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#1 Zythe

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 10:37 AM

Link 1st

Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask

Link 2nd

The Wind Waker
Tetra's Trackers

Link 3rd

Oracle of Ages
Oracle of Seasons

Link 4th

A Link to the Past
Link's Awakening

Link 5th

Legend of Zelda
Adventure of Link


Where do The Minish Cap, Four Swords GBA and Four Swords Adventures fit in though?


#2 Tri-Enforcer

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 11:56 AM

So at what point does Ganon get resealed in the Sacred Realm, setting the stage for LTTP? Don't say Oracles...Ganon is dead...they were trying to revive him form the dead...not unseal him...that plot failed so he's dead. That would mean some how, at a later time, he is reborn or revived...and later he is set back in the Sacred Realm...but all this will have to (going by your theory) be explained somewhere in between Oracles and LTTP? So, I'm asking you, Zythe, how does Ganon end back up in the Sacred Realm prior to LTTP?

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 02:25 PM

Zythe, how does TWW flow into Oracles? How does Oracles flow into ALttP? How does ALttP flow into LoZ? None of that fits together, unless you're willing to elaborate.

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 07:04 PM

There's not any evidence suggesting that Ganon was sealed in TWW, nor there is evidnece suggesting that he was killed, but it seems like he was killed, he didn't have the Triforce of Power and a sword was stumbled in his head. I think your theory could make sense.

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 08:47 PM

But the Triforce? You have to assume that the Triforce not only stay reunited, but somehow was brought to the new Hyrule and placed within the new Hyrule Castle. Which is a bit hard to swallow. Not to mention the ALttP-LoZ connection is also in question, especially if you don't have Oracles as an explanation for Ganon being revived in LoZ.

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Posted 23 September 2004 - 09:10 AM

According to this timeline...I'd still like to know how Ganon ended up back in the Sacred Realm...at the start of LTTP, in this timeline, Ganon hasn't been sealed in the Sacred Realm since OOT, all the other times he's been killed, stopped from being revived, or sealed in something else. Unless you wanna say that's where u go when you die...in the world of Zelda? But I think that's highly unlikely.

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Posted 23 September 2004 - 02:44 PM

I don't see how that works at all either.

How does that happen?

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Posted 23 September 2004 - 09:46 PM

Originally posted by Hero of Winds@Sep 22 2004, 08:47 PM
But the Triforce? You have to assume that the Triforce not only stay reunited, but somehow was brought to the new Hyrule and placed within the new Hyrule Castle. Which is a bit hard to swallow. Not to mention the ALttP-LoZ connection is also in question, especially if you don't have Oracles as an explanation for Ganon being revived in LoZ.

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Well, I don't think the Oracle games help a lot with the connection between ALttP and LoZ, since we see Ganon die at the end of the Oracle games, unless you want to believe his spirit escaped as Mike Peters/Luigi 64 does. Instead of this, I suggest that Ganon was revived by other means, because we have seen that probably there are more than two ways to do it.

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#9 Hero of Winds

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 06:01 AM

Well, do we really see him die? There is all those little explosions around him, but nobody actually acts like he's dead like in LoZ or ALttP.

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 06:57 AM

Originally posted by Hero of Winds@Sep 24 2004, 08:01 AM
Well, do we really see him die? There is all those little explosions around him, but nobody actually acts like he's dead like in LoZ or ALttP.

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Those explosions are the same that happen to every other boss, aren't them? Besides, he never was fully ressurected, he was just a mindless monster, and I remember Zelda saying that Ganon was destroyed.

It just doesn't work. There's as much evidence for Ganon being transported to the Sacred Realm by that stone encasing in the end of WW, as there is for Ganon surviving in Oracles. None.

#11 Zythe

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 07:31 AM

I was counting on Oracles having a FS game that miraculously fills the O-LTTP gap. After TWW, Link and Tetra find a new Hyrule just north of regular Hyrule. The Broken Noble sword of O is the MS of TWW, out of Ganon's head. This New Hyrule is the Hyrule of ALTTP and FSGBA.

Specifically, Ganon's oracle survival is odd - but Oracles must come before LTTP unless you're willing to deisregard them.

I'm willing to accept alterations and suggestions.

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 09:38 AM

i personally believe that LA would happen a right after TWW... think about it? it explains why link was sailing in the first place... he is young in that one... and other funs tuff

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 02:16 PM

I personally think the games were done in such a way you can place them however makes sense to you within reason.

#14 Hero of Winds

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 02:27 PM

Originally posted by Zythe
I was counting on Oracles having a FS game that miraculously fills the O-LTTP gap. After TWW, Link and Tetra find a new Hyrule just north of regular Hyrule. The Broken Noble sword of O is the MS of TWW, out of Ganon's head. This New Hyrule is the Hyrule of ALTTP and FSGBA.

Specifically, Ganon's oracle survival is odd - but Oracles must come before LTTP unless you're willing to deisregard them.

I'm willing to accept alterations and suggestions.


It doesn't matter what you were hoping an FS game would act as. You can't use could'ves in place of what actually happened. So, without using what could've happen with Oracles and FS, could you explain how, right now, the order goes TWW-Oracles-ALttP-LoZ?

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Posted 25 September 2004 - 11:09 AM

Well, there was a theory, that as long as there are seven sages, when Ganon is killed he is sent to the Sacred Realm as per the curse of original Seven Sages in OoT.

So by that, revival could be a synonym for releasal.

Ganon
OOT-Sealed Away-MM-TWW-Killed Thus Spirit Sealed Away-Oracles-Killed Thus Seales Away-LTTP-Killed in Sacred Realm so sent to Hell-LOZ-Ganon's minions gets ToP, free him from Hell and give ToP to him-AOL-Try to free Ganon but fail-CDi Games and TV show if canon.

There it works.

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Posted 25 September 2004 - 11:58 AM

That's assuming that everytime Ganon dies, he gets sealed away. Which is fanfiction.

#17 Zythe

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Posted 25 September 2004 - 12:04 PM

It's not fanfiction, it's an interpretation.

#18 Hero of Winds

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Posted 25 September 2004 - 12:08 PM

There isn't anything to support that that theory though. Ergo, fanfiction.

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Posted 25 September 2004 - 12:36 PM

In micking voice: "Ergo Fanfiction".

Whatever, it was considered a plausible theory in the site's early years, around the time a month before you joined I think.

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Posted 25 September 2004 - 04:26 PM

If you don't have evidence to support it, it's fanfiction. 'Nuff said.

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Posted 26 September 2004 - 11:20 AM

"Hello, neo... I am the architect, I created the Matrix... and several popluar videogames, including QBert, and Dig Dug. I didn't create Frogger, but I... came up with a name for it. Can you believe they wanted to call it, "Highway crossing frog?" I mean, that's the lamest thing i've ever heard of..."

Okay, sorry, i had to do it.... :P

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Posted 27 September 2004 - 11:53 AM

i personally believe that LA would happen a right after TWW... think about it? it explains why link was sailing in the first place... he is young in that one... and other funs tuff


Except in LA he was alone. In TWW he travelled with the pirates.

Anyways, to me that timeline don't make much sense. First of all, Tetra's Trackers isn't even an official game. Furthermore, Ganon was DESTROYED at the end of ALttP and the Dark World turned back into the Golden Land.

In LoZ it was still possible to revive him. People say that it has to be last because they need Link's blood. Well, they could also use the blood of his son, his grandson or even his great grandson. But, I believe there are other ways (like the Evil Jar in the cartoons).

In the Oracles Link has the Triforce mark on the back of his left hand BEFORE he sees the Triforces (yes, he only sees them; he never touches them). There are also two castles that might be North Castle. The first is that ancient castle in the opening, that's in the middle of a lush forest. My theory is that when either Link's son or his grandson became King (of course Link marries Zelda) he touched the Triforce and it sepparated. He got either Wisdom or Courage (Courage is most likely) and the one who got Power started a rebellion against the Royal Family. It led Hyrule into a civil war. The King won the war, and gathered all the Triforces in a secret chamber (it's just a theory tat it was a secret chamber, but I do believe that he wouldn't place them a place where everyone can get them). He later left North Castle and during the long years before OoS/OoA the lake dried out and the Ruto Forest expended drastically, until North Castle was surrounded by trees in many miles at each side.

The other theory is that the castle where Zelda is at the end of the final credits is North Castle. Ever noticed that range of mountains in the background? That might be Ruto Mountains.

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Where do The Minish Cap, Four Swords GBA and Four Swords Adventures fit in though?


I don't know about TMC, but in FSA a Deku Scrub says that Lord Ganon brought life to the Deku Scrubs (and that was recently), so it's obvious that it takes place before OoT. And because the intro states that it's a sequel to FS, FS also takes place before OoT. There might be an even earlier Link, because I have a theory that FS for the Nintendo DS is about the ancient hero mentioned in FS. I could be wrong, though.

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Posted 27 September 2004 - 04:26 PM

TMC goes after MM with the same Link

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Posted 27 September 2004 - 09:00 PM

^We know next to nothing about TMC, but according to Zethar, Ganondorf makes an appearance. Thus, your theory is incorrect.

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 12:07 PM

I don't know about TMC, but in FSA a Deku Scrub says that Lord Ganon brought life to the Deku Scrubs (and that was recently), so it's obvious that it takes place before OoT. And because the intro states that it's a sequel to FS, FS also takes place before OoT. There might be an even earlier Link, because I have a theory that FS for the Nintendo DS is about the ancient hero mentioned in FS. I could be wrong, though.


This is very interesting, please go into detail seeing as I was planning to do a Kokiri/Skull Kid/Korok/Deku Scrub analasys.

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 03:39 PM

So, Zythe... are you going to actually back up your theory with evidence now?

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 06:55 PM

^We know next to nothing about TMC, but according to Zethar, Ganondorf makes an appearance. Thus, your theory is incorrect.


Zethar said that?! :) Maybe, it'll finally fill in the gap between FS+ and OOT!




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