doesn't stop them from letting us control his allies, does it? Be glad that I'm not saying "I want to play as Ganondorf!" like the n00bs do... <_<

Plus even in those games you're still guided along the path, no matter whether you're Good or Evil in the original Baldur's Gate that really only effected the side quests and the allies that join you. Ultimately the ending and primary plot remained the same. Only MMORPGs, Pirates! and possibly the Elder Scrolls series (never played them) really grant something along the lines of complete freedom. No matter what we're always limited to some degree, more so in games like Suikoden and The Legend of Zelda but in those games we're supposed to be placed into the restricted role of either the hero leading an army in a rebellion and noble courageous hero facing all odds respectively. We're still playing along with the developer's game in the end, but they are aiming for us to be the "silent protagonist"

KotOR is a pretty free game. Nintendo could do Zelda like that. But they have decided that Link is the Hero, so I guess I will have to accept it (I wouldn't want it another way anyway). And... In most of those games you CAN play as a party member (Assuming that it is an RPG).

Yes, but the point is they provided some sort of explanation for it (and besides... we first used the song on animated statues...) and we never really went through anything from their point of view. Hence we are never really that character. If anything we should be arguing over the Seagull .

True. I won't argue with that.

Link is to Epona as wolf is to Midna. It all started with Ocarina of Time

Hm... You are correct! The only difference is that Midna rides on Link. Seriously, I never expected that Link would become a "horse". But then again, the King of Hyrule did it in TWW...

Makar and Medli were used in puzzles differently though, although Medli's harp and floating technique are better developed than Makar's seeds. Yeah, they both fly but their other features are quite different.

Medli's pussles were good. Makar's sucked. They always opened a gate. The only good ones were those where Link used the Hookshot to grapple his trees.

I actually don't think that's a bad idea, perhaps a dungeon where you need to guide Zelda through it although you never directly control her. In fact I think it's a better idea than controlling her directly. Think ICO, although Shadow Link might be against that .

I am fine with that as long as it isn't a "Protect me while I do this" thing. There is already too many of those. Zelda should be able to defend herself.

Eediots! Even though I agree that Link is the clueless one in this situation, unlike you. Zelda and Ganon are the two static forces. Link is the only one that can turn the battle in the favor of right in the situation, which Zelda DOES NOT ALWAYS DO.

Didn't I just disprove that opinion? And in TWW Gohdan says "Oh chosen one... What will now happen is tied to fate." Meaning that Link is literally chosen (or even sent) by the Goddesses to defeat Ganondorf. But that is another topic...

We're not talking about asking for help. We're talking about opening the SR with Ganon behind him, going after his sister, pulling out the Master Sword which made Ganon all-powerful, ETC...Link isn't perfect. He screws up. He fails...um, a lot!

Yeah. In OoT he pulled the MS and helped Ganondorf. And in TWW he pulled the MS and helped Ganondorf.... Again! He made the same mistake twice? Talk about stupid. Heh. Yeah, they were different Links. But you would think that is the kind of stuff you remember after being reincarnated, eh?

[MikePetersSucks]

But you would think that is the kind of stuff you remember after being reincarnated, eh?

Who said Link reincarnates? I think TWW Link is a seperate individual. It makes his story of coming-to-age that much more satisfying. If his soul was already mature, there'd be no point to the story. And if you say that Link's soul got immature again with the loss of memories, then reincarnation is completely pointless.

[Hero of Legend]

This is way off topic. I was only joking... But whatever.

Who said Link reincarnates?

Ganondorf. As well as other general hints in the games (Including TMC's ending).

(BTW, I include Zelda in this theory.)

I think TWW Link is a seperate individual.

Of course he is. Every Link is different. They only share the same "soul" and fate. They have totally individual lifes.

It makes his story of coming-to-age that much more satisfying. If his soul was already mature, there'd be no point to the story. And if you say that Link's soul got immature again with the loss of memories, then reincarnation is completely pointless.

What is this "mature" story you are talking about? Meh, it doesn't matter. His "soul" in this case is only the "Legendary Hero" part of him. And it is a fact that he knows how to be a Hero from the beginning of every game.

And the entire point of reincarnation is so that Link (and Zelda) can return and defeat Ganon once again. (And even Ganon has been reincarnated once.)

[Koji]

Have any of you ever played SSMB? If you were ever able to control Zelda in a game, that's probably how it'll be. But guess what? I don't wanna BE Zelda. I play LOZ games so that I can be Link. I'm not saying I won't play it if you happen to be Zelda, but I highly doubt that it will be my favorite game ever... Link all the way. Zelda wins best supporting actress.

[Husse]

Ganondorf. As well as other general hints in the games (Including TMC's ending).

(BTW, I include Zelda in this theory.)

Ganondorf is as nutty as they come. And, if you remember, the theme in WW was "live for your future, don't live in your past." I think the purpose of that was to illustrate that Tetra was not the same as the Zelda King remembered, and neither was Link. He was the hero, true, but "reincarnated" or not, he was a new, different person, with a 10-year old's brain, unlike OoT Link.

Boy, I can't believe I'm using this comparison, I hate the show, but , *sigh* it's like Kikio and Kagome from Inuyasha. Different people, even if it's considered reincarnation.

[Hero of Legend]

Ganondorf is as nutty as they come.

Ignoring in-game facts, eh? No matter if Ganondorf is crazy (I don't think so) his statement was still placed there by the creators. It was intended. Also, there are many other small statements on this matter in TWW. And of course, we have the fact that TWW Link looks like the HoT's statue.

When combined, these things prove beyond reasonable doubt that Link is the reincarnation of the HoT.

(Besides, MPS asked for who said it. )

And, if you remember, the theme in WW was "live for your future, don't live in your past."

No, I don't. Can somebody explain where these "themes" are stated?

I think the purpose of that was to illustrate that Tetra was not the same as the Zelda King remembered, and neither was Link.

We don't know if the King knew Zelda. But what we do know is THIS.

You, too, must abide by the laws of the past...and so the time has come for me to teach you the fate into which you were born, the very reason that you live.

Her fate was to be Zelda. Maybe this is because she is the reincarnation of Zelda?

As for Link, the King never knew the HoT... But he says that Link is THE (as in "the one and only") Hero.

He was the hero, true, but "reincarnated" or not, he was a new, different person, with a 10-year old's brain, unlike OoT Link.

Yes, he is a new person. We don't know the details of reincarnation in Hyrule. But it is clear that you don't remember your past life(s).

And I am pretty sure that OoT Link had a "10-year old's brain" as well... (During OoT and MM that is. Not when he died).

[Showsni]

Wind Wakers theme is clearly look forwards. King Daphnes saying he was mistaken to live in the past, and that he wants Tetra and Link to have a future...

As for fate, has anyone played Zelda's Adventure? Several of the shrines have a moral type theme - in the Shrine of Destiny, Zelda is taunted by the end boss that she controls destiny, and Zelda has no choice bu to lose. Shurmak insists that Zelda has free will, though, and can choose her own destiny.

[Husse]

Meaning that Link is literally chosen (or even sent) by the Goddesses to defeat Ganondorf. But that is another topic...

SIGH....YES, he's fated, but he's still clueless! He is a destined hero, but he doesn't KNOW it, so he might as well be the butterfly thrown between static forces in this equation. I'm not denying his fate, I'm just saying he screw up and is fairly clueless until the end. LOOK at WW, for crying out loud. Wouldn't you agree?

Heh. Yeah, they were different Links. But you would think that is the kind of stuff you remember after being reincarnated, eh?

Well, that's a touchy topic. We don't know that reincarnation means the same in Hyrule as it does here, and even here, he DEFINITELY wouldn't remember anything. Reincarnation, I think, is supposed to entail your spirit or soul, not your mind or (obviously,) your body at all. So, eh, not real answerable.

(I know those topics were old, I'd just ignored them the first time through.)

And of course, we have the fact that TWW Link looks like the HoT's statue.

WHAT? That makes no sense. Even if he did look like WW Link, which he doesn't, that wouldn't mean anything, because WE know what the HoT looks like, and he doesn't have anything physical-wise to do with WW Link.

*cocks head sideways, examining a pic*

I think he looks like a Cel-shaded OoT Link. Nothing like WW Link at all.

No, I don't. Can somebody explain where these "themes" are stated?

*cracks knuckles*

For ONE thing, there was the very art style suggesting that theme. The art style was new, the world was tropical, nothing terribly reminiscent off the bat of Zelda at all. In fact, if you remember, this Celda concept pissed off quite a few people. Definitely a bold step into newness. Nevertheless, that's not story-related, so I'll continue.

We also had the appearance of a lazy, not-too-enthusiastic Link. YES, this can be debated, but my first impressions of this character were totally askew to those of OoT Link. This kid did not want to be a hero. Still, that's also pretty small.

The BIG character shift was Tetra/Zelda. Almost nothing like the Zeldas before her, but still instantly recognizable as the bad-girl princess...in a different light. I mean, here we have, instead of a curt, proper princess, a curt, rowdy one. Instead of being frail, she's eh...kinda stocky. And even as a direct stab to the pale princesses of yesteryear, this chick is TAN. I mean, Tetra was very different, no doubt.

There were also no Zora, Kokiri, and the Gorons were all but extinct. Hylians had now diffused into the occasional pointy-eared old human, and nothing in Hyrule was quite the same. The only thing reminiscent of that proper, medieval, golden age was the proper, medieval, King of Hyrule. So what did he represent? The past. And what had happened to it. It had gone down the toilet.

If you think about it, Daphnes was a very selfish man. He had refused to give up his kingdom or (just a little IMO, this is a bit unexplained,) his life. In my view, Daphnes was a ghost. You saw the way he acted. He never touched anyone, and no one touched him, except when exhibiting ghost-like behavior. Vanishing, possessing stuff, etc. His entire life was devoted to his kingdom. So he sent Link on his quest to "save his sister," but we learn he had some other things in mind, of course. Things he doesn't tell Link until he's trapped into doing them for Tetra's sake and the sake of his history.

Speaking of Tetra, when the King changes her into Zelda, she undergoes RADICAL change. The devil-may-care attitude is OUT THE WINDOW, and even her skin pales. This is good...sort of...but King is still trying to raise his kingdom from the dead at the expense of two kids.

And finally, our turning point key of evidence...his shpeel at the end. When he realizes the children's lives are more important than his dreams of glory, and willingly accepts the consequences of his actions by going down with the ship. He WAS the same as Ganondorf. He was bound to Hyrule and everything in it. If you look at his manner of speaking and Ganondorf's, there's actually a pretty striking corrolary. The next land, he happily admonishes, some of his last words, will not be Hyrule. It will be a new land.

*end cheesy shpeel*

That wrap it up for ya? Everything in that game echoed the theme here, the future. Actually, there are prominent themes in every Zelda game, wouldn't you agree? That's why each one feels really different. The gameplay hasn't changed hardly at all, and the graphics really very little. It's the MESSAGES that mess up your subconscious and let you pick favorites half the time.

[Hero of Legend]

SIGH....YES, he's fated, but he's still clueless! He is a destined hero, but he doesn't KNOW it, so he might as well be the butterfly thrown between static forces in this equation. I'm not denying his fate, I'm just saying he screw up and is fairly clueless until the end. LOOK at WW, for crying out loud. Wouldn't you agree?

And you say that Zelda knew her destiny in TWW?

Well, that's a touchy topic. We don't know that reincarnation means the same in Hyrule as it does here, and even here, he DEFINITELY wouldn't remember anything. Reincarnation, I think, is supposed to entail your spirit or soul, not your mind or (obviously,) your body at all. So, eh, not real answerable.

I was only joking when I said that, but you are correct. We don't know exactly what reincarnation is in Hyrule. We only know that it occurs. Nonetheless, the people who are stated to be reincarnated do not remember their previous life, so we can assume that memories don't carry over.

WHAT? That makes no sense. Even if he did look like WW Link, which he doesn't, that wouldn't mean anything, because WE know what the HoT looks like, and he doesn't have anything physical-wise to do with WW Link.

*cocks head sideways, examining a pic*

I think he looks like a Cel-shaded OoT Link. Nothing like WW Link at all.

Heh heh heh... And how do you explain his change of clothes and hairstyle? Obviously the creators intended him to look like an older version of TWW Link. Saying that he doesn't look like Link is like saying that the people in the painting doesn't look like the pirates.

We also had the appearance of a lazy, not-too-enthusiastic Link. YES, this can be debated, but my first impressions of this character were totally askew to those of OoT Link. This kid did not want to be a hero. Still, that's also pretty small.

That is funny... Because I remember him willingly going to rescue Tetra, and then risking his life for his sister... As for him being lazy... Well, that is not very different from OoT Link.

Hello, Link! Wake up! The Great Deku Tree wants to talk to you! Link, get up! Hey! C'mon! Can Hyrule's destiny really depend on such a lazy boy?

The BIG character shift was Tetra/Zelda. Almost nothing like the Zeldas before her, but still instantly recognizable as the bad-girl princess...in a different light. I mean, here we have, instead of a curt, proper princess, a curt, rowdy one. Instead of being frail, she's eh...kinda stocky. And even as a direct stab to the pale princesses of yesteryear, this chick is TAN. I mean, Tetra was very different, no doubt.

Tetra is Sheik. Simple as that. It is simply a continuation of what OoT started.

Speaking of Tetra, when the King changes her into Zelda, she undergoes RADICAL change. The devil-may-care attitude is OUT THE WINDOW, and even her skin pales. This is good...sort of...but King is still trying to raise his kingdom from the dead at the expense of two kids.

Yes and no. Tetra true identity is a part of TWW's plot. Therefore she cannot look like Zelda. That is why we have this "transforming" thing.

But contrary to popular belief, her personality does not change. She is obviously in shock after the King revealed her fate. Who wouldn't be? Therefore she acts differently. Nevertheless, she is clearly the same girl as she was before her transformation during the final battle (BTW, Zelda's "I'm sorry" speech originated in OoT).

As for the King, he doesn't do anything more than he has to. All that happened after Link pulled the MS was tied to fate. Both Gohdan and the King says so.

And finally, our turning point key of evidence...his shpeel at the end. When he realizes the children's lives are more important than his dreams of glory, and willingly accepts the consequences of his actions by going down with the ship. He WAS the same as Ganondorf. He was bound to Hyrule and everything in it. If you look at his manner of speaking and Ganondorf's, there's actually a pretty striking corrolary. The next land, he happily admonishes, some of his last words, will not be Hyrule. It will be a new land.

The King never says that he wishes to revive Hyrule. That is your fan fiction. During the entire game he struggles to defeat Ganondorf and create a future for the world.

And the new land could very well be Hyrule. As you said, the King was bound to HIS Hyrule. That is why he doesn't come with Zelda and Link to find New Hyrule.

[Husse]

And you say that Zelda knew her destiny in TWW?

No, but she still has a more prominent place as "the good side" than Link because she protects her kingdom and, well, even when she was a pirate, she epitomized good. She kinda stuck out like a sore thumb among her crew in the kidnapping of the Bomb Shop owner. But I will agree with you that Zelda's stereotypical role was kinda turned on its ear in WW...harbinger, perhaps?

Heh heh heh... And how do you explain his change of clothes and hairstyle?

*laughs* What? That's art style, not hairstyle. OoT Link's hair wasn't different constitutionally from WW Link's, just stylized differently. WW Link's was poofier, but the way it hung out of his hat was just the same. You may have a point with clothing, though, I'll have to see a pic of the tunic...

And even then, why on earth would the game creators make him look like WW Link when he's OoT Link? Makes no sense, and on first look, I never even thought he resembled the present hero. I mean, logically, why WOULD he even?

That is funny... Because I remember him willingly going to rescue Tetra, and then risking his life for his sister... As for him being lazy... Well, that is not very different from OoT Link.

Like I said, this is Link, and this is my interpretation, so it can definitely be debated. AND Navi wasn't commenting on Link being lazy in truth, she was referring to him sleeping late, and we all know he had an excuse. He was having a heckuva nightmare. All I'm saying is Link in WW doesn't seem to like the idea of the hero stuff, and, judging by what others say about him, isn't quite the hero-wannabe that OoT Link was. I mean, he hates the shpeel about the sword n' shield, he hates the outfit, and seems to be revered as the "cute kid that lives here."

OoT Link has been badgered all his life by Mido and some of the other kids, and even those not bugging him are weirded out by him not having a fairy. He has a somber demeanor, and, as Saria puts it, she knows he is meant to leave. I mean, he definitely has the motivation, don't you think? Now this is mostly conjecture, but there is one little spike to this theory that's entirely factual. Etched at the bottom of Link's willow tree is a rough carving of a knight destroying a monster. If that isn't somebody's dreams of heroism, I don't know what is. The designers probably put that in there as an insight to character, that's the only reason I can think of.

Tetra is Sheik. Simple as that. It is simply a continuation of what OoT started

That's a copout. A big one. Tetra is Tetra. Zelda didn't decide to become a transvestite after the game ended, okay? Sheik was a disguise and a deception, not one I'm sure she particularly enjoyed. Tetra was herself, born thinking she was a dirty vagabond, but feeling a deep sense of right and wrong that didn't fit in the job description. When she became Zelda, chances are good she was given a deeper purpose to her life, but as is the case, Zelda the princess, while necessary to switch over to, was not who she was. She was Tetra the pirate, something that further illustrates my point, thanks for that.

But contrary to popular belief, her personality does not change. She is obviously in shock after the King revealed her fate. Who wouldn't be? Therefore she acts differently. Nevertheless, she is clearly the same girl as she was before her transformation during the final battle.

Yes and no. I agree that her personality does not change, otherwise, what's the point of a story about a different hero, different princess, different world, the theme I was talking about? Yes, she's in shock, no, it doesn't directly affect her personality, but yes, it changes her ATTITUDE. Attitude and personality are two different things. Tetra knew she had a desire for treasure, a desire for history, and, oddly enough, a desire for right over wrong. This changed her in a way. She had a purpose, so instead of being a rowdy care-for-nothing loudmouth, she became a rowdy care-for-SOMETHING loudmouth. She was still Tetra, deep down, but knowing her purpose gave her something beyond herself to live for, verdad? That was my point.

(BTW, Zelda's "I'm sorry" speech originated in OoT).

Where's that? I thought something was very similar in that cutscene, but not word for word. *Hums Zelda's Lullaby* That was an awesome remix dere.

As for the King, he doesn't do anything more than he has to. All that happened after Link pulled the MS was tied to fate. Both Gohdan and the King says so.

Attitude again. No matter if he was fated to do it, King wasn't going through all that trouble to help Link become a "special person." If he was he would've sought Link out from the crib and told him sooner about his destiny, not disillusioned him into thinking he was JUST saving his sister. King cared about Link's fate only because it entailed the fate of his kingdom. He wanted Hyrule back. He wasn't a villain, certainly, but his motives were less than sparkling. I mean, in the game, were you ever annoyed by King's pushy audacity? That was attitude pissing you off. That's what makes everyone hate Tatl, too. Navi is just annoying because she has no personality and won't shut up. See the difference?

The King never says that he wishes to revive Hyrule. That is your fan fiction. During the entire game he struggles to defeat Ganondorf and create a future for the world.

Noooo, that's YOUR fanfiction. Observe:

"If only I could do things over again. Not a day goes by without my thoughts returning to my kingdom of old. I lived bound to Hyrule. In that sense...I was the same as Ganondorf."

"But you...I want you...to live for the future."

(Couldn't find the actual text, just going from memory.)

Compare this to his snappish attitude earlier, making Tetra into Zelda, talking about his kingdom ALL the FRIGGIN TIME, and, here's the biggest clincher, refusing to tell Link a lot of the truth until he was trapped into his new quest. (I'm not saying Link was trapped as in unwilling and forced, that'd make King evil, I'm saying trapped as in he gave him an offer he couldn't refuse.)

I think it's safe to say that King didn't want to end this tale with "Oh goody, Ganondorf's gone! I'll just leave my people stranded on the sea, and float around the ocean some more! Go on home, Link! We stopped evil today, and that makes me feel spiffy! Honestly, WHY would he go through all that trouble. JUST to stop Ganondorf and save the world? Nooooo, to stop Ganondorf and save HYRULE. That's why the ending is emotional. If King was always going around ensuring happiness for the world, we wouldn't have been surprised at all by his decision in the end. It was because he realized, (now, this next part IS fanfiction, I'm just going by stereotypical character assumation here...) after Zelda's capture, that these children and their future was more important than the moldy old kingdom he wanted to revive. This was further illustrated by his wish being parallel to Ganondorf's. Ganondorf, BOUND to HYRULE as was KING, didn't wish for the world. He wished for Hyrule. And what makes King a good guy is that he didn't.

And the new land could very well be Hyrule. As you said, the King was bound to HIS Hyrule. That is why he doesn't come with Zelda and Link to find New Hyrule.

*slaps self* TALK about FANFICTION!

Zelda: "Wait! You...could...come with us! We have a boat! We can find it! Yes! We will find it! The land that will be the next Hyrule! ......So....."

Zelda is still trying to please the King. Part of her purpose, she's trying to stay tied to her kingdom. Little fanfic here, but I think it can be considered obvious, right?

The King stares at her with a sad look. Remember his neutral face? It was angry, stalwart. This one isn't. This is sad for him, then, because his expression has softened. (I just threw that in in case you said, "You're imagining things, he always has the same expression." Look at pics, you can see a difference. A difference that had to be animated by gamemakers, meaning on purpose.)

Then he spreads a big smile. The bitterness has apparently flown out the window. This is acceptance.

"Ah...but child...that land...will not be Hyrule..."

......................................

"It will be YOUR LAND!"

(This land is my land, sorry, always have a tendency to do that.)

Anyway, the King was expressing, I stress, the theme of the story. His kingdom was no longer important, and whatever land they found, whether geographically Hyrule, or whatever your theory is, would be theirs, and their future's.

*end rant...again*

[monique]

Eiji stated in an interview that saving Zelda is not the mainthing in TP.


Hey another question.
Why are you implying Zelda being weak towards Ganon if he has the triforce of power?" Well I wouldn't know what the rest of the hyliangirls would be like.

[Koroks Rock]

I believe that the best way for zelda to truely grow as a strong female character would be to let the player play as her, in the form of memories. Remember that Tetra had her own little story in TWW, which split for some time from Link's. When i first played through the game (and still a little bit in the second play through), i genuinely hoped i'd be able to talk to her and get to see, from her perspective, what it was like to navigate the seas and cross catapults with bokoblin cannons. Perhaps if TP allows zelda to go off on her own path, and then rejoin Link later, we wouldn't have people feeling that she's a nuisance.

Did Tetra's Trackers expand much on her personality? has anyone gotten to play that? From what i understand she's still a guide of sorts, but surely a game with her name will go into some depth regarding her...

[Husse]

Well, I dunno, I think it isn't so important for Zelda's character to be expanded on at all, considering that the Legend of Zelda isn't even her STORY, it's LINK'S, and she's passing it down. She's just the thing, along with Ganon, that spurns him down the road to destiny.

[monique]

Well, I dunno, I think it isn't so important for Zelda's character to be expanded on at all, considering that the Legend of Zelda isn't even her STORY, it's LINK'S, and she's passing it down. She's just the thing, along with Ganon, that spurns him down the road to destiny.

That thing, Isn't that the whole meaning of the legend of Zelda?

ZHQ2 TSA

I think that holds some truth with Zelda. I think every game revolves around Princess Zelda. No, she is not in every game. I understand that. However, every game that happens is a direct result of something Princess Zelda did, or the backstory of the game involves her. For whatever reason, it always seems to be that Princess Zelda is the key. In Oracles, she is the key to reviving Ganon. In The Minish Cap, she is the source of the Light Force. In The Wind Waker, she is the last in the bloodline of all that remains of Hyrule. Link will always arise whenever evil appears, Ganondorf is always behind the Triforce of Power being stolen, but Princess Zelda is Hyrule. Hyrule is the land of Zelda, and its princess is Zelda. Notice how in the legends in each game, Link is simply known as the "Hero", Ganondorf is known as some "Evil", but Zelda is always mentioned by name. She is eternal, and she is the soul of Hyrule, just like the Child Like Empress was the embodiment of Fantasia. She may not physically appear in every game, but her spirit is present nevertheless.

[dcLx]

Then I realized that you were talking about the character rather than the franchise.

Same with me LoL

But its all because of the special guardians Link has...

-Deku Tree
-Navi
-The Seals

A lot more other people I forgot...

But the only game where Zelda showed her magic powers was SSBM right?..

[MK.]

Zelda is an innocent Princess [as a child]

Grown up, she's much more kickass.

Note: I do not consider Tetra to be a "Princess Zelda"

[monique]

Same with me LoL

But its all because of the special guardians Link has...

-Deku Tree
-Navi
-The Seals

A lot more other people I forgot...

But the only game where Zelda showed her magic powers was SSBM right?..

Uhm I don't know if opening a gate while raising your hands in the air is magic.
And a lightball to atake Ganon..

Uhm yea... >_>

[Husse]

Tetra's not Zelda? Course she is...just...a DIFFERENT one, yeah.

[Hylian]

Zelda doesn't suck that bad in SSB:M, 'cause I beat Giga-Bowser as her.

Edited by Hylian, 25 January 2006 - 11:04 PM.