First off, can we really take this immature spammer, MarioTail# seriously. By the way I agree completely with Alak who is a much more credible source of information.
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The American Center, maybe. They're all pro-corporate, pro-restricted distribution, etc. They endorse Democratic candidates but have many unmistakably Republican ideals. With them geared so much to between the two parties, the many strictly Republican news channels tip the balance in your direction, Hero.
The American Center, maybe. They're all pro-corporate, pro-restricted distribution, etc. They endorse Democratic candidates but have many unmistakably Republican ideals. With them geared so much to between the two parties, the many strictly Republican news channels tip the balance in your direction, Hero.
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 03:38 PM
What Republican news channels, other than FOX News? And even that can be questionable sometimes.
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Remember, Republican, not conservative. Bush-Administration-Lickspittles. FOX, CNBC...
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[quote]Originally posted by Hero of Winds+Sep 24 2004, 09:22 PM-->
QUOTE(Hero of Winds @ Sep 24 2004, 09:22 PM)
[quote]Originally posted by Alak@
Corporate News? I'm afraid not, m8.[/quote]
New York Times, New York Post, CNN, MSNBC... all quite biased to the left.
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Hm... Go here. There is a very extensive report on how "liberally-biased" the media is, according to this independent bipartisan (is that the right word?) group.
And I quote...
[quote]But the parity ends quickly. As we found in two of the earlier studies, Bush continues to benefit more than Gore from press coverage. As outlined above, 24% of Bush stories were positive, nearly double the 13% for Gore.
In contrast, the coverage of Gore was more negative. A full 56% of the Gore stories had a negative tone, compared to 49% for Bush. The remaining stories were neutral.
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Unless Bush is the liberal here, I think I have to disagree with you.
Corporate News? I'm afraid not, m8.[/quote]
New York Times, New York Post, CNN, MSNBC... all quite biased to the left.
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Hm... Go here. There is a very extensive report on how "liberally-biased" the media is, according to this independent bipartisan (is that the right word?) group.
And I quote...
[quote]But the parity ends quickly. As we found in two of the earlier studies, Bush continues to benefit more than Gore from press coverage. As outlined above, 24% of Bush stories were positive, nearly double the 13% for Gore.
In contrast, the coverage of Gore was more negative. A full 56% of the Gore stories had a negative tone, compared to 49% for Bush. The remaining stories were neutral.
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Unless Bush is the liberal here, I think I have to disagree with you.
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 04:23 PM
Just saw the post at teh top of this page.
You have a point there, but figure there's no harm in refuting it.First off, can we really take this immature spammer, MarioTail# seriously.
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I may not be the best debator in these issues,
but I'm pretty darn sure I'm right.
but I'm pretty darn sure I'm right.
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Originally posted by Alakhriveion@Sep 24 2004, 09:41 AM
Yeah, why should he be allowed to say what he wants just because he's "legally" allowed too? Any since when is raping children, burning villages, massacring civilians, and engaging in chemical warfare "criminal?" He's acting like there's some sort of United group of Nations that can just TELL us Americans we can't ravage an entire nation without even a motive?
Questioning leaders isn't "aid and comfort," doing buisness with Hitler, as Bush's family did, is. As for violation of Navy code, I don't know anything much about that, so I can't speak as to the legitimacy of your claims, but assuming they're legit, it's called "Civil Disobidience." Here's a word to look up: Democracy.
I dom't have a problem with it. I just don't think that someone who condones himself, his country, and his fellow soldiers should be president of that same country.
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 04:35 PM
^I think you mean "doesn't condone".
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 04:48 PM
Why not? I mean, if we can't have a leader who disagrees with predecessors, we'll never have change- and stagnant democracy is just a dishonest oligarchy.Originally posted by Bolkonskys Last Stand@Sep 26 2004, 04:33 PM
I dom't have a problem with it. I just don't think that someone who condones himself, his country, and his fellow soldiers should be president of that same country.
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Woo hoo! The heat is on!
The war wages!
And I see I have some people who
agree with me.
Al Gore invented the internet didn't ya
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The war wages!
And I see I have some people who
agree with me.
Al Gore invented the internet didn't ya
all know?
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 04:58 PM
PLEASE, keep your posts relevant...
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 05:02 PM
"John Kerry is no war hero," said Lt. Bob Elder, who commanded a swift boat.
doesn't that say it all?
some hilarious jokesabout kerry:
Have you folks been following the controversy with John Kerry and his service in Vietnam and the Swift Boat campaign? It all took place in Vietnam and now it just won't go away. I was thinking about this — if John Kerry had just ducked the war like everybody else he wouldn't have this trouble." —David Letterman
"The latest issue of GQ magazine, John Kerry talks about what a man should look for in a woman. GQ? If John Kerry is going to talk about what he likes in a woman, shouldn't it be in Fortune or Money magazine?" --Jay Leno
"Vice President Dick Cheney attacked John Kerry. He said that John Kerry 'lacks deeply held convictions.' Today Kerry shot back, he said, 'That's not completely true.'" —Jay Leno
"John Kerry told Tom Ridge he was too busy to receive a Homeland Security briefing. I thought that was odd, since you're not supposed to ignore terrorist threats until after you become president." —David Letterman
"There was an embarrassing moment at a recent Democratic fundraiser. When John Kerry was handed a $10 million dollar check, he said, 'I do.'" —Craig Kilborn
"John Kerry suspended his campaign for five days this week in honor of President Reagan. And right now, he's ahead in the polls. How's that make him feel? Disappears for a week and he's up in the polls. What else can he do now but go into hiding." —Jay Leno
"'Shrek 2' made over $120 million during its first week. In a related story, John Kerry asked Shrek to marry him." —Conan O'Brien
Now anyway, don't get
me wrong pals I don't really have anything against John Kerry at all
other than the fact that he just isn't quite patriotic enough
to be president. And I think these jokes pretty much sum up
his personality overall. But don't get me wrong on THAT either,
to be honest I think a lot of the anti-Bush jokes are hilarious. But sadly
about half of these kerry jokes are about the way it is.
doesn't that say it all?some hilarious jokesabout kerry:
Have you folks been following the controversy with John Kerry and his service in Vietnam and the Swift Boat campaign? It all took place in Vietnam and now it just won't go away. I was thinking about this — if John Kerry had just ducked the war like everybody else he wouldn't have this trouble." —David Letterman
"The latest issue of GQ magazine, John Kerry talks about what a man should look for in a woman. GQ? If John Kerry is going to talk about what he likes in a woman, shouldn't it be in Fortune or Money magazine?" --Jay Leno
"Vice President Dick Cheney attacked John Kerry. He said that John Kerry 'lacks deeply held convictions.' Today Kerry shot back, he said, 'That's not completely true.'" —Jay Leno
"John Kerry told Tom Ridge he was too busy to receive a Homeland Security briefing. I thought that was odd, since you're not supposed to ignore terrorist threats until after you become president." —David Letterman
"There was an embarrassing moment at a recent Democratic fundraiser. When John Kerry was handed a $10 million dollar check, he said, 'I do.'" —Craig Kilborn
"John Kerry suspended his campaign for five days this week in honor of President Reagan. And right now, he's ahead in the polls. How's that make him feel? Disappears for a week and he's up in the polls. What else can he do now but go into hiding." —Jay Leno
"'Shrek 2' made over $120 million during its first week. In a related story, John Kerry asked Shrek to marry him." —Conan O'Brien
Now anyway, don't get
me wrong pals I don't really have anything against John Kerry at all
other than the fact that he just isn't quite patriotic enough
to be president.
And I think these jokes pretty much sum uphis personality overall. But don't get me wrong on THAT either,
to be honest I think a lot of the anti-Bush jokes are hilarious.
But sadlyabout half of these kerry jokes are about the way it is.
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You know Kerry might not be the best (I wanted Wesley Clark) but I don't think he's any less patriotic than Bush. Bush puts up this whole front about being patriotic and such, but does he really care? He sends thousands of troops off to die and doesn't do a dang thing to help them and their families. We're getting a whole 3.5 % raise this year, you know how much that is $50 extra a month. Yet they military news is making such a big deal about how they're doing so much to help us. I know this is not all Bush's falt, its been going on before him and will continue after he leaves. But I just wish he'd stop acting like he's on our side.
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Volunteer, people! Don't join a war organization if you have no intentions of going to war!
Bush isn't sending anybody to their death. The soliders can just flat out not do anything, and there's not a damn thing Bush or anybody else could do about it. These people volunteer to fight, so when Bush says "We're going to war", he, as well as the rest of the country, expects the volunteers to do what they volunteered to do!
Don't want to fight? Don't volunteer. Simple as that. Have money troubles? Search out other options.
Soliders have a choice. Soldiers who die have chosen to fight. Tragic, yes. But war is war, soliders are soliders, and if you volunteer to do something, don't expect to NOT do it!
Bush isn't sending anybody to their death. The soliders can just flat out not do anything, and there's not a damn thing Bush or anybody else could do about it. These people volunteer to fight, so when Bush says "We're going to war", he, as well as the rest of the country, expects the volunteers to do what they volunteered to do!
Don't want to fight? Don't volunteer. Simple as that. Have money troubles? Search out other options.
Soliders have a choice. Soldiers who die have chosen to fight. Tragic, yes. But war is war, soliders are soliders, and if you volunteer to do something, don't expect to NOT do it!
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First, not all soldiers have a choice. Second, no-one expects to be ordered into commiting war crimes. Third, while a soldier must be ready to fight die, it's the government's duty to prevent this at ALL costs. The Iraq war had no legitimate cause, nor did Viet Nam.
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Everyone seems to think that if Bush is re-elected that
we'll re institute a draft.
That is not true. If we elect Kerry THAT is when
we will have a draft. I am not in favor of the draft. People
who don't wanna go to war shouldn't have to. Not only
that but the ones that don't wanna go won't do as well
there anyway.
Democrats want the draft.
I won't stand for this. how bout you?
we'll re institute a draft.
That is not true. If we elect Kerry THAT is when
we will have a draft. I am not in favor of the draft. People
who don't wanna go to war shouldn't have to. Not only
that but the ones that don't wanna go won't do as well
there anyway.
Democrats want the draft.
I won't stand for this.
how bout you?
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actually they don't. Where did you hear this? <_<
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Yes so true. And HoW I keep telling you it’s not a volunteer army but you still keep saying it. Please stop. If one is re-enlisted against their will or brought back into service after they retired, or really forced into joining for socioeconomic reasons then you can't really call them volunteers. I have met very few soldiers in my time that actually willing joined because they want to defend their country. Most are just looking for a way to support their family and the government is just exploiting their situation in life.Originally posted by Alakhriveion@Sep 26 2004, 03:38 PM
First, not all soldiers have a choice. Second, no-one expects to be ordered into commiting war crimes. Third, while a soldier must be ready to fight die, it's the government's duty to prevent this at ALL costs. The Iraq war had no legitimate cause, nor did Viet Nam.
And MarioTail, Kerry has never said he would want a draft, only Bush's administration has talked about that.
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Nobody is ever reinstating the draft. Please get that through your heads, people.
This is simple. Volunteer means you joined of your own free will. I'm quite aware that people enlist because of money troubles, but they still have a choice. They can CHOOSE to enlist or not enlist, and that's the important part.
As for being brought back into service... I'll give you that, that isn't volunteering. But my original point still stands.
Originally posted by mysticdragon13
And HoW I keep telling you it’s not a volunteer army but you still keep saying it. Please stop. If one is re-enlisted against their will or brought back into service after they retired, or really forced into joining for socioeconomic reasons then you can't really call them volunteers. I have met very few soldiers in my time that actually willing joined because they want to defend their country. Most are just looking for a way to support their family and the government is just exploiting their situation in life.
This is simple. Volunteer means you joined of your own free will. I'm quite aware that people enlist because of money troubles, but they still have a choice. They can CHOOSE to enlist or not enlist, and that's the important part.
As for being brought back into service... I'll give you that, that isn't volunteering. But my original point still stands.
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Originally posted by Alakhriveion@Sep 26 2004, 06:38 PM
First, not all soldiers have a choice. Second, no-one expects to be ordered into commiting war crimes. Third, while a soldier must be ready to fight die, it's the government's duty to prevent this at ALL costs. The Iraq war had no legitimate cause, nor did Viet Nam.
Alak's right here. No one joins the army to commit WAR CRIMES.
And yes, the draft will not be reinstated, due to the fact that no one today would actually follow the draft laws.
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[quote]Originally posted by Hero of Winds+Sep 26 2004, 05:00 PM-->
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Nobody is ever reinstating the draft. Please get that through your heads, people.
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No, we just think that a large number of you are arrogant toss pots, especially your President. (Then again, according to a survey done by the Times, many Americans think we are British are left-wing, war-dodging toffs). I actually like quite a lot of you guys and I'm sure that a large number of you are American.
Don't bother wastying your energy. I've already provided evidence to show that the media wasn't liberally biased, by showing how biased towards Bush the media was during the 2000 elections.
Gore actually said he founded the Internet, because he was the one who set aside the funds to get it developed into the Internet. Usually people who pay for projects say they founded things, because they provided the foundations for things.
Actually, there are actually sources out there that give credit of the invention of the Internet to CERN in Geneva. (even though they only created the URL and HTML).
Interestingly, history is not absolute proof.
Apparently, after the death of King John in England, there was another King which was not given much mention in the list of Kings. He was King Louis and ruled for only a year afterwards, before the Catholic Church helped a coup against him. Yet nearly all evidence of his existence was conveniently lost.
Everything depends on your viewpoint, so you must listen to all arguments and not just one sides. I listen to the right-wing's arguments and then I see quite a lot of them are lies.
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It depends on what history your talking about. This is quite recent. There's a shitload of documents and papers published from that period. So that stuff is absolute proof =P
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Dude, where are you getting your information. Kerry has said nothing about reinstating the draft. None of the other Democrats have said they want ot. I don't think Bush has said he would want to. And even if someone said they would, it would never happen. The chances are slim to none.Originally posted by SuperMarioTail34@Sep 26 2004, 07:11 PM
Everyone seems to think that if Bush is re-elected that
we'll re institute a draft.
That is not true. If we elect Kerry THAT is when
we will have a draft. I am not in favor of the draft. People
who don't wanna go to war shouldn't have to. Not only
that but the ones that don't wanna go won't do as well
there anyway.
Democrats want the draft.
I won't stand for this.
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[quote]Originally posted by SuperMarioTail34+Sep 24 2004, 11:19 AM-->
QUOTE(SuperMarioTail34 @ Sep 24 2004, 11:19 AM)
Why is it that democrats always get accuzed of
being traitors? There has to be truth in it, buddy. [/b][/quote]
...I've never heard of democracts being accused as traitors. And just because something is repeated on television, it doesn't mean its true. This goes for both sides.
[quote]Originally posted by SuperMarioTail34@Sep 24 2004, 11:22 AM
THE U.S.A is not evil. Nazis=Evil jackasses.
Americans=Warriors for Good like G.I. Joe.
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Hmm. I wonder...did you ask anyone that lives anywhere outside the US? Or anyone whose not originally American? Ask any sane person in the Middle East, they'll tell you that America needs to be stopped. Go to Britain, Europe, China, Russia, Asia...you'll find very few people that tell you America are 'warriors for good'.
[quote]By the way that add comparing Bush to Hitler,
was a dumb move by the democrats.
Democrats=Demonic Rats.
And anyway even if you liberals think our country
is wrong it's still our country life or death so you
have to support the war.
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So what if its your country? Just because some president wants this war for his own reasons, doesn't mean everyone has to support it. It brings no gain at all to the American people. Security? What security. Iraq was completely and utterly contained by UN sanctions. It couldn't even launch any attack against the US military, what few missiles they launched during the war horribly mis-fired and rarely hit their target.
[quote]Can't take these girly men anymore.
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Watch the insults.
[quote]Originally posted by SuperMarioTail34@Sep 24 2004, 03:48 PM
Well, to be honest I think John Kerry is making us focus on his
war record because he is making it the center of his
campaign.
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Bush made it a focus, not Kerry. Kerry is not proud of what he did, why would he make it a focus? Bush is the one that is proud for things he didn't do. It happened all the way back when Bush announced that the 'war was over' when he flew the military plane in military uniform onto a military ship.
[quote]Originally posted by SuperMarioTail34@Sep 24 2004, 04:07 PM
I'm sorry my sentences and margins were absurd.
I don't usually use capital letters. I thought it would get
my point across.
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Stop hitting enter after every sentence. Its annoying. And stop using smilies after every ten words. That also is annoying.
[quote]Originally posted by SuperMarioTail34@Sep 24 2004, 04:07 PM
I'm sorry guys, but the conservatives are the disentors.
This media is largely liberal, haven't you noticed? CNN stands
for Communist News Network. sorry guys it's true.
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Why is it true? Because you say it is? CNN communist? That's like Hitler was an angel sent by God to protect humanity.
[quote]Originally posted by Ganondorf@Sep 24 2004, 04:26 PM
First off, can we really take this immature spammer, MarioTail# seriously. By the way I agree completely with Alak who is a much more credible source of information.
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Watch the insults.
[quote]Originally posted by SuperMarioTail34@Sep 26 2004, 05:52 PM
Al Gore invented the internet didn't ya
all know?
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Whats the point? And what has this got to do with anything?
And yes, Gore 'invented' the internet. He sat in is comfy chair one day and just came up with it. The people at DARPA will eat your head off if you say that to their faces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET
http://en.wikipedia....of_the_Internet
Read. Educate yourself. Not everything on TV is true, even if it's repeated over and over again.
being traitors? There has to be truth in it, buddy. [/b][/quote]
...I've never heard of democracts being accused as traitors. And just because something is repeated on television, it doesn't mean its true. This goes for both sides.
[quote]Originally posted by SuperMarioTail34@Sep 24 2004, 11:22 AM
THE U.S.A is not evil. Nazis=Evil jackasses.
Americans=Warriors for Good like G.I. Joe.
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Hmm. I wonder...did you ask anyone that lives anywhere outside the US? Or anyone whose not originally American? Ask any sane person in the Middle East, they'll tell you that America needs to be stopped. Go to Britain, Europe, China, Russia, Asia...you'll find very few people that tell you America are 'warriors for good'.
[quote]By the way that add comparing Bush to Hitler,
was a dumb move by the democrats.
Democrats=Demonic Rats.
And anyway even if you liberals think our country
is wrong it's still our country life or death so you
have to support the war.
[/quote]
So what if its your country? Just because some president wants this war for his own reasons, doesn't mean everyone has to support it. It brings no gain at all to the American people. Security? What security. Iraq was completely and utterly contained by UN sanctions. It couldn't even launch any attack against the US military, what few missiles they launched during the war horribly mis-fired and rarely hit their target.
[quote]Can't take these girly men anymore.
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Watch the insults.
[quote]Originally posted by SuperMarioTail34@Sep 24 2004, 03:48 PM
Well, to be honest I think John Kerry is making us focus on his
war record because he is making it the center of his
campaign.
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Bush made it a focus, not Kerry. Kerry is not proud of what he did, why would he make it a focus? Bush is the one that is proud for things he didn't do. It happened all the way back when Bush announced that the 'war was over' when he flew the military plane in military uniform onto a military ship.
[quote]Originally posted by SuperMarioTail34@Sep 24 2004, 04:07 PM
I'm sorry my sentences and margins were absurd.
I don't usually use capital letters. I thought it would get
my point across.
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Stop hitting enter after every sentence. Its annoying. And stop using smilies after every ten words. That also is annoying.
[quote]Originally posted by SuperMarioTail34@Sep 24 2004, 04:07 PM
I'm sorry guys, but the conservatives are the disentors.
This media is largely liberal, haven't you noticed? CNN stands
for Communist News Network.
sorry guys it's true.[/quote]
Why is it true? Because you say it is? CNN communist? That's like Hitler was an angel sent by God to protect humanity.
[quote]Originally posted by Ganondorf@Sep 24 2004, 04:26 PM
First off, can we really take this immature spammer, MarioTail# seriously. By the way I agree completely with Alak who is a much more credible source of information.
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Watch the insults.
[quote]Originally posted by SuperMarioTail34@Sep 26 2004, 05:52 PM
Al Gore invented the internet didn't ya
all know?
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Whats the point? And what has this got to do with anything?
And yes, Gore 'invented' the internet. He sat in is comfy chair one day and just came up with it. The people at DARPA will eat your head off if you say that to their faces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET
http://en.wikipedia....of_the_Internet
Read. Educate yourself. Not everything on TV is true, even if it's repeated over and over again.
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Is it even worth asking? This is the kind of person I'm talking about when I suggest a "Glorious Smackage"...Proof? Sources? Or are you just making it up as you go along?
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The thing is this... there are two sides to everything. In this case, Americans think America is great, where everyone else think we fucking suck.
DISCLAIMER: The above is a generalization. I am perfectly aware that there are Americans who hate America and non Americans who think American is a nation sent by god.
DISCLAIMER: The above is a generalization. I am perfectly aware that there are Americans who hate America and non Americans who think American is a nation sent by god.
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Yes, I think we fucking suck. I think America started sucking 228 years ago.
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Originally posted by Khuffie@Sep 27 2004, 01:11 PM
...I've never heard of democracts being accused as traitors. And just because something is repeated on television, it doesn't mean its true. This goes for both sides.
Hmm. I wonder...did you ask anyone that lives anywhere outside the US? Or anyone whose not originally American? Ask any sane person in the Middle East, they'll tell you that America needs to be stopped. Go to Britain, Europe, China, Russia, Asia...you'll find very few people that tell you America are 'warriors for good'.
No, we just think that a large number of you are arrogant toss pots, especially your President. (Then again, according to a survey done by the Times, many Americans think we are British are left-wing, war-dodging toffs). I actually like quite a lot of you guys and I'm sure that a large number of you are American.
Why is it true? Because you say it is? CNN communist? That's like Hitler was an angel sent by God to protect humanity.
Don't bother wastying your energy. I've already provided evidence to show that the media wasn't liberally biased, by showing how biased towards Bush the media was during the 2000 elections.
And yes, Gore 'invented' the internet. He sat in is comfy chair one day and just came up with it. The people at DARPA will eat your head off if you say that to their faces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET
http://en.wikipedia....of_the_Internet
Gore actually said he founded the Internet, because he was the one who set aside the funds to get it developed into the Internet. Usually people who pay for projects say they founded things, because they provided the foundations for things.
Actually, there are actually sources out there that give credit of the invention of the Internet to CERN in Geneva. (even though they only created the URL and HTML).
Interestingly, history is not absolute proof.
Apparently, after the death of King John in England, there was another King which was not given much mention in the list of Kings. He was King Louis and ruled for only a year afterwards, before the Catholic Church helped a coup against him. Yet nearly all evidence of his existence was conveniently lost.
Everything depends on your viewpoint, so you must listen to all arguments and not just one sides. I listen to the right-wing's arguments and then I see quite a lot of them are lies.
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Posted 27 September 2004 - 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Wolf_ODonnell@Sep 27 2004, 06:25 PM
Actually, there are actually sources out there that give credit of the invention of the Internet to CERN in Geneva. (even though they only created the URL and HTML).
Interestingly, history is not absolute proof.
It depends on what history your talking about. This is quite recent. There's a shitload of documents and papers published from that period. So that stuff is absolute proof =P
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My God...I never knew Mariotail was this retarded
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