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[Veteran]

I've heard that Bane's voice differs in comprehension depending on the audio quality of the cinema. I had the same experience as Rova but the cinema wasn't that great.

[Twinrova]

Yeah, that could be it. The only movie theater we have access to here is some small shitty one. xD But their prices are great!!


[Edit] And just to clarify, I loved the way Bane's voiced sounded, I just couldn't understand him half the time. D:

Edited by Twinrova, 30 July 2012 - 07:21 AM.

[Sir Deimos]

I actually completely agree with Steel. I had no problems understanding him at all.

[Selena]

It's not an audio comprehension competition. XD

I'm sure cinema speakers are a factor.

I understood him, but there were maybe one or two lines where I had to reverse-engineer the words.

[Crimson Lego]

The only parts I had trouble understanding him, if I remember correctly, was in the Pit and maybe when he was first fighting Batman. Other than that, Tom Hardy did a great job.

[Chukchi Husky]

I didn't have a problem with understanding the voice. If anything, the problem I had was the effect put on the voice that tried to make it clearer by making it much louder than everyone else. All through the film I was trying to figure out who Bane sounds like. I don't know anything about the actor, but his accent reminds me of someone and I can't figure out who.

Before I went to the cinema, I was told two things about the film.

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First, the film is really cheesy because Catwoman says a lot of bad one liners.

Second, it's based on Batman: Year One, apparently because Catwoman mentions that she did dark things in her past, and because she lives in an apartment.

Edited by Chukchi Husky, 30 July 2012 - 03:05 PM.

[Sir Deimos]

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Catwoman may have been based on the Catwoman in Year One, but just her. Everyone else is already established, more or less. The film relies more on The Dark Knight Returns as source material.

[Reflectionist]

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The only parallel I saw with her character in Year One was the inclusion of Holly Robinson, who is never named in the film, but listed as someone else. It's Holly.

[J-Roc]

I'll be honest, I just saw it yesterday and I wasn't thrilled by it. The pacing was slow, Bane sounded like Sean Connery

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Including Taila at the end was a weak twist and any potential spin offs of this movie will be awful, mark my words.

[Twinrova]

Bane sounded like Sean Connery

Darth Connery!

[Crimson Lego]

I'll be honest, I just saw it yesterday and I wasn't thrilled by it. The pacing was slow, Bane sounded like Sean Connery

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Including Taila at the end was a weak twist and any potential spin offs of this movie will be awful, mark my words.

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I agree with the potential Robin spin-offs; it would just seem lame compared to TDK. But I thought the Talia al Ghul was pretty good.

Might see this again next Saturday with the soccer team after our last game.

[Sir Deimos]

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Well it's for the best we aren't getting any spinoffs. Next is the Batman reboot for the JLA tie in.

I guess I didn't HAVE to spoiler tag that, but just in case.

[J-Roc]

The only thing I really found cool was

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how Batman got his back broken and then healed it by getting strung up for months, not everything in this movie was expected but most of it was. /notagoodthing

[Veteran]

Oh dear lord I hope they don't do a reboot for a JLA movie. What's the need? Just have him there. It's Batman. Everyone knows who Batman is.

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Have him played by Cobra Commander Robin and everyone's happy.

[SteveT]

Of course they'll do a reboot.

Every time I hear about a superhero reboot, all I can picture is an 90 year old man at a meeting saying, "Batman? What's a Batman? Who is he and how'd he get his powers? You should make a movie about THAT! No one knows who this guy is, for cripesakes."

Edited by SteveT, 12 August 2012 - 04:53 PM.

[Sir Deimos]

The reboot is already in production. It isn't speculation.

[Selena]

And when exactly is Wonder Woman going to get out of developmental hell? 2052? Great member of the Justice League, not too interesting on her own. Primarily because of uninteresting villains. I haven't even heard of an Aquaman or Flash movie in the works to fill out the other slots, and they have the same problems.

Just screw it and make the Justice League without dealing in all this backstory nonsense. Everyone knows! All this gimmicky crap is obnoxious.

Bonus points for Wonder Twins, though.




edit: I see a listing for Justice League and Wonder Woman on IMDB, but nothing about a Batman reboot. Where is it confirmed that they're redoing Batman?

[Sir Deimos]

I forget where I read it actually. :<

[J-Roc]

I don't want to see a Wonderwoman movie it cannot be done the actress does not yet exist.

[TheAvengerLever]

Yeah, I wish they would just skip to the JLA movie. I just wish their reasoning wasn't anything having to do with anything Marvel is doing with their movies.

[Twinrova]

I don't want to see a Wonderwoman movie it cannot be done the actress does not yet exist.

You sure?

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[TheAvengerLever]

That's not Wonder Woman, that's Wonder-Bra Woman.


Also, the internet always claims that Megan Fox should play every female comic book character role. So...in b4 that?

[Veteran]

Really they shouldn't have made a Green Lantern movie, or they should've done something to make it stand out like have a version of Oracle in it. As it stands it's just a waste of a DC character within the context of a JLA build. Much like the Daredevil movie for Marvel.

Man of Steel is a deserved reboot, even though like Spider-Man I think it's too soon to restart, that's outweighed by how god damn awful Returns was. Compounded by how Bryan Singer left X-Men 3 to film it. Two wasted movies.

I'd have had Christian Bale pop up at the end of Man of Steel a la Nick Fury.

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Thanks, Dark Knight Rises, for ruining that fantasy! XD

Then I guess you need one more before a JLA movie (it could've been Green Lantern) but I don't know what would work. Personally I would save Wonder Woman as the stand-out performer in the JLA movie so she can then have her own series (much like the rumoured Black Widow movie).

I can't see Flash working in his own movie. I put him on par with Hulk. Not great when he's on his own. So that leaves, what, Hawkman? Aquaman? Martian Manhunter? Green Arrow?

When you look at it like that, I have to reiterate what a complete waste the Green Lantern one was.

[Sir Deimos]

Martian Manhunter, if done well, could be awesome.

[SteveT]

I'd have had Christian Bale pop up at the end of Man of Steel a la Nick Fury.

But if Batman and Superman are having a conversation, who vanishes first? You can't have them in a short scene together without alienating one fanbase or the other.

The main problem with the non-Nolan DC movies, is that they're consistently written and produced by people who don't

a) know about
b) give a crap about

the comics. The writers have a high level understanding of who the characters are and their powers, and then just try to form a cliche action movie around them.

As to other DC movies:

1. Superman Returns wasn't a bad movie at all. It's just that the conflict was mostly internal, which wasn't what the majority of fans were after. Personally, I thought it was a rare instance of Superman getting character development. That said, Superman films need to stop refusing to use supervillians (and comic relief Lex Luthor doesn't count) who can actually fight Superman. Unfortunately, as my mother demonstrates any time she walks into the room during a Bruce Timm production, the general public has the mentality that "No one can beat up Superman." So even if you give him a worthwhile villain who presents a physical challenge, people who don't read comics will reject the very notion. Superman Returns was trying to show a more subtle conflict without a real physical threat.

2. Green Lantern was a waste. The Green Lantern series has a great mythos, but none of the writers seemed to know that. It felt like someone handed the writers a Power Point presentation on what plot elements they want in the film, and didn't care how or if they fit together. It turned into a bombastic, chaotic, incoherent mess. Unfortunately, there's already been talk of trying again. With the same writers.

3) Flash could work. He has a very unique relationship with his villians, and if they could capitalize on that, it'd be a fun movie.

[Selena]

Superman would be more interesting (to me) if they did both/either:

1) Take him away from his near-divine invincible status and bring him back down to the "classic" Superman, who just had enhanced strength and abilities rather than godlike power. Jumping incredibly high rather than flying. Intense strength, but not unlimited strength. Rapid speed, but not so fast that he can make the goddamn Earth spin backwards in time. Godmode doesn't make for an interesting story or provide the audience with any hint of genuine struggle. Any setbacks he'd face would inevitably be plot devices. That's probably the biggest drawback for the modern version of Superman.

2) Bring back General Zod and his cronies. Effectively make a non-camp version of Superman II. Because that concept has tons of potential if you stop trying to make it corny. Two men from the same ruined civilization with roughly equal power, but one uses it for evil and one uses it for good. Luthor can be the subtle manipulator grabbing power while they duke it out.



Wonder Woman has always been interesting, but her problem lies with her exclusive villains, since the general public can think of approximately none of them offhand. Because she only gets significant screen time as part of the Justice League. The only ones I can think of are the Nazi chick, the loon who dresses up as a Cheetah, and Ares the motherfuckin' god of war.

They used Ares for the animated movie, but, realistically, a general audience will automatically think of a very different franchise if the movie features a grumpy dark-haired Greek warrior woman fighting Ares. "What the hell? This is just Xena wearing 'Murica colors!" But, if they're trying to copy Marvel as close as possible, I'm sure Wonder Woman and all her Greek gods will serve as the counterweight to Marvel's Thor and the Aesir. So they might go that route.

Otherwise, Cheetah's worthy of laughter, so they'd be forced to set it during World War II and have Wonder Woman fighting the Nazi chick. Who wasn't a bad character, if I remember right, but then you start getting Captain America parallels. I guess it'd be funny to have her poke fun at him, though.


Green Lantern was silly and nobody has ever liked Aquaman and his special bond with marine life. The Flash might be interesting if done properly, but that's a big if. You're not going to see a Justice League movie any time soon unless they just skip straight to the main ensemble and do solo movies after the fact.

[Sir Deimos]

Lena... Zod is rumored to be the villain in Man of Steel. :3

[Selena]

Well they'd better not fuck it up.

[Khallos]

In terms of casting of Wonder Woman the possibility of Christina Hendricks starring I feel should be pursued.

MoS looks promising but natural bias against Costner does make me have some worries (Superman has never been my favourite character and he's been unfavourably adapted continously).

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Dark Knight Rises was also very good in my opinion - wish he actually died but all things considered that was a very smooth wrap up (though Talia dying when her van crashes while buckled in the front seat as opposed a wounded Gordon who was bouncing around in a truck with a reactor. He's a badass, but really?)

[Selena]

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Didn't they have to deal with Marion's pregnancy while filming? She might not have been able to do any strenuous activity at that point.